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26 February 2018, 11:43 AM | #31 | |
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Thoughts on the future for Daytona 6263?
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Really? All of these models have steadily gone up in price. Certainly not like a vintage Daytona, but all the watches I've bought in the last couple years have appreciated greatly. ------ Instagram: @mattedialdoc |
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26 February 2018, 11:48 AM | #32 |
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Tell me where these cheap 1019s and red subs are!!! Just kidding around and I agree “quirky” refs like 1019 and 1655 are pretty stagnant but some have come up too in my view and so have red subs (a lot in the last year!). There has to be a ceiling somewhere one would assume and Daytonas I think are slower to sell/ move at 90-100k than they were before. But are we there yet? Who the hell knows... Quote:
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I am priced out of being able to add much of anything at this point so the feeling is mutual.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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26 February 2018, 06:54 PM | #36 |
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Scroll down to see results. Pretty interesting imho.
https://www.collectorsquare.com/en/w...rolex-1019/lpi https://www.collectorsquare.com/en/w...xplorer-ii/lpi Overall prices could vary. Especially when condition is so much more important today than in the past when price was pretty much related to the reference. It is however interesting to see how some of the hot watches from the past performs today. It is harder to compare red subs and DRSD as they share the same reference number with their much cheaper white brothers but just remembering where they were you notice they have not moved a lot. At least not compared the market in general. Great examples are of course up a lot as condition is king today but there haven't really been the overall crazy hype of daytonas as gilts we see today. I wish I could go back to the day when gilt subs were priced lower than red subs. Perhaps a bit off-topic.. Sorry |
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where can I find this for GMTs and Daytonas?
Thank you Scroll down to see results. Pretty interesting imho. https://www.collectorsquare.com/en/w...rolex-1019/lpi https://www.collectorsquare.com/en/w...xplorer-ii/lpi |
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Mille Grazie :-)
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26 February 2018, 09:57 PM | #41 |
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Some 6263 results from Sothebys incl. buyers premium http://www.sothebys.com/en/search-re...l?keyword=6263
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I'd never, ever buy from one of these auction houses, but maybe that's just me. Sometimes there are mistakes in the listings, and some of the offerings are dodgy with sketchy provenance, etc... They don't always know what they're doing. |
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27 February 2018, 02:08 AM | #43 |
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Correct what you are wrighting, but it is a reference.
I am in the same position as you, wait or buy? |
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the quality of fake parts for these is scary, so much so that i could see it being negative for the Daytona market at some point. the high quality fakes have laser measure cases capable of receiving genuine Rolex parts. many pay $5k+ for real dials to throw in. the Rolex stamped parts for the V72 movement are made with incredible accuracy. the movements are "converted" to 727. think of it this way. the Texas (Mayer) dials were made what 25+ years ago? these fooled auction houses and some very well heeled collectors. technology for everything, including fake parts, has vastly improved in that time frame. this watch below is fake. 100% of it is fake, it contains no authentic parts. but it does have a V72 with a 727 conversion. this isnt even a particularly good fake. the good fakes are put together for $10k+ using numerous genuine parts and this is a fraction of that using only Vietnamese after-market parts. Scary world out there.
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27 February 2018, 08:48 AM | #47 |
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So what is the price/value now for a good and correct 6263? With and without papers.
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Pay for condition. Papers don’t add much for me unless the watch is in 100% condition. Depending on quality, version and additional extras such as tropical or double signed dials I’d say they can cost anywhere between 50-150k. PNs of course much more. For a standard run on the mill big red I guess they are 65-75k in good condition. Bit more with papers. Plus minus money depending on who sells it. |
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No doubt they are hot though. |
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Thanks guys, thats what I‘m thinking
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This is no different for other references, except for the fact that there is more money to be made within Daytonas. I would stay away from the rare, prototype, unicorn examples, but the ones very largely produced, a 6263 big red for example, it's not difficult to identify, not for many guys, and not for experts like Andrew Shear, Eric Ku, etc. This is exactly why people (myself included) justify a premium from trusted sellers. |
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I think the only way that the price of 6263 can go is up. For a good condition full set black dial one (which seems to be a bit more expensive than the silver) is already well over 100k USD. It is the ultimate vintage watch (not counting the Paul Newmans of course).
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At least in the west coast amongst dealers and collectors this is how it has always been. Ultimately condition rules, but assuming similar condition. |
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Maybe we're reading the same ads. I always thought the panda was more in demand as well (silver/cream dials).
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Black sigma dial!!!!!!!!!!
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So, a very good 6263, big red, with all papers it really good condition - value?
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