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Karbo · 14 October 2018, 04:17 PM

Regarding The bodybuilder 5164

Just for information
5164 heft is 10.2mm
5167 heft is 8.1mm
1016 heft is 12.0mm

>> 5164 is a bit bulkier than a 5167 but c’mon a female bodybuilder is absolutely inappropriate

And here is a pic of my 12.0mm 1016 the heavy weight champ

watchfan0529 · 14 October 2018, 08:01 PM

The dial on the 5167 is too broad for 40mm, it feels a bit empty and too plain. The 5164 solved that problem with the local/home indicators and the date subdial. The hour pushers also make the 5164 much more balanced. IMHO the 5164 is the best daily watch out there..

AK797 · 14 October 2018, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bearxj86

The market seems to agree since the 5167 sells at a huge premium and 5164 is or below retail...

I also have a 6.75 wrist, 5711 and 5167 is perfection. 5980 and 5990 while nice are thick

64 is at a £6/7K premium in UK, US looks not far behind.

tyler1980 · 14 October 2018, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bearxj86

Agree with the bodybuilder analogy lol. I like the 8.4mm thin and 40mm dial of the 5167. Elegant, thin, well finished are all the reason.

The market seems to agree since the 5167 sells at a huge premium and 5164 is or below retail...

I also have a 6.75 wrist, 5711 and 5167 is perfection. 5980 and 5990 while nice are thick

entry level anything has more potential upside since it already looks so similar to a more expensive one. More buyers at that level as well as the travel time is an expensive complication to add, if you dont want it.

a 64 use to cost more than a 5712... so thats part of the reason as you have more patek options and other watch options at 5164 prices. At 5167 prices you can buy a 5167. Doesnt make it a bad watch or a less desirable watch, but your available alternatives are less.

Karbo · 14 October 2018, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by watchfan0529

the dial on the 5167 is too broad for 40mm, it feels a bit empty and too plain. The 5164 solved that problem with the local/home indicators and the date subdial. The hour pushers also make the 5164 much more balanced. Imho the 5164 is the best daily watch out there..

+1

DressWatchJones · 15 October 2018, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by watchfan0529

The dial on the 5167 is too broad for 40mm, it feels a bit empty and too plain. The 5164 solved that problem with the local/home indicators and the date subdial. The hour pushers also make the 5164 much more balanced. IMHO the 5164 is the best daily watch out there..

Dial too broad for a 40mm??? What a load rubbish. It's not like it's a plain dial either.
I assume you have one of those female bodybuilders as an every day watch?

tyler1980 · 15 October 2018, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DressWatchJones

Dial too broad for a 40mm??? What a load rubbish. It's not like it's a plain dial either.
I assume you have one of those female bodybuilders as an every day watch?

its got a lot of empty space. I do like a dial with a bit more going on and im not a fan of date windows. A 5167 with a date display like a 5164 and nothing else changes, i would buy one even though its a bit thin for a rubber strap sports watch.

same reason i prefer the 5524 to a 5522... more going on without being cluttered.

watchfan0529 · 15 October 2018, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DressWatchJones

Dial too broad for a 40mm??? What a load rubbish. It's not like it's a plain dial either.
I assume you have one of those female bodybuilders as an every day watch?

Woah, that escalated quickly

. Did you design the 5167? I'm just saying..that design belongs to the 5165/5065, there is too much space on the dial IMHO.

Yes i do have a 5164..and it's AWESOME!

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ras47 · 15 October 2018, 02:01 AM

I'm a very recent convert to a PP lover. But for me the 5167 is the one. Love the clean design and lack of sub-dials. Which is ironic since my daily wear is an Omega Speedmaster.

V25V · 15 October 2018, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DressWatchJones

Dial too broad for a 40mm??? What a load rubbish. It's not like it's a plain dial either.

I assume you have one of those female bodybuilders as an every day watch?

Take it easy, killer.

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SL BRABUS · 15 October 2018, 03:20 AM

For retail price I rather have the two hottest watch (5167 & 126710 BLRO) instead of one watch 5164.....

And still have some leftover money for a nice vacation & dinner.....

tyler1980 · 15 October 2018, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SL BRABUS

For retail price I rather have the two hottest watch (5167 & 126710 BLRO) instead of one watch 5164.....

