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minimalista · 9 May 2016, 12:03 PM

Hello Everyone,

A local pawnshop is offering a Rolex GMT Master II with an F serial number which I am considering. I've only seen two of these watches in person and don't want to make a mistake .

Do the bezel and bezel insert look correct for this vintage watch? All of the photos that I have seen online seem to indicate a matte finish on the scalloped bezel edges, and serif fonts on the bezel insert. This watch has polished bezel edges and the insert does not have serif fonts.

Otherwise everything about the watch looks authentic to me.

Thanks in advance for any insight.

Jim

GLADIATOR · 9 May 2016, 12:46 PM

Hi
What I can confirm, is movement will be genuine
A

kirksingleton · 9 May 2016, 01:48 PM

I think it looks good! It will have the etched crown in the crystal, at 6:00, if you have a loop to check it. Interested to know what movement is in it!

minimalista · 9 May 2016, 02:19 PM

Hi Gladiator and kirksingleton,

Thank you both for your information and for taking the time to post.

Gladiator, how can you tell?

Kirk, I looked at the full size versions of the photos and can clearly see the etched crown at 6:00. Thanks for pointing that out!

I'm wondering if the top of the bezel ring may have been polished when the watch was serviced? After looking at dozens of photos of similar vintage watches in the Rolex Sale section I found at least one F serial (2004) watch with a Pepsi insert that has this type of font. None of the watches I've seen online seem to have a polished bezel ring. Is there anything else that I should look for?

Thanks again,
Jim

minimalista · 9 May 2016, 02:32 PM

Hi Gladiator and KirkSingleton,

Thank you for your expertise and for taking the time to post.

Gladiator, how can you tell?

Kirk, I looked at the full sized photos and can clearly see the etched crown at 6:00. Thanks for pointing that out!

I wonder if the edge of the bezel may have been polished when the watch was serviced? I've studied dozens of photos of similar vintage GMT Master II on the Rolex Brand sales section and have not seen a single watch that had a polished bezel ring. I did find one other F series with a similar font on the bezel insert.

Thanks again for sharing your thoughts on this.

Jim

kirksingleton · 9 May 2016, 02:41 PM

Here is a shot of mine, it is also a f serial number. It is the only photo I have as mine is in the safe but it may help. It looks like mine is polished also (if we are talking about the same piece)

kirksingleton · 9 May 2016, 02:47 PM

Yes, I saw the crown in your shots. Your watch appears to be shiney overall but that could just be the last owner polishing it themselves. The watch looks good to me. How much is it?

GLADIATOR · 9 May 2016, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirksingleton

Yes, I saw the crown in your shots. ?

Where?

crowncollection · 9 May 2016, 09:07 PM

Looks ok from what I can see

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kirksingleton · 9 May 2016, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Where?

G- if you click on the photo it linke you to the flicker acct where you can blow up the photo and it is visible

minimalista · 9 May 2016, 11:28 PM

Hello Everyone,

Gladiator, the etched crown is visible in the full size version of the second photo. Not sure you can see it on the posted pic.

Kirk, thank you for posting your photo. Your watch looks like it has a matte finish. The one I am looking seems to much more reflective. How hard is is to replace the bezel insert? I've seen youtube videos that make it look easy. But I am wary of breaking the assembly. The shop is asking around $5200 for the watch. It was offered for a little less but I was told that the price was only good until the next day.

David, thanks for your insight.

Best,

Jim

kirksingleton · 10 May 2016, 01:37 AM

mine looks matte because I had just hit it with a green pad. Easy to swap insert, I think. I was able to get mine out fine and am waiting for the mail to bring me the pepsi to snap in. $5100 is a good price for that watch. I see your concern with the polish but it wouldn't bother me at all. As long as the seller is reputable I wouldn't have any concerns. Does it have box and papers? Many don't these days, not a deal breaker. I think you could buy it, wear it and always get all of your money back out later if you want. Good luck!

GLADIATOR · 10 May 2016, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minimalista

Hello Everyone,

Gladiator, the etched crown is visible in the full size version of the second photo. Not sure you can see it on the posted pic.

