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Old 2 December 2020, 07:37 AM   #1
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Ten day time test with my 126610

With all the scary stories about the new 3235 movement, I thought I would do a day by day time test with my new sub. I let it go one week, then 10 days. I checked it every night and wear the watch pretty much 24-7.

It CONSISTENTLY came up at minus one second (-1sec) per day. I.e. in 10 days it is 10 seconds slow. I would expect after 30 days it will be 30 seconds slow.

I don’t know how anyone else feels about those numbers, and the watch is new, but right now, I am pretty pleased, I can live with - 30 seconds every month, let’s hope it maintains that accuracy.
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Old 2 December 2020, 08:01 AM   #2
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Number is fine but I would rather a watch be a few seconds fast vs slow...
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Old 2 December 2020, 08:39 AM   #3
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Old 2 December 2020, 09:09 AM   #4
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Poor functionality of the 3235 is exaggerated. Both my DJ41's have been consistent since Day one (1) Sure, there have been incidents of failure but considering the volume of watches produced, the 'lemons' that ended up in customers hands is pretty small. In light of the fact it's a totally re-designed movement, I'd say it's a success.


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Old 2 December 2020, 09:25 AM   #5
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I couldn't tolerate a slow watch but that's just me. Just kidding that accuracy is amazing.
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Old 2 December 2020, 09:31 AM   #6
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If you lay the watch dial up position at night when you are sleeping, I'll bet it will correct itself and even gain instead of lose a few seconds a day. Try it.
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Old 2 December 2020, 10:05 AM   #7
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I have the new LV

I too got -1 sec per day. Wearing most of the day and in the watch box face up while I slept. After 7 days I was -7 sec slow.

I reset the watch. This time I put the watch dial-side down in the watch box (bracelet side up). I got 0 seconds per day. :)

Will see longer term once watch settled in a bit but so far the watch is pretty accurate
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Old 2 December 2020, 10:25 AM   #8
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Poor functionality of the 3235 is exaggerated. Both my DJ41's have been consistent since Day one (1) Sure, there have been incidents of failure but considering the volume of watches produced, the 'lemons' that ended up in customers hands is pretty small. In light of the fact it's a totally re-designed movement, I'd say it's a success.


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An interesting perspective indeed and you seem to have deep insight.
Please tell. Out of all the 31xx movements that are out there, how many in comparison do we hear of with the same ongoing issue that plagues the 32xx movements where there is declining accuracy accompanying a little self destruction and repeat appearances at RSC?
For clarity you can feel free to limit your sample to only include the period starting from where both movement series were held to the same accuracy standard.
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Old 2 December 2020, 10:32 AM   #9
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I always ask my watchmaker to adjust my watches to -1.
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Old 2 December 2020, 12:01 PM   #10
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An interesting perspective indeed and you seem to have deep insight.
Please tell. Out of all the 31xx movements that are out there, how many in comparison do we hear of with the same ongoing issue that plagues the 32xx movements where there is declining accuracy accompanying a little self destruction and repeat appearances at RSC?
For clarity you can feel free to limit your sample to only include the period starting from where both movement series were held to the same accuracy standard.
I can read between the lines here....

All I'm saying is as owner or two, an avid reader of TRF and fair person, I'm just stating it's probably a non-issue and not worth worrying about.

I've always felt the 3235 got a bad rap because of some opinions posted by some watchmaker. Anything new will have growing pains, witness the date wheel flap a while ago.

Obviously, I wasn't around when the 'old faithful' 3135 was introduced. Neither was the internet which facilitates this type of info being shared, worldwide and at lightning speed. Perhaps, though highly unlikely, the 3135 had issues but that's probably impossible to chronicle or research with any degree of certain accuracy. Maybe the info can be found, but who cares decades later.



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Old 2 December 2020, 12:10 PM   #11
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Ten day time test with my 126610

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If you lay the watch dial up position at night when you are sleeping, I'll bet it will correct itself and even gain instead of lose a few seconds a day. Try it.

Try this, Paul. It matters. (As I’m sure you know, that’s why great timing machines time in multiple positions).

I’m fine with -1. But faster is better for me.

As a micro-chasm of Rolex ownership, our experiences may be reported differently and out of proportion with the satisfaction of the non-WIS public. I’m sure our group holds the highest expectations.

As much as I like to trade and as much as I love watches, I don’t time my watches, except during service or when I just took in a piece from a source who cannot tell me if it’s running COSC. If I buy it from a TS and they say it’s COSC, I don’t even bother timing it.

Congrats on the new Sub!
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Old 2 December 2020, 02:21 PM   #12
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I've always felt the 3235 got a bad rap because of some opinions posted by some watchmaker. Anything new will have growing pains, witness the date wheel flap a while ago.

Obviously, I wasn't around when the 'old faithful' 3135 was introduced. Neither was the internet which facilitates this type of info being shared, worldwide and at lightning speed. Perhaps, though highly unlikely, the 3135 had issues but that's probably impossible to chronicle or research with any degree of certain accuracy. Maybe the info can be found, but who cares decades later.
If I have to put my life on the one that will most likely be the most accurate ,will maintain accuracy for many years ,will be the least likely to sit for weeks at the RSC and will only need servicing after many years of service, it will be "old Faithful " 3135 .

I own several 3135 and 3235 movement Rolex.
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Old 2 December 2020, 02:26 PM   #13
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With all the scary stories about the new 3235 movement, I thought I would do a day by day time test with my new sub. I let it go one week, then 10 days. I checked it every night and wear the watch pretty much 24-7.

It CONSISTENTLY came up at minus one second (-1sec) per day. I.e. in 10 days it is 10 seconds slow. I would expect after 30 days it will be 30 seconds slow.

