Tudor Submariner 94110 - Phillip Ridley

[SAAS]

Congrats looks great

[RFC]

Originally Posted by tekno

Ty guys. I know many of you have vintage watch collections & have had them serviced many times. This is only my fourth vintage sports Rolex/Tudor. The others weren’t near this nice. My normal watchmaker is good but I assumed these hands/dial are probably very fragile - I wanted the right person. I also wanted to choose someone that could fix the hands should they crack during service.

Phillip noted that it hadn’t been previously serviced & all original except the case was recut or “Polished” as it has been recently rebranded.

Needless to say I am very pleased with Phillip. Thank you JP & Linesiders for your help with the process.

Lovely watch I would wear all day. Phillip is the man.

[boywithakoi]

Beautiful piece!

[Onequik135i]

Turned out perfect just as all of Phillips work. I just had my 3592 serviced w him recently and he matched the lume on the hands perfectly (under UV light they match the dial 100%). The older lume was cracking on them along w the Chrono hand having a dull grey look from age. I’m sending him the 116710 sometime later this year for basic service next.

[Dan S]

Originally Posted by Onequik135i

Turned out perfect just as all of Phillips work. I just had my 3592 serviced w him recently and he matched the lume on the hands perfectly (under UV light they match the dial 100%). The older lume was cracking on them along w the Chrono hand having a dull grey look from age. I’m sending him the 116710 sometime later this year for basic service next.

Just curious, what is a 3592?

[linesiders]

Looks great, dude!

[tekno]

Depending on how things go tomorrow I may let y’all know a story.

I’m fing furious.


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[GuiltunderGlass]

Originally Posted by tekno

I remember being told not to expose it to solvents which I regularly deal with - that concerned me.

Fitment aside, I'd guess that this applies equally to the Rolex T19, acrylic and solvents do not generally play nice. I have a D39 on a GMT, so far so good, but my thought was that I'd rather put newer acrylic on my watch than 40+ year old acrylic. Having been an avid aquarist in my youth, I can attest that the stuff does not age gracefully.

Ironically, I also have a NOS T19 sitting in a box, but have left it there for the reasons above, but this thread has me thinking maybe I should throw it on my 94010.

[tekno]

Originally Posted by GuiltunderGlass

Fitment aside, I'd guess that this applies equally to the Rolex T19, acrylic and solvents do not generally play nice. I have a D39 on a GMT, so far so good, but my thought was that I'd rather put newer acrylic on my watch than 40+ year old acrylic. Having been an avid aquarist in my youth, I can attest that the stuff does not age gracefully.

Ironically, I also have a NOS T19 sitting in a box, but have left it there for the reasons above, but this thread has me thinking maybe I should throw it on my 94010.

I’m not sure I trust the Rolex crystals.


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[dhknola]

Hope all is good Tek

[tekno]

It’s all good, the joy of owning something old is all.

I’ll know more tomorrow. Watch should be fine.

[007Sub]

Originally Posted by GuiltunderGlass

Fitment aside, I'd guess that this applies equally to the Rolex T19, acrylic and solvents do not generally play nice. I have a D39 on a GMT, so far so good, but my thought was that I'd rather put newer acrylic on my watch than 40+ year old acrylic. Having been an avid aquarist in my youth, I can attest that the stuff does not age gracefully.

Ironically, I also have a NOS T19 sitting in a box, but have left it there for the reasons above, but this thread has me thinking maybe I should throw it on my 94010.

This is correct. Issues with solvents like alcohol apply equally to all acrylic crystals.

[tekno]

Watch is back w/True Dome now - I now have experience with both original Rolex T19 and 4 truedomes. 1 original V1 & 3 V2’s.

The only one that failed was the Rolex T19, it lasted a little over 2 weeks. I just think old acrylic isn’t as structurally as sound as new plastic. I was warned by someone who’s opinion I value greatly - that old acrylic is a gamble.

I’ll stick with Truedome… I feel very lucky to have noticed the issue immediately - nothing was damaged thank god.

[Cosmokramer]

What an incredible example!

[tekno]

Thank you, here are pics today. With Truedome




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[Dom9]

Plexi looks great. I am on the originals for both my 9411s, with cyclops, so I'd quite like to try one, but the Truedome website isn't working for me. Anyone else have the same issue? Or a working link?

The watch is a stunner!

[karleone]

Beautiful Tudor and nice condition !

[Boaters]

What a beauty 😍

[swish77]

Now that's the way a case should look! Stunning watch.

[Cosmokramer]

Why is the lume so light in color? I assumed tritium lume always turns yellow and darker with age. I'm learning, so forgive my noob-ness

[Cosmokramer]

Excuse my noobness as I'm still learning. Why does the lume look so white still? I thought tritium lume always darkened with age.

[Cosmokramer]

Excuse my noobness as I'm still learning. Why is the lume so white? I thought tritium lume always gets darker with age and sun.

[Cosmokramer]

Originally Posted by Cosmokramer

Excuse my noobness as I'm still learning. Why is the lume so white? I thought tritium lume always gets darker with age and sun.

Um, sorry about the triple post everyone, hahaha. I guess because im such a new member I didn't realize my posts were being audited by moderators prior to showing up in a thread so I though they were posting. Oops.

[Filipão]

Depends on the lume.

Word is it also depends on how much sun or safe it has seen.

5513 Maxis Mk1 tnd to remain relatively whiteish, that I can assure you.

[Dan S]

I don't think the OP watch lume is white, it has definitely yellowed noticeably IMO.

[linesiders]

Lume is fairly creamy. Different Lume materials over the years have different response to moisture, safe time, and sun, so there is a lot of divergence.


I can show you original plots from 19612 that are very white and you only see discoloration under magnification, and other lumes that are almost like clay.

[tekno]

My lume is definitely on the creamy side, it’s only an 82… it’s hard to capture lume color in photos though. Lighting & camera choice changes the look of the lume a lot.

There are some dial types that age differently than others, as stated above where/how it was stored changes the look. I believe a lot of the super dark minty creamy watches you see would most likely have been kept in the dark. I have wondered what turns some dial lume to the super dark “pumpkin” color. I believe I have noticed it on 16800’s a few times.

The reason I jumped on this one so hard was the dial condition. The hands aren’t in the the best condition but they are original.






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[Dom9]

I'd be interested in the answer to the 'pumpkin' conundrum. My black dial 9411 ha pretty yellow/orange lume and it looks great. My blue, on the other hand (same age, a few serial numbers apart, same use, etc.) hasn't aged the same way.

[tekno]

Originally Posted by Dom9

I'd be interested in the answer to the 'pumpkin' conundrum. My black dial 9411 ha pretty yellow/orange lume and it looks great. My blue, on the other hand (same age, a few serial numbers apart, same use, etc.) hasn't aged the same way.

If you black looks like it sat in a safe I’m going to bet that’s the answer. Most of the watches I see that are really dark look like they are almost NOS, possibly sat in a safe. I could be wrong.


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[Dom9]

Mine are certainly very well used (most likely military diving), with heavy dial patina (possibly moisture). That doesn't of course necessarily mean they've seen a lot of light in their 46yrs, especially in their later life. Will grab a photo or start my own thread in the coming days.