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JParm · 11 September 2019, 07:34 AM

"martian soil"...

Not going to call out the dealer, but that's what this is described as. Unbelievable.

meyers · 11 September 2019, 07:49 AM

I think I've seen them use that same description previously, or maybe it could've been the same watch

In fairness, I'm not sure what I would write next to "Dial" either

CPRWATCH · 11 September 2019, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by meyers

I think I've seen them use that same description previously, or maybe it could've been the same watch

In fairness, I'm not sure what I would write next to "Dial" either

How about , Needs a new dial . Just about sums it up really , why can’t dealers or sellers just be a little more honest in their description of the watch instead of trying to big up the emperors new clothes .

mattedialdoc · 11 September 2019, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CPRWATCH

How about , Needs a new dial . Just about sums it up really , why can’t dealers or sellers just be a little more honest in their description of the watch instead of trying to big up the emperors new clothes .

+1000

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offrdmania · 11 September 2019, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by meyers

I think I've seen them use that same description previously, or maybe it could've been the same watch

In fairness, I'm not sure what I would write next to "Dial" either

Deteriorated and damaged dial is the description that should be next to all of these named dials.

mattedialdoc · 11 September 2019, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jpeezy14@hotmail.com

"martian soil"...

Not going to call out the dealer, but that's what this is described as. Unbelievable.

I have an alternate view:

When are we going to grow a pair and start calling these what they are: damaged...trashed...destroyed?

Our love for patina and the ultimate desire for the “tropical” has gotten out of hand. And until guys stop buying these POS it will continue. Stop the madness.

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shaunylw · 12 September 2019, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mattedialdoc

I have an alternate view:

When are we going to grow a pair and start calling these what they are: damaged...trashed...destroyed?

Our love for patina and the ultimate desire for the “tropical” has gotten out of hand. And until guys stop buying these POS it will continue. Stop the madness.

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It’s so true. Tropic dial can now range from kind of a light cool brown color to a thrashed dial that is clearly ruined. I think this one is rather interesting but i can’t see paying for it.

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kdub · 12 September 2019, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mattedialdoc

I have an alternate view:

When are we going to grow a pair and start calling these what they are: damaged...trashed...destroyed?

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LOL! Yes! I saw it this watch on the vendor’s website the other day and thought wtf! That thing is water damaged!

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Mark020 · 12 September 2019, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mattedialdoc

I have an alternate view:

When are we going to grow a pair and start calling these what they are: damaged...trashed...destroyed?

Our love for patina and the ultimate desire for the “tropical” has gotten out of hand. And until guys stop buying these POS it will continue. Stop the madness.

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Puke seems reasonable too

Verdi · 12 September 2019, 05:55 PM

They also called vintage DJ dial "London sky"! (others call it "ghost dial")
They are obviously having some fun making up nicknames for different dials.

1665fan · 11 September 2019, 08:04 AM

That was the first watch on the moon.....not the speedy pro lol

42itus · 11 September 2019, 08:18 AM

It looks like mold.

I saw this one and thought it was kind of cool. Not cool enough to buy though.

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ROlesorusLEX · 11 September 2019, 08:22 AM

Saw that on their website this morning. Their prices for patina watches are crazy. However, I have to admit this does look really interesting. I wouldn't buy it, but I do kind of like it.

meyers · 11 September 2019, 08:59 AM

How about this: "Patinated"

The word patina comes from the Italian patina (shallow layer of deposit on a surface) derived from the Latin patĭna (pan, shallow dish). Figuratively, patina can refer to any fading, darkening or other signs of age, which are felt to be natural or unavoidable (or both).

The chemical process by which a patina forms or is deliberately induced is called patination, and a work of art coated by a patina is said to be patinated

"Martian soil" is a tad obnoxious, I think is what is being agreed on here. Description ought to be as objective as possible, without ascribing an opinion to it.

Dan S · 11 September 2019, 09:19 AM

I laughed when I saw it, and assumed they were having a bit of a joke.

zapokee · 12 September 2019, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan S

I laughed when I saw it, and assumed they were having a bit of a joke.