I don’t know how anyone else feels about those numbers, and the watch is new, but right now, I am pretty pleased, I can live with - 30 seconds every month, let’s hope it maintains that accuracy.

Paul thank you so much for your post.

Your post made me realize that I’ve finally reached watch enthusiast nirvana.

When I was new to watches I would check my watches accuracy all the time.

I also hated watches that didn’t hack.

When you said in your post that your watch is going to lose 30 seconds in one month I said “holy smokes! Damn that’s a lot.”

Then I realized that mine does about the same.

And my speedy probably worse.

And my Timex marlin will gain 30 seconds in like a week.

But I had forgotten all of that because somewhere along the way I became content with my watches for what they are.

Mechanical marvels that aren’t as accurate as a cheap quartz watches, but are infinitely cooler.

I made it to watch enthusiast nirvana!!!!


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Old 2 December 2020, 02:28 PM   #14
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Now to forget about watch accuracy again




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Old 2 December 2020, 02:28 PM   #15
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WOW that is very impressive sure says something for the 3235.
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Old 2 December 2020, 02:45 PM   #16
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Ten day time test with my 126610

I saw a Ferrari crash. Probably didn’t get past 90 mph. Get over the timing of it. If it’s over + 6 or -4 sec off a day your within COSC.

It’s amazing they can get these watches so close. Stop babying, stop paying attention to the seconds, and enjoy your watch. Time goes by quickly, and speeds up as life goes by. Don’t let an amazing watch drag you down.
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Old 2 December 2020, 03:42 PM   #17
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Paul thank you so much for your post.

Your post made me realize that I’ve finally reached watch enthusiast nirvana.

When I was new to watches I would check my watches accuracy all the time.

I also hated watches that didn’t hack.

When you said in your post that your watch is going to lose 30 seconds in one month I said “holy smokes! Damn that’s a lot.”

Then I realized that mine does about the same.

And my speedy probably worse.

And my Timex marlin will gain 30 seconds in like a week.

But I had forgotten all of that because somewhere along the way I became content with my watches for what they are.

Mechanical marvels that aren’t as accurate as a cheap quartz watches, but are infinitely cooler.

I made it to watch enthusiast nirvana!!!!


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Old 3 December 2020, 02:15 AM   #18
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I have been monitoring my 16622 since 20th November with Atomic Clock & Watch Accuracy: average +0.99 sec per day. I'd say it's good.
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Old 3 December 2020, 02:18 AM   #19
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Performing great Paul, that’s fantastic

Congratulations on the new Submariner date
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Ten day time test with my 126610

Had mine for six weeks. After playing around with which way to orient the watch at night, I’ve managed +14 seconds total in one month of daily wear and crown up on the night stand. Really pleased with this new Sub.

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Old 3 December 2020, 02:35 AM   #21
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I've noticed my DJ41 runs slower than my sub but haven't really tested it. leads me to ask, how does everyone do an actual test? Do you just set the time on your other rolexes and then set a timer on a phone?
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Old 3 December 2020, 04:26 AM   #22
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Here is just one of the many threads on the 3235 issue. https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...highlight=3235 Scroll down to response #55 from Bas for a great picture of the affected part. And for those who feel a few seconds lost is not a big deal, yes you are right. The bigger deal however is that lost seconds are just a symptom of the part damage being done. Sending your 32XX watch to RSC will only get you a temporary fix. It seems a redesign is needed.
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Old 3 December 2020, 06:25 AM   #23
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My new SD43 is keeping as near to perfect time as one could expect,timed to the Time Is app.
About 1 to 2 seconds fast over 7 days consistently since October.Worn 24/7, and always laid on bracelet face up when off for any reason.
By far the most accurate Rolex I have owned
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I've noticed my DJ41 runs slower than my sub but haven't really tested it. leads me to ask, how does everyone do an actual test? Do you just set the time on your other rolexes and then set a timer on a phone?
You just need a known accurate reference source for the time like your phone.
Simply note the time difference between your phone and the watch and check the difference 10 days later.
Or you may like to sync the time on your watch to the phone to make it easier to check the variation after 10 days.

Why 10 days you may ask?
10 is easier to divide into the recorded time variation to get a daily figure.
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My new SD43 is keeping as near to perfect time as one could expect,timed to the Time Is app.
About 1 to 2 seconds fast over 7 days consistently since October.Worn 24/7, and always laid on bracelet face up when off for any reason.
By far the most accurate Rolex I have owned
An excellent result
I hope it continues for you
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You just need a known accurate reference source for the time like your phone.
Simply note the time difference between your phone and the watch and check the difference 10 days later.
Or you may like to sync the time on your watch to the phone to make it easier to check the variation after 10 days.

Why 10 days you may ask?
10 is easier to divide into the recorded time variation to get a daily figure.
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Old 3 December 2020, 06:39 AM   #27
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My 126610LV has not lost or gained a single second since I bought it Nov 17th.

I’m impressed!
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My new LV has gained only 2 seconds in the last 30 days since getting it, wearing it nearly every day and letting it rest dial up when unworn. Staggering accuracy!
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Old 3 December 2020, 06:48 AM   #29
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When i got my Sub, it was -4, after a few weeks, i called my watchman (certified Rolex) told him my sub was -4, he said, bring it in, once he saw it he said i rather it be fast than slow, it's +2 now, i check the time per Toolwatch app around every 3 weeks or when i think about it or longer, it runs maybe 1.2 minutes fast, i can live with that.

so to me just like what he said...a little fast is better....that way your not running late...

get it set at +....and enjoy your fantastic watch....congratulations!
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I have to say my Datejust bought new in October has not needed to be adjusted at all, although I am not an accuracy nut.
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