And still have some leftover money for a nice vacation & dinner.....

i still prefer the 64, but yes thats what i was getting at earlier. There are a lot of options if you dont really want a travel time aquanaut. So its not like comparing white vs black daytona C's... one at retail and one at secondary prices then it might be, both at retail, no.

Vetracer · 15 October 2018, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DressWatchJones

Completely disagree. 5164 is like a female bodybuilder....just doesn’t look right. Curves in all the wrong places

AK797 · 15 October 2018, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DressWatchJones

Dial too broad for a 40mm??? What a load rubbish. It's not like it's a plain dial either.
I assume you have one of those female bodybuilders as an every day watch?

Stop going on about female bodybuilders. You're from Scotland where all the women look like your Dad.

tonupbklyn · 15 October 2018, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

Stop going on about female bodybuilders. You're from Scotland where all the women look like your Dad.

LOL!!!!!!

tyler1980 · 15 October 2018, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

Stop going on about female bodybuilders. You're from Scotland where all the women look like your Dad.

Bearxj86 · 15 October 2018, 07:45 AM

It depends on your wrist size too. I'm a fan of thin (below 10mm) watches and clean 3 handers. Even the 5168g at 42mm is too big for me.

As for bodybuilders...fitness model bodybuilders are pretty hawt : )

I can pick up a 5164 from most dealers preowned around 32-33k the 5167 preowned is around $24k in the U.S. The 5167 premium is about $5k and the 5164 premium is right around $0ish. I think for new yes there should be an even bigger premium.

This forum has a ton of love for 5164 aquanauts, perhaps it needs to grow on me.

V25V · 15 October 2018, 01:50 PM

You keep saying this but I have never seen a 5164a listed for anywhere near MSRP from a gray or second hand. Sure the premium isn't as high as the 5167 but it's not insignificant either. But why does that really matter anyhow?

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GB-man · 15 October 2018, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by V25V

You keep saying this but I have never seen a 5164a listed for anywhere near MSRP from a gray or second hand. Sure the premium isn't as high as the 5167 but it's not insignificant either. But why does that really matter anyhow?

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Agreed I will buy them hand over fist at 32k. Then I’ll sell them for thousands in profit quickly and easily.

As Tyler noted the reason the 67 enjoys more premium is it’s the lowest price sports Patek in the catalogue by far.

Again I’m a huge fan of both. 67 was a daily for me for a few years and now the 64 is my horse.

Karbo · 16 October 2018, 02:04 AM

Yeeeah both marvelous watches.... only thing is that one is better than the other....

CamSLC · 16 October 2018, 02:40 AM

Have the 67' and really appreciate the 64'. I like a minimalist style in most things, apparently watches included.

pam66 · 16 October 2018, 03:17 AM

i just don't get why those car-tyre-style-strapped aquanauts are so popular. any nautilus over any aquanaut, anywhere and anytime:::))))) but to each her/his own....

tyler1980 · 16 October 2018, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by pam66

i just don't get why those car-tyre-style-strapped aquanauts are so popular. any nautilus over any aquanaut, anywhere and anytime:::))))) but to each her/his own....

maybe its because it looks like you are wearing a repurposed tire. Jeans with holes in them cost way more too and they look like some one gave them to the charity shop and you found them there. Recycling is in

perpetualman88 · 16 October 2018, 03:44 AM

5164 is next on my hit list

pam66 · 16 October 2018, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

maybe its because it looks like you are wearing a repurposed tire. Jeans with holes in them cost way more too and they look like some one gave them to the charity shop and you found them there. Recycling is in

...and it contributes to save the planet:::)))

Bit5711 · 16 October 2018, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pam66

i just don't get why those car-tyre-style-strapped aquanauts are so popular. any nautilus over any aquanaut, anywhere and anytime:::))))) but to each her/his own....

If I were living somewhere safe then , I would definitely choose SS watch band over rubber band , however where I live isn’t always safe , hence I feel safer putting aquanaut on than SS Rolex or Patek

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Fat_ninja · 16 October 2018, 05:56 AM

I dont have a preference of the 67 or 64....

But i wanted to say nothing wrong with female bodybuilders!!!

R!$ · 16 October 2018, 09:24 AM

5164 is a significantly different and more robust option

Bearxj86 · 16 October 2018, 10:16 AM

I’ve had opportunities to buy 5164a at 32-34 a few times in the past 6 Months. Lookup watchrecon too. They are listed at 35-37 and NIB is around 38. They don’t sell at those prices.