Clearly this. They're going meta on the trend for silly dial descriptions, although you do have to be in on the joke to get it.

southtexas · 13 September 2019, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan S

I laughed when I saw it, and assumed they were having a bit of a joke.

I think so also. Just a tongue-in-cheek reference (maybe solely to ruffle feathers?).

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saskmh · 17 September 2019, 03:54 AM

I agree.

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Originally Posted by southtexas

I think so also. Just a tongue-in-cheek reference (maybe solely to ruffle feathers?).

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Kingface66 · 11 September 2019, 09:27 AM

This was discussed at length back in March when it appeared

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=665445

JParm · 11 September 2019, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingface66

This was discussed at length back in March when it appeared

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=665445

Apologies, I hadn't seen that one. I'm usually on the regular forum, not here. Thanks for the info!

Kingface66 · 11 September 2019, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jpeezy14@hotmail.com

Apologies, I hadn't seen that one. I'm usually on the regular forum, not here. Thanks for the info!

No worries! I mean, the absurdity of it remains!

TimeLord2 · 11 September 2019, 09:27 AM

Martian Soil = Exotic Dirt

sillo · 11 September 2019, 09:44 AM

I think we're getting trolled at this point.

Ssunnylee24 · 11 September 2019, 09:48 AM

sprinkle little bit of salt on my shit, it will look similar on macro.

SunTzu · 11 September 2019, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ssunnylee24

sprinkle little bit of salt on my shit, it will look similar on macro.

As long as the obligatory peanut in every steamer doesn't make it on the dial.

uncleluck · 11 September 2019, 06:26 PM

I agree the names are silly and these type of dials should be worth less than nicely aged ones but...

It’s all a matter of opinion and I don’t mind the look of the dials posted above at all, I’d rather have a nice dial with just aged lume but if someone gave me that watch I sure as hell wouldn’t complain.

I just think it’s a tad disrespectful saying it’s trash as it might be what someone likes the look of or a watch that’s aged that way after decades in the family etc. Especially the one 42itus posted, that is pretty interesting if you ask me and I would rather have that dial than a mint gold hour marker dial with white lume. I only really like the matte dial subs with applied lume so it’s an improvement in my eyes to a mint applied marker dial.

JParm · 11 September 2019, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by uncleluck

I agree the names are silly and these type of dials should be worth less than nicely aged ones but...

It’s all a matter of opinion and I don’t mind the look of the dials posted above at all, I’d rather have a nice dial with just aged lume but if someone gave me that watch I sure as hell wouldn’t complain.

I just think it’s a tad disrespectful saying it’s trash as it might be what someone likes the look of or a watch that’s aged that way after decades in the family etc. Especially the one 42itus posted, that is pretty interesting if you ask me and I would rather have that dial than a mint gold hour marker dial with white lume. I only really like the matte dial subs with applied lume so it’s an improvement in my eyes to a mint applied marker dial.

If I sold you a rusted up / water damaged car at a premium and called it something special, you wouldn't find that at least a bit worrisome??

It's one thing to sell the watch with these amazing names; it's something totally different when you mark it up and pass it off as a special piece because it eroded a certain way.

I guess in my eyes, I'd either 1.) put a disclaimer in there somewhere that this is a damaged dial or 2.) not put such a premium on it.

To each their own though...

southtexas · 13 September 2019, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jpeezy14@hotmail.com

If I sold you a rusted up / water damaged car at a premium and called it something special, you wouldn't find that at least a bit worrisome??

It's one thing to sell the watch with these amazing names; it's something totally different when you mark it up and pass it off as a special piece because it eroded a certain way.

I guess in my eyes, I'd either 1.) put a disclaimer in there somewhere that this is a damaged dial or 2.) not put such a premium on it.

To each their own though...

I think the more worrisome part would be that he actually paid a premium for said car.

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zapokee · 13 September 2019, 07:27 AM

Giving dials these names is a good way for them to get publicity. We're all talking about it, aren't we? My favorite was the 1500 Date with the Electric Cactus dial. They're just having a laugh.

bigfatpauli · 11 September 2019, 07:51 PM

Dealer 1: "Wow this dial is ruined. What do we do?"

Dealer 2: "Let marketing worry about that!"

