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Old 22 April 2018, 10:14 AM   #1
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Cream dial 16570 Explorer 2 info

Lots of info on the cream dial 16650s, less so on the 16570s. I just picked this up from the original owner, X7xxx serial.

See a few other cream 16570s in a search.

Anyone else have one, or could shed more light on them? Thx.







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Old 22 April 2018, 10:49 AM   #2
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Holy grail for Exp II lovers! They are indeed even rare than cream 16550s.

I would imagine its probably the first production run of the 16570 that has the 'defect' lacquer from the 16550.

Upon searching the forum, I saw a deal back in 2012 for a a similar one for close to 8k. ant imagine what its trading at now.
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Old 22 April 2018, 10:58 AM   #3
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What you’ve got is a beautiful example of a hard to find variation. Awesome, stunning piece.


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Old 13 June 2018, 08:43 PM   #4
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is this version possible?

16570 non rail but creamdial black surround marker?
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Old 14 June 2018, 04:09 AM   #5
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is this version possible?

16570 non rail but creamdial black surround marker?
From what I’ve read,No it’s not possible.The Hardcore Collectors will only pay big money for the WG surrounds Rail cream dials.
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Old 14 June 2018, 05:59 AM   #6
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From what I’ve read,No it’s not possible.The Hardcore Collectors will only pay big money for the WG surrounds Rail cream dials.
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Old 14 June 2018, 06:09 AM   #7
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Cream dial 16570 Explorer 2 info

Here is mine. They are pretty rare though. From my understanding only the rail dial turn cream. I bought one non rail dial cream but it turned out the dial was tampered with. In the end I had to return it.


Btw, if I remember correctly, it also has the x serial.

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Old 14 June 2018, 02:34 PM   #8
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That’s a nice piece there

I did start a post on Facebook VRF

There are some members commented with unrail cream 16570 black markers too


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Old 12 July 2018, 05:13 AM   #9
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I do have one
16750
Non rail
Cream
X series -49xxxx

Don’t look tampered to me .


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Old 12 July 2018, 01:27 PM   #10
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I do have one
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Non rail
Cream
X series -49xxxx

Don’t look tampered to me .


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Please share pictures. I’m not saying it’s not out there but I haven’t seen one that’s legit yet. Even the rail cream 16570 is very rare. Much rarer than 16550 cream. When I bought it years ago before the cream was popular, it came with Rolex rsc paper.


I blame it on autoconnect.
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Old 13 September 2018, 06:26 PM   #11
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Hi, i owe a 16570 cream with rial dial, absolut perfect and authentic e-serial............
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Old 14 September 2018, 06:31 AM   #12
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Funny you should say. I encountered a 16570 cream dial in the wild just yesterday.

I was seeing a police officer in my city and he commented on my watch. I said thank you, I see your Explorer II. He told me that he bought it for $2500 about 14 years ago pre-owned. Had it appraised several years ago and it was worth roughly $8000.

Then he turned it to me and I could see the cream color of the dial. Wow. I'd never seen one in person. It was in excellent condition. He told me how the metal reacted with the dial to turn it this color. And that he was told to never send it in to RSC or else they'd switch out the dial.

It looked exactly like yours. I must say I was impressed. After he left I wished I'd taken some pictures.
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Old 15 September 2018, 04:23 AM   #13
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habe versucht ein foto einzustellen......
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Old 15 September 2018, 04:24 AM   #14
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brauche 10 posts...........
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Old 15 September 2018, 04:24 AM   #15
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also noch 6.......
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Old 15 September 2018, 04:25 AM   #16
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werde mir mühe geben.......
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Old 15 September 2018, 04:26 AM   #17
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meine 16570 cream dial....
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Old 15 September 2018, 04:26 AM   #18
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in kürze hier zu zeigen......
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Old 15 September 2018, 04:27 AM   #19
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sie hat dunklere indexe........
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Old 15 September 2018, 04:27 AM   #20
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als die weiter oben gezeigte........
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Old 15 September 2018, 04:28 AM   #21
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sonst identisch.......
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Old 15 September 2018, 07:36 AM   #23
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Lol. Are you the original owner?


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Old 15 September 2018, 09:50 AM   #24
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Nice watches, I too thought it was only the WG surrounds that could be cream. Learn something new all the time. I have a growing addmiration for the cream 116520 at the moment!!!
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Old 15 September 2018, 05:51 PM   #25
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i am the second owner...............everything is documentet. the dial is absolut perfect. as is said, the indexes are darker then the ones of omithoud..........and the hands are black.................i will tray later to make a better photo.
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Old 15 September 2018, 06:30 PM   #26
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Old 28 August 2021, 07:46 PM   #27
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Hoping to secure a 16570 in the next few days with creaming dial. Can’t wait!!
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Old 29 August 2021, 06:25 PM   #28
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Beautiful piece..
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Old 29 August 2021, 09:28 PM   #29
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To me it's the same category as the Blueberry GMT inserts, you either believe or you don't.

Whatever happened to the Blueberry controversy? I've heard nothing since the big thread.
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Old 29 August 2021, 11:20 PM   #30
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BB inserts and 16550/16570, reminds me of the guy who put a BB on his Polar 16570, looked quite good. In a similar vein I found the stick hands on one of my old watches to be difficult to read, so I changed them (for the hands I'd had on my 1016 until a recent upgrade!)

More common on the old Exp2 was the lume yellowing. I think the process could be accelerated, my own old one looks like someone did that to it. Nice look but I'm not sure it helps with resale.

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