When it rains, it pours... An unexpected incoming!

[btinl]

Recently I posted about my search for the red sub and my acquisition of a great mk IV example. I happened upon another opportunity and just received a full set with box, double punched papers, and accessories mk II Red Sub. I purchased it from the original owner whose name is on the paperwork. It has never been serviced (but is in need of one). Really excited to add this to my vintage pieces.




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[btinl]

With original pat pend 9315.




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[sensui]

Wow....what a find.

[cop414]

Wow, congratulations Brad, what are your plans, service and polish or just service? Looks to be in great shape!

[TheRolexKingofLV]

Great find Brad, congrats

[btinl]

Originally Posted by cop414

Wow, congratulations Brad, what are your plans, service and polish or just service? Looks to be in great shape!

Thanks, I'll have it serviced but not polished. May need to have the tritium on the hands stabilized. I see a little cracking.

[twnturbo]

Wow nice find ,like you said that's one that's hard to pass up on ,an all original meters 1st congrats ,just goes to show these kinda examples are still available from the private collections every once in a while ,you just gotta be patient & ready to pounce $

[Frosty]

What an awesome find!

[Tom1675]

Amazing! Nice get!

[Aceldama]

Wow. What a find! Congrats.

[Vincent65]

Nice find, enjoy! Also illustrates perfectly how the crown-guards were sometimes uneven, from the factory. Often you see this on examples which have been serviced and polished, and people assume it's a bad polish job which made the CGs uneven. As you say, this is directly from the original owner and has not been serviced/polished.

[btinl]

Originally Posted by Vincent65

Nice find, enjoy! Also illustrates perfectly how the crown-guards were sometimes uneven, from the factory. Often you see this on examples which have been serviced and polished, and people assume it's a bad polish job which made the CGs uneven. As you say, this is directly from the original owner and has not been serviced/polished.

True. It also exemplifies that hands and dial can age differently.

[swatty]

What a great find congrats

[Wahlberg]

It looks amazing. Love the dome.

[Thuilln]

That crystal is Wow!

[mps354]

Congrats!

[Woody]

Great watch and what a find - congratulations.

[fusionstorm]

Congrats!

Did it come with the original bezel insert? It's sporting a later one in the pics.

[btinl]

Originally Posted by fusionstorm

Congrats!

Did it come with the original bezel insert? It's sporting a later one in the pics.

That's the only bezel insert I received. The original owner (not a watch collector) said that's exactly how he received it at time of purchase.

[fusionstorm]

When did he claim he purchased it? Rolex didn't start offering that particular style of bezel insert until many years later........

[btinl]

Originally Posted by fusionstorm

When did he claim he purchased it? Rolex didn't start offering that particular style of bezel insert until many years later........

Paperwork dated in early 1970

[TickTopia]

Nice find. Congrats

[fusionstorm]

Originally Posted by btinl

Paperwork dated in early 1970

That bezel insert isn't original to that Sub, unfortunately.

[btinl]

Originally Posted by fusionstorm

That bezel insert isn't original to that Sub, unfortunately.

Interesting. I'm going to inquire again and ask specifically about if the bezel insert has ever been changed. Can you show me a pic of yours?

[fusionstorm]

Here's mine with a MK2 "long 5" insert. The seller I acquired it from didn't make any declarations as to whether it was original to the Sub or not. Most any Sub from the 70s (red or white) would sport a MK3 insert, if original. Your insert that has the "flat 4" came along much later.

Another thing I'd point out is that your case shows a good amount of wear, in terms of scratches and nicks. Yet the insert looks more new than beat up. How likely is that to actually happen?




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[btinl]

Originally Posted by fusionstorm

Here's mine with a MK2 "long 5" insert. The seller I acquired it from didn't make any declarations as to whether it was original to the Sub or not. Most any Sub from the 70s (red or white) would sport a MK3 insert, if original. Your insert that has the "flat 4" came along much later.

Another thing I'd point out is that your case shows a good amount of wear, in terms of scratches and nicks. Yet the insert looks more new than beat up. How likely is that to actually happen?




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Good point about the wear. Glad to have knowledgeable forum members to catch this stuff.

[PVR]

If this is a Q&A about authenticity then let me throw my hat into the ring..

Any chance to see the other side of that hang tag with the serial number on it?
Feel free to block out the last couple of numbers..

Curious..

[brandrea]

Congratulations brad, its a beauty

[btinl]

Originally Posted by PVR

If this is a Q&A about authenticity then let me throw my hat into the ring..



Any chance to see the other side of that hang tag with the serial number on it?

Feel free to block out the last couple of numbers..



Curious..

Didn't intend for this to be a Q&A but open to feedback. The green tag is pretty faded but you can make out the numbers.




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[PVR]

Tag is real. So is the anchor, Red Chrono tag, Box and Wallet.

Ephemera is Good..