Jim

Got it. I looked at 1st and 3rd
Thanks

minimalista · 10 May 2016, 11:46 PM

Thanks to everyone who responded!

Jim

9 May 2016, 12:03 PM	#1
minimalista "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Arizona Posts: 21	Does this GMT Master II look correct? Hello Everyone, A local pawnshop is offering a Rolex GMT Master II with an F serial number which I am considering. I've only seen two of these watches in person and don't want to make a mistake . Do the bezel and bezel insert look correct for this vintage watch? All of the photos that I have seen online seem to indicate a matte finish on the scalloped bezel edges, and serif fonts on the bezel insert. This watch has polished bezel edges and the insert does not have serif fonts. Otherwise everything about the watch looks authentic to me. Thanks in advance for any insight. Jim

9 May 2016, 02:32 PM	#5
minimalista "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Arizona Posts: 21	Hi Gladiator and KirkSingleton, Thank you for your expertise and for taking the time to post. Gladiator, how can you tell? Kirk, I looked at the full sized photos and can clearly see the etched crown at 6:00. Thanks for pointing that out! I wonder if the edge of the bezel may have been polished when the watch was serviced? I've studied dozens of photos of similar vintage GMT Master II on the Rolex Brand sales section and have not seen a single watch that had a polished bezel ring. I did find one other F series with a similar font on the bezel insert. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts on this. Jim Last edited by minimalista; 9 May 2016 at 02:33 PM.. Reason: Spelling error.

9 May 2016, 09:07 PM	#9
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,157	Looks ok from what I can see Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

9 May 2016, 12:46 PM	#2
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	Hi What I can confirm, is movement will be genuine A

9 May 2016, 01:48 PM	#3
kirksingleton "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,759	I think it looks good! It will have the etched crown in the crystal, at 6:00, if you have a loop to check it. Interested to know what movement is in it!

9 May 2016, 02:19 PM	#4
minimalista "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Arizona Posts: 21	Hi Gladiator and kirksingleton, Thank you both for your information and for taking the time to post. Gladiator, how can you tell? Kirk, I looked at the full size versions of the photos and can clearly see the etched crown at 6:00. Thanks for pointing that out! I'm wondering if the top of the bezel ring may have been polished when the watch was serviced? After looking at dozens of photos of similar vintage watches in the Rolex Sale section I found at least one F serial (2004) watch with a Pepsi insert that has this type of font. None of the watches I've seen online seem to have a polished bezel ring. Is there anything else that I should look for? Thanks again, Jim

9 May 2016, 02:47 PM	#7
kirksingleton "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,759	Yes, I saw the crown in your shots. Your watch appears to be shiney overall but that could just be the last owner polishing it themselves. The watch looks good to me. How much is it?

9 May 2016, 11:28 PM	#11
minimalista "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Arizona Posts: 21	Hello Everyone, Gladiator, the etched crown is visible in the full size version of the second photo. Not sure you can see it on the posted pic. Kirk, thank you for posting your photo. Your watch looks like it has a matte finish. The one I am looking seems to much more reflective. How hard is is to replace the bezel insert? I've seen youtube videos that make it look easy. But I am wary of breaking the assembly. The shop is asking around $5200 for the watch. It was offered for a little less but I was told that the price was only good until the next day. David, thanks for your insight. Best, Jim

10 May 2016, 01:37 AM	#12
kirksingleton "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,759	mine looks matte because I had just hit it with a green pad. Easy to swap insert, I think. I was able to get mine out fine and am waiting for the mail to bring me the pepsi to snap in. $5100 is a good price for that watch. I see your concern with the polish but it wouldn't bother me at all. As long as the seller is reputable I wouldn't have any concerns. Does it have box and papers? Many don't these days, not a deal breaker. I think you could buy it, wear it and always get all of your money back out later if you want. Good luck!

10 May 2016, 11:46 PM	#14
minimalista "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Arizona Posts: 21	Thanks to everyone who responded! Jim

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