Again this is US market and maybe I got lucky and missed an opportunity to buy

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s.m.b. · 16 October 2018, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by R!$

5164 is a significantly different and more robust option

Significantly different, yes. More robust, doubtful...

15 October 2018, 02:01 AM	#39
ras47 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Real Name: Robert Location: Northern NJ Watch: 16710 BLRO Posts: 3,063	I'm a very recent convert to a PP lover. But for me the 5167 is the one. Love the clean design and lack of sub-dials. Which is ironic since my daily wear is an Omega Speedmaster. __________________ Rolex GMT Master II BLRO 16710 Omega Speedmaster Co-Axial Chrono

15 October 2018, 03:20 AM	#41
SL BRABUS "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: U.S.A Watch: Only Rolex & Patek Posts: 3,345	For retail price I rather have the two hottest watch (5167 & 126710 BLRO) instead of one watch 5164..... And still have some leftover money for a nice vacation & dinner..... __________________ Rolex Forum: Mainly Rolex & Benz pictures...!!! Click the above link to join the club...^^^... "SL BRABUS" aka BenzWorld Undercover Moderator

16 October 2018, 02:04 AM	#50
Karbo "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Paris, France Watch: Dayto/5164 Posts: 1,631	Yeeeah both marvelous watches.... only thing is that one is better than the other.... __________________ IG : @aka_karbo

16 October 2018, 03:44 AM	#54
perpetualman88 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: David Farkas Location: Los Angeles Watch: 116610, 5712/1A Posts: 8,010	5164 is next on my hit list __________________ Instagram: @SwissWatchTime

16 October 2018, 10:16 AM	#59
Bearxj86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Los Angeles Watch: 3970 Posts: 3,800	Hate the 5167... love the 5164.. is this normal !? I’ve had opportunities to buy 5164a at 32-34 a few times in the past 6 Months. Lookup watchrecon too. They are listed at 35-37 and NIB is around 38. They don’t sell at those prices. Again this is US market and maybe I got lucky and missed an opportunity to buy Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

14 October 2018, 08:01 PM	#32
watchfan0529 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Geneva Posts: 132	The dial on the 5167 is too broad for 40mm, it feels a bit empty and too plain. The 5164 solved that problem with the local/home indicators and the date subdial. The hour pushers also make the 5164 much more balanced. IMHO the 5164 is the best daily watch out there..

15 October 2018, 07:45 AM	#47
Bearxj86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Los Angeles Watch: 3970 Posts: 3,800	It depends on your wrist size too. I'm a fan of thin (below 10mm) watches and clean 3 handers. Even the 5168g at 42mm is too big for me. As for bodybuilders...fitness model bodybuilders are pretty hawt : ) I can pick up a 5164 from most dealers preowned around 32-33k the 5167 preowned is around $24k in the U.S. The 5167 premium is about $5k and the 5164 premium is right around $0ish. I think for new yes there should be an even bigger premium. This forum has a ton of love for 5164 aquanauts, perhaps it needs to grow on me.

15 October 2018, 01:50 PM	#48
V25V 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: USA Posts: 4,340	You keep saying this but I have never seen a 5164a listed for anywhere near MSRP from a gray or second hand. Sure the premium isn't as high as the 5167 but it's not insignificant either. But why does that really matter anyhow? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

16 October 2018, 02:40 AM	#51
CamSLC "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: USA Watch: Rolex & Patek Posts: 1,436	Have the 67' and really appreciate the 64'. I like a minimalist style in most things, apparently watches included.

16 October 2018, 03:17 AM	#52
pam66 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: cambridge Posts: 2,256	i just don't get why those car-tyre-style-strapped aquanauts are so popular. any nautilus over any aquanaut, anywhere and anytime:::))))) but to each her/his own....

16 October 2018, 05:56 AM	#57
Fat_ninja Banned Join Date: May 2018 Real Name: Jonathan Location: USA Watch: P-01 Posts: 11,772	I dont have a preference of the 67 or 64.... But i wanted to say nothing wrong with female bodybuilders!!!

16 October 2018, 09:24 AM	#58
R!$ Banned Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,405	5164 is a significantly different and more robust option

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