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30 July 2020, 06:54 PM | #91 | |
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30 July 2020, 07:00 PM | #92 |
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30 July 2020, 09:50 PM | #93 | |
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Not sure comparison make sense, you cant walk in store today and buy new Ferrari 250. Nautilus is still in production and will remain in foreseeable future... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
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31 July 2020, 02:12 AM | #94 | |
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I know what you want to say but actually, one can't walk in a store today and buy a new Nautilus Try, see what happends |
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31 July 2020, 02:28 AM | #95 |
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I am curious how many here bought a Nautilus at list price or with a discount and are considering selling since prices have been in the crazy territory.
I have had a Nautilus for 10 years and I did not wear it at all. To me, it was just a "Plain Jane" watch. The dial did not stand out and pop like some of the "photoshopped" pictures around the net. It didn't have any complication that Patek has been known for over the years. Is it a decent watch at list price? Yes. But at 2-3x list price, it is not the same as a Patek PC or Chronograph or other complicated watches. |
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31 July 2020, 05:18 AM | #97 | |
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However for nostalgic reasons, I have kept the Nautilus. It reminded me of how I got started with the brand. I am the poster child of what Thierry Stern mentions in his interviews, where a single watch (e.g. Nautilus) may be an entry point into the brand, but one grows to appreciate all the other watches they offer. Certainly being invited to tour their factory and meeting TS and other Patek execs was a big part of the journey. Although I am not as crazy about the Nautilus as others are and do not fully understand people willing to pay 2-3x retail price, I see how it can be an entry point into a brand that can lead someone to becoming a long-term customer. |
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31 July 2020, 06:04 AM | #98 |
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31 July 2020, 07:23 AM | #100 |
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Ey guys...... get your quoting right
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31 July 2020, 11:24 AM | #101 | |
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pretty sure op's not the only member either (not referring to this thread) but the thread is merited nonetheless |
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31 July 2020, 11:27 AM | #102 |
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i also doubt this watch will available for less than 75% over msrp on the gray market any time soon. and good luck getting one at an AD. i also see the luxury watch market pretty much holding steady, even with a likely impending massive recession.
and yeah, even at msrp, 33k for a small ss watch is asking a lot. sure it's a patek, and sure i want one, but it's asking a lot. |
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2015? In Munich you could, in Düsseldorf too.
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31 July 2020, 03:34 PM | #104 |
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Based on my experience it is a myth that blue 5711 were readily available in shop windows here in 2015. At Wempe in Munich they basically laughed me out of the store in late summer 2015 when I was asking re a 5711 blue as a first time customer. Wempe in Nuremberg would have put me on the list with the expectation of a multi-year wait, back then when they had not lost their AD status yet. In the end I went to a smaller AD but it still took quite a while.
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31 July 2020, 03:57 PM | #105 | |
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I ve got mine in Vienna with 4months leadtime in 2014,no Nautilus were in shop window since then (or even before).
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31 July 2020, 04:29 PM | #106 |
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I’ve been quoted longer wait times for straps. 4 months is practically instantaneous. Similar times are needed to get specific Lady Datejust models and such. You wouldn’t exactly call those unavailable, right?
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31 July 2020, 07:30 PM | #109 |
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31 July 2020, 07:49 PM | #111 |
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You dont get it from window of course. Usual story was that some buyer just canceled last minute, it sits in safe and you have opportunity of the lifetime but you need to react now. In this case from today perspective they were actually right:)
And you need smaller ADs for this, it doesnt happen in London or NYC. This is at least how I got my Jumbo back in 2016 after walk in and coffee in AD... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I remember a 5711r sitting in a window in an AD in tst Hong Kong for almost all of 2016. walked by frequently and it took almost a year for it to be gone.
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31 July 2020, 10:21 PM | #113 |
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I remember seeing nautilus on the window like 10yrs ago. Didn’t interest me then and only interests me slightly now due to the hype. The RO on the other hand. Always wanted one, and have the perfect one for me...that bracelet....the dial anyway its amusing for me to see people paying 75k for a basic watch which i would balk at paying 30k for...
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I have no issue with people agreeing to pay huge markups for this or any watch. It’s your money. I, however, would never even dream of doing such a thing. For me its NUTS!
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Simply put, no way
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Yes, with full respect to Pateks value retention etc but looking at grey prices 5711 is in same category as ALS datograph up/down...would be an easy choice...
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There was a thought that a global pandemic and a huge recession and mass unemployment might change things, but what I'm seeing is the power of Social Media and its show off and aspirational nature is a force that can't be contained or even touched, and until it is I think there will always be hype about certain models, and those that have got in at the beginning of this new world, as it were, will probably forever remain treasured as the original gangsters, which is why maybe a hot new thing won't make much difference to them, their position in the pantheon of watch history seems secure.
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