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Old 13 May 2019, 09:39 PM   #1
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Doubts with Royal Oak

I'm looking at a Royal Oak. My preferences are the 15300 of 39mm and the 15450 of 37mm, for my little wrist.

I live on the coast and go a lot to the beach and pool.

Is it safe to bathe with the watch? Is the crown screwed on?
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Old 13 May 2019, 09:47 PM   #2
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I'm looking at a Royal Oak. My preferences are the 15300 of 39mm and the 15450 of 37mm, for my little wrist.



I live on the coast and go a lot to the beach and pool.



Is it safe to bathe with the watch? Is the crown screwed on?


Yes you can swim with it.


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Old 13 May 2019, 09:59 PM   #3
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its only specified as 50m water resistence, and i dont recommend people go swimming with it. 50m water resistence just mean you can clean the watch under running tap water.
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Old 13 May 2019, 10:01 PM   #4
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I specially asked AP in London about this last year as I shared your view but AP insisted that it was safe to swim with it on.


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Old 13 May 2019, 10:23 PM   #5
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Does it have a screwed crown?
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Old 13 May 2019, 10:24 PM   #6
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It’s fine to swim with. I think sand though would be rough on all the polished surfaces. It’s bound to show swirls from the sand.


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Old 13 May 2019, 10:28 PM   #7
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I specially asked AP in London about this last year as I shared your view but AP insisted that it was safe to swim with it on.


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I specifically asked at the nyc boutique, I was told to avoid showering.


Simply put, if I am going swimming, my watch needs a minimum of 100m WR.


Not sure if there is a screw down crown on these models but I would guess no.
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Old 13 May 2019, 10:34 PM   #8
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I'm looking at a Royal Oak. My preferences are the 15300 of 39mm and the 15450 of 37mm, for my little wrist.

I live on the coast and go a lot to the beach and pool.

Is it safe to bathe with the watch? Is the crown screwed on?
Yes there is a screw down crown but the Royal Oak aren't exactly the most robust of sports watches. At the very least, you might risk scratching the finely polished /brushed surfaces on the bracelet if you take it for a swim.
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Old 13 May 2019, 10:36 PM   #9
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I specifically asked at the nyc boutique, I was told to avoid showering.





Simply put, if I am going swimming, my watch needs a minimum of 100m WR.





Not sure if there is a screw down crown on these models but I would guess no.


Well this was my view as well and I wouldn’t normally get a watch like this wet and I was shocked when I was told that it’s fine to swim with it on.


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Old 13 May 2019, 10:52 PM   #10
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Do you have or do you not have the crown curled up?

Do all Royal Oak's have a screw-down crown or just a few?
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Old 13 May 2019, 11:16 PM   #11
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Try some of the older 36mm Royal Oaks as well if you have a smaller wrist - you can still get some decent deals on them
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Old 13 May 2019, 11:58 PM   #12
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It has a screw down crown and a 50m water resistance. Stop overthinking it. You can swim/shower etc with it without issues.

Scratches are a different story.
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Old 14 May 2019, 12:26 AM   #13
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It has a screw down crown and a 50m water resistance. Stop overthinking it. You can swim/shower etc with it without issues.

Scratches are a different story.
but my AP boutique in hk told me not to swim with the royal oak, go for the roo instead.
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Old 14 May 2019, 12:29 AM   #14
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Lets not give too much credit to these boutique workers. I sometimes feel we on this forum know more about this stuff than they do. Call Clearwater and speak to someone in service to get answer.
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Old 14 May 2019, 12:39 AM   #15
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its only specified as 50m water resistence, and i dont recommend people go swimming with it. 50m water resistence just mean you can clean the watch under running tap water.
Nonsense!
50m is plenty more WR than someone needs to splash about in the sea and bob along on the surface.
Hell, if you’re the michievious sort, you could even go a metre or two under, just so you could pull your friend’s trunks down... and still not be the least bit concerned about how wet the watch was.

I’ll bet you’re the type that puts your watch in a waterproof container, high up on the cupboard, before you start washing the dishes, aren’t you?
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Old 14 May 2019, 12:41 AM   #16
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I have swam with my 15400 many times in the pool, I would reluctantly go in the sea with it however as people mentioned about the sand, and definitely not diving even a few metres. That's what Rolex's are for...
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Old 14 May 2019, 12:43 AM   #17
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I was told that you can only walk in the rain with it, that's about the maximum exposure to water the watch can handle

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Old 14 May 2019, 12:49 AM   #18
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Nonsense!
50m is plenty more WR than someone needs to splash about in the sea and bob along on the surface.
Hell, if you’re the michievious sort, you could even go a metre or two under, just so you could pull your friend’s trunks down... and still not be the least bit concerned about how wet the watch was.

I’ll bet you’re the type that puts your watch in a waterproof container, high up on the cupboard, before you start washing the dishes, aren’t you?
the specified 50m water resistance is where you put the watch at a depth of 50m and keep stationary there. but when you move you wrist under water or press the watch into water very hard, the pressure exerted on the watch is quite different. you should also take this into consideration.
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Old 14 May 2019, 12:50 AM   #19
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but my AP boutique in hk told me not to swim with the royal oak, go for the roo instead.
And you believed them?
Jesus wept... they sure saw you coming!

AD: “Lovely watch you’re wearing sir.”
You: “Thank you. It’s WR to 50m, so I can even use it in the pool/sea.”
AD: (Spotting sales opportunity) “Oh no sir, you mustn’t do that. If you wish to wear a Royal Oak in water, you’ll have to spend at least $20K on an Offshore version to do that!”
You: “Oh... okay then, I’ll have that one there.”
AD: “Excellent choice, sir. Shall I box it or would you like to wear it now. Looks like it’s going to start raining soon...”
You: “Yes, I’ll wear it. Wouldn’t want to risk getting my RO wet! BTW, you don’t keep any waterproof containers, do you? Would come in handy when I’m doing the dishes.”
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Old 14 May 2019, 12:56 AM   #20
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And you believed them?
Jesus wept... they sure saw you coming!