Marketing: "Guys, I found a way to charge a 10% premium for that ruined dial. Meteorite? Try MARTIAN!!"

<all three high-five>

...

...

RSC: "Sir, the dial of your GMT has rusted to the movement. We can't service your watch."

12 September 2019, 05:55 PM	#10
Verdi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mitch Location: UAE Watch: Big Ben Posts: 2,451	They also called vintage DJ dial "London sky"! (others call it "ghost dial") They are obviously having some fun making up nicknames for different dials. __________________ IG: @watch_idiot_savant

11 September 2019, 09:19 AM	#15
Dan S 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 5,893	I laughed when I saw it, and assumed they were having a bit of a joke. __________________ @oldwatchdan on IG

11 September 2019, 09:44 AM	#23
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11 September 2019, 07:49 AM	#2
meyers Banned Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: ○ Watch: 16710 Posts: 435	I think I've seen them use that same description previously, or maybe it could've been the same watch In fairness, I'm not sure what I would write next to "Dial" either

11 September 2019, 08:04 AM	#11
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,590	That was the first watch on the moon.....not the speedy pro lol

11 September 2019, 08:18 AM	#12
42itus "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Real Name: Tom Location: Honolulu Watch: 116519LN Posts: 3,828	It looks like mold. I saw this one and thought it was kind of cool. Not cool enough to buy though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11 September 2019, 08:22 AM	#13
ROlesorusLEX "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: GA Watch: 5 Digit Posts: 603	Saw that on their website this morning. Their prices for patina watches are crazy. However, I have to admit this does look really interesting. I wouldn't buy it, but I do kind of like it.

11 September 2019, 08:59 AM	#14
meyers Banned Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: ○ Watch: 16710 Posts: 435	How about this: "Patinated" The word patina comes from the Italian patina (shallow layer of deposit on a surface) derived from the Latin patĭna (pan, shallow dish). Figuratively, patina can refer to any fading, darkening or other signs of age, which are felt to be natural or unavoidable (or both). The chemical process by which a patina forms or is deliberately induced is called patination, and a work of art coated by a patina is said to be patinated "Martian soil" is a tad obnoxious, I think is what is being agreed on here. Description ought to be as objective as possible, without ascribing an opinion to it.

11 September 2019, 09:27 AM	#19
Kingface66 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: The Empire State Watch: 1966 Rolex 5513 Posts: 3,414	This was discussed at length back in March when it appeared https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=665445

11 September 2019, 09:27 AM	#22
TimeLord2 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Valencia, CA Watch: GMT Master 1675/3 Posts: 2,045	Martian Soil = Exotic Dirt

11 September 2019, 09:48 AM	#24
Ssunnylee24 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Los Angeles Watch: Explorer II Posts: 853	sprinkle little bit of salt on my shit, it will look similar on macro.

11 September 2019, 06:26 PM	#26
uncleluck "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: England Posts: 518	I agree the names are silly and these type of dials should be worth less than nicely aged ones but... It’s all a matter of opinion and I don’t mind the look of the dials posted above at all, I’d rather have a nice dial with just aged lume but if someone gave me that watch I sure as hell wouldn’t complain. I just think it’s a tad disrespectful saying it’s trash as it might be what someone likes the look of or a watch that’s aged that way after decades in the family etc. Especially the one 42itus posted, that is pretty interesting if you ask me and I would rather have that dial than a mint gold hour marker dial with white lume. I only really like the matte dial subs with applied lume so it’s an improvement in my eyes to a mint applied marker dial.

13 September 2019, 07:27 AM	#29
zapokee "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Japan Posts: 4,344	Giving dials these names is a good way for them to get publicity. We're all talking about it, aren't we? My favorite was the 1500 Date with the Electric Cactus dial. They're just having a laugh.

11 September 2019, 07:51 PM	#30
bigfatpauli "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Toronto Posts: 684	Dealer 1: "Wow this dial is ruined. What do we do?" Dealer 2: "Let marketing worry about that!" Marketing: "Guys, I found a way to charge a 10% premium for that ruined dial. Meteorite? Try MARTIAN!!" <all three high-five> ... ... RSC: "Sir, the dial of your GMT has rusted to the movement. We can't service your watch."

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