5167a-001

[brkn]

Sorry if this is silly but I couldn't find any recent posts about this. Is there any chance of being allocated this model from a boutique with zero purchase history? Willing wait until mid 2024 - early 2025.

[w220]

The chances are slim, but you have nothing to lose by trying.

[brkn]

Originally Posted by w220

The chances are slim, but you have nothing to lose by trying.

I do want to try but first I want to learn the opinions and experiences of people around here to get a sense of how ridiculous my request would be...

[yoast]

nope

[JR16]

Pretty unlikely IMO


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[epicurus]

pretty ridiculous honestly

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by epicurus

pretty ridiculous honestly

The whole thing is ridiculous now.

If you have no purchase history, your only likely chance is to find an AD willing to bundle with a Complication or something (maybe one of the less popular Calatravas).

If you "get on a list" and they tell you it'll be 2025, it's more likely never. The list is fungible. And many just don't want to tell you "No" since it's a bad experience, and maybe if they tell you No, you'll write them off and won't consider buying anything else from them. But, if they keep you on a long, long leash, maybe something else will fancy you.

[brkn]

Originally Posted by epicurus

pretty ridiculous honestly

the truth hurts

guess I'll just inquire for a 15500st

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by brkn

the truth hurts

guess I'll just inquire for a 15500st

Not much better, honestly. Though a tiny bit...

[brkn]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Not much better, honestly. Though a tiny bit...

which one would you go for if both had the same msrp and grey market price? and why?

[IBDOC]

Originally Posted by brkn

Sorry if this is silly but I couldn't find any recent posts about this. Is there any chance of being allocated this model from a boutique with zero purchase history? Willing wait until mid 2024 - early 2025.

Only chance of you getting it it 2024-2025 is if the market price crashes to below retail. Ask yourself if you would still want to buy it for retail by then.

[brkn]

Originally Posted by IBDOC

Only chance of you getting it it 2024-2025 is if the market price crashes to below retail. Ask yourself if you would still want to buy it for retail by then.

for sure. if the msrp is still around what it is now.

[yoast]

Originally Posted by brkn

the truth hurts

guess I'll just inquire for a 15500st

Another nope

[Benzsiam]

You have a better chance to win the jackpot lotto.

[scurfa]

Even if you have a good purchase history you will never get one because there is always someone bigger.


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[Rushne]

Originally Posted by brkn

the truth hurts

guess I'll just inquire for a 15500st

As long as you love the 15500st as well I guess.

I just see the 5167 on bracelet and 15500st as completely different watches.
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The 15500 wears much much bigger and it can't really be used when swimming as it is only 50m WR.

So maybe you are just after a higher end steel sports watch than a 5167?

But if you are really after a 5167, then just trying to get a consolation prize of 15500, wont really scratch the same itch.

The chances unfortunately of getting one from an AD now days is so slim, which is a real shame,

However, try your luck and perhaps with saying that you are willing to wait 3 to 4 years might help. They will also want you to buy some other items during the wait though I guess.

[m3tek44]

Honestly don’t waste your time rather go with other brand/models (seiko, omega, etc) or pay the premium with grey. Life is too short.

[Mini2]

Originally Posted by brkn

Sorry if this is silly but I couldn't find any recent posts about this. Is there any chance of being allocated this model from a boutique with zero purchase history? Willing wait until mid 2024 - early 2025.

Asking the wrong people.
Touch base with an AD and see what they say.

[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by brkn

Is there any chance of being allocated this model from a boutique with zero purchase history?

Sure, it's possible.

[jon_jon]

Originally Posted by brkn

Sorry if this is silly but I couldn't find any recent posts about this. Is there any chance of being allocated this model from a boutique with zero purchase history? Willing wait until mid 2024 - early 2025.

It seems we get a post like this every week. So the same answers follow the same question. If you really want one, just spend a little more to buy it on the secondary market. Otherwise if you can find an AD that will put your name on a wait list, go for it. You can hope they have a real wait list and not a fake list where they will never call you. Let's suppose they have 100 people on the wait list and they receive 3-4 a year. You can do the math. Most of the people on the list will be flippers wanting to make a quick buck, so you will have a lot of competition.

Best of luck! It is a great watch

[uniqueMR]

Best of luck

[llngoc]

Originally Posted by brkn

Sorry if this is silly but I couldn't find any recent posts about this. Is there any chance of being allocated this model from a boutique with zero purchase history? Willing wait until mid 2024 - early 2025.

If you are willing to start spending large sum of money on other non-sports Patek models. It is possible. Have an open discussion with the AD and see if this route will work. Even with purchases, most likely there will still be a wait since everyone on their list is most likely someone who’s been making large purchases already.

And it is possible that some smaller AD at a less competitive market may indeed put you down on a real waitlist but you will need to search around. At the current market condition, it will to hard to find one.

[np2016]

1 in a million so you got a chance

[brkn]

Originally Posted by yoast

Another nope

??????? don't say that's not possible either now cos I'm pretty sure a non blue dial is

[GreenLantern]

These days, unless you're a Grey Market dealer, it's rarely possible to get anything you want.

The watch industry seems to exist to fuel the GM dealers, and VVIPs.

(And yes, some of us here are VIPs, but not necessarily VVIPs - I'm not Mark Wahlberg, and we don't necessarily think this is healthy.)

[jrs146]

Sad but true. Never going to happen. Honestly it’s better to not even waste the effort and disappointment.


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[m3tek44]

Originally Posted by jrs146

sad but true. Never going to happen. Honestly it’s better to not even waste the effort and disappointment.


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+1

[m3tek44]

Life is too short so pay premium with grey and enjoy it.

[brkn]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

These days, unless you're a Grey Market dealer, it's rarely possible to get anything you want.

The watch industry seems to exist to fuel the GM dealers, and VVIPs.

(And yes, some of us here are VIPs, but not necessarily VVIPs - I'm not Mark Wahlberg, and we don't necessarily think this is healthy.)

are you saying AD's are willingly and knowingly selling to gm dealers at msrp?

[HMHM]

Originally Posted by brkn

are you saying AD's are willingly and knowingly selling to gm dealers at msrp?

Lolololol. You gotta be kidding right? The AD only cares about profit.

What GreenLantern meant was that GM dealers bundle the hell out of the AD’s stock to get the Daytonas, Nautilus, Aquanauts etc

The ADs are in cahoots with the GM. That is a fact. They help move all the slow moving stocks like the Pearl Master and the diamond studded Datejust. What is also prevalent is that certain high ranking management team of ADs receive kickbacks from owners of GM dealership to allocate them the in demand watches.