AD: “Lovely watch you’re wearing sir.”
You: “Thank you. It’s WR to 50m, so I can even use it in the pool/sea.”
AD: (Spotting sales opportunity) “Oh no sir, you mustn’t do that. If you wish to wear a Royal Oak in water, you’ll have to spend at least $20K on an Offshore version to do that!”
You: “Oh... okay then, I’ll have that one there.”
AD: “Excellent choice, sir. Shall I box it or would you like to wear it now. Looks like it’s going to start raining soon...”
You: “Yes, I’ll wear it. Wouldn’t want to risk getting my RO wet! BTW, you don’t keep any waterproof containers, do you? Would come in handy when I’m doing the dishes.”
actually they told me that when they had just put me into a waitlist for the ROC white dial. and i am still waiting for my first AP now.
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Old 14 May 2019, 01:01 AM   #21
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the specified 50m water resistance is where you put the watch at a depth of 50m and keep stationary there. but when you move you wrist under water or press the watch into water very hard, the pressure exerted on the watch is quite different. you have also take this into consideration.
Who told you that? It’s a complete fallacy.
Hydrostatic pressure doesn’t change whether you’re sitting perfectly still on the sandy bottom or doing the breast stroke/front crawl/thrashing about in the jaws of a Great White.

Think about it logically... a submersible capable of going down to 1000+m, doesn’t stay static in one spot, it moves around.
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Old 14 May 2019, 02:37 AM   #22
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Does it have a screwed crown?
The 15300 does have a screw down crown
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Old 14 May 2019, 02:48 AM   #23
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Who told you that? It’s a complete fallacy.
Hydrostatic pressure doesn’t change whether you’re sitting perfectly still on the sandy bottom or doing the breast stroke/front crawl/thrashing about in the jaws of a Great White.

Think about it logically... a submersible capable of going down to 1000+m, doesn’t stay static in one spot, it moves around.
It’s a bit of both, hydrostatic pressure isn’t the only ‘pressure force ’ exerted on a watch underwater. A watch stationary at say 50m underwater and one accelerating through it experience significantly different forces (and thus pressures) even if the hydrostatic component of that pressure is technically the same.
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Old 14 May 2019, 02:50 AM   #24
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Who told you that? It’s a complete fallacy.
Hydrostatic pressure doesn’t change whether you’re sitting perfectly still on the sandy bottom or doing the breast stroke/front crawl/thrashing about in the jaws of a Great White.

Think about it logically... a submersible capable of going down to 1000+m, doesn’t stay static in one spot, it moves around.
Actually it varies, but slightly. I believe around +-3% for normal human motion. which means at surface level down unless you are aquaman swimming at speeds of 200mph nothing really is going to happen....
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Old 14 May 2019, 03:41 AM   #25
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Water resistance seem to vary a lot between manufacturers. For instance Rolex tests all their 100m resistant Oyster watches in pressurized water tanks down to 110m and the divers down to +25% of their rated pressure. So for instance I would with confidence do recreational scuba diving in any Rolex watch, not just the divers.

When it comes to the Royal Oak the 15300, 15400, 15450, 15500 have screw-down crown and should be swimmable. The 15202 Jumbo on the other hand does not have a screw down crown even though it's also rated to 50M. According to Tim Mosso of the watchbox he has stated he would swim with the first 4 models I listed but not with the 15202. So take that as a data point.

Probably best to ask the AP service center what they recommend and make sure to check the seals periodically. Salespeople often talk with confidence about things they know nothing about so take what they say with a grain of salt.
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Old 14 May 2019, 03:51 AM   #26
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the specified 50m water resistance is where you put the watch at a depth of 50m and keep stationary there. but when you move you wrist under water or press the watch into water very hard, the pressure exerted on the watch is quite different. you should also take this into consideration.
I'm guessing you're not a fan of physics... At a 50m depth you have 72.85 psi of pressure, at 5m you have 7.28 psi, are you suggesting that you can move your wrist fast enough to increase pressure ten fold? Because I can assure you that unless you're diving off a skyscraper you're not going to pull that off.
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Old 14 May 2019, 04:15 AM   #27
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Call me reckless but i treat my 15400 as the luxury sport watch its advertised.
I have swam in the ocean, dived into pools, soaked it in jacuzzis...and taken it into saunas. No issues what so ever after +3 years of ownership.
True story related to the subject. Two years back I went for a pressure test at my local AD and they accidentally pressure tested it for 10 bars. It passed with very low deformation, so it’s actually more than good for 100m.
With that said, I have it insured if it would fail on me.
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Old 14 May 2019, 04:55 AM   #28
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I'm looking at a Royal Oak. My preferences are the 15300 of 39mm and the 15450 of 37mm, for my little wrist.



I live on the coast and go a lot to the beach and pool.



Is it safe to bathe with the watch? Is the crown screwed on?


It’s safe
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I'm looking at a Royal Oak. My preferences are the 15300 of 39mm and the 15450 of 37mm, for my little wrist.



I live on the coast and go a lot to the beach and pool.



Is it safe to bathe with the watch? Is the crown screwed on?


It’s safe
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Old 14 May 2019, 05:01 AM   #30
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but my AP boutique in hk told me not to swim with the royal oak, go for the roo instead.


I never take my watch off for swimming, sauna or jazzuki.


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