Rare Paul Newman Daytona on eBay right now.

[Kingsking]

Originally Posted by Juhuatai

Normally I would say asking him to pay for service costs is a little extraneous as the watches are clearly sold as is...

However, in this case, given how much of a scammer he is, I say carry on!

Well the way i look at it he sells a lot of watches, expensive ones too so he has a basic understanding of how they function etc , he would have been well aware the date didnt turn over and didnt disclose that in the discription. If he had disclosed it i can promise it would have affected the final sale price.

[Wahlberg]

Originally Posted by Kingsking

Well the way i look at it he sells a lot of watches, expensive ones too so he has a basic understanding of how they function etc , he would have been well aware the date didnt turn over and didnt disclose that in the discription. If he had disclosed it i can promise it would have affected the final sale price.

Could you post some pictures?

[Kingsking]

Originally Posted by Wahlberg

Could you post some pictures?

I dont have it right now its with the matchmaker already but when i get it back in about 3 weeks ill post some pictures, its a decent example.

[MILGAUSS88]

Originally Posted by Kingsking

Well the way i look at it he sells a lot of watches, expensive ones too so he has a basic understanding of how they function etc , he would have been well aware the date didnt turn over and didnt disclose that in the discription. If he had disclosed it i can promise it would have affected the final sale price.

Well the way I look at it, you got it at a discount because he expressly sold it as is.
All the other bidders were aware of that, and there bids reflect that.

There are sellers that give a warranty with there watches. But expect to pay a premium.

[oysterquartz17000]

Originally Posted by MILGAUSS88

Well the way I look at it, you got it at a discount because he expressly sold it as is.
All the other bidders were aware of that, and there bids reflect that.

There are sellers that give a warranty with there watches. But expect to pay a premium.

Yes I would be surprised if he pays for a service.

[Kingsking]

Originally Posted by MILGAUSS88

Well the way I look at it, you got it at a discount because he expressly sold it as is.
All the other bidders were aware of that, and there bids reflect that.

There are sellers that give a warranty with there watches. But expect to pay a premium.

Agree, except he has it listed in working condition and it doesnt work ,Date wont change.

[Dan S]

Most likely a watchmaker will readily address the date rollover issue during a regular service at negligible incremental cost.

[oinkitt]

Originally Posted by Juhuatai

Normally I would say asking him to pay for service costs is a little extraneous as the watches are clearly sold as is...

However, in this case, given how much of a scammer he is, I say carry on!

Id sue you if I was the vender!!!

Some of the posters on this thread are living in a dream world!!!

[1665fan]

Originally Posted by oysterquartz17000

Yes I would be surprised if he pays for a service.

Been longer than 2 days....I got 100$ he doesn’t care or pay for aervice

[Styles Bitchley]

Originally Posted by oinkitt

Id sue you if I was the vender!!!



Some of the posters on this thread are living in a dream world!!!

Lol. You’d have a hard time with that here in Canada. Courts don’t have time for frivolous things up here. That said, there’s no evidence that he’s a scammer. Probably just unscrupulous.

[Juhuatai]

I am just referring to his atrocious offers for unsuspecting people who are selling them their watch. The poor guy who sold him the Paul Newman probably didn’t even get $1000.

[Kingsking]

Originally Posted by 1665fan

Been longer than 2 days....I got 100$ he doesn’t care or pay for aervice

Just got the refund today

[1665fan]

Got lucky there....one time he had a 5mill serial meters first red sub for sale

[btinl]

Originally Posted by Kingsking

Just got the refund today

Did he cover the full cost of service?

[Kingsking]

Originally Posted by btinl

Did he cover the full cost of service?

$300 USD refund , so yes enough to cover the service cost.

[oysterquartz17000]

Originally Posted by Kingsking

$300 USD refund , so yes enough to cover the service cost.

Well done, good outcome. You will have to post some photos once its back and on your wrist.

[gtnator]

Originally Posted by shawndww

I already explained his source. Tours the country with a flyer in every single mailbox. Has been for years. Buys tens of thousands of pieces some are watches. He spends zero time on the item and let’s the simple picture decide. Not a perfect model but he seems content with his margin

I

Does he verify for fakes?


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[Dan S]

Originally Posted by gtnator

Does he verify for fakes?

It has already been mentioned above, that this seller's expertise appears to be somewhat limited, and that he also doesn't inspect watches very carefully. By eBay rules, you can always return a fake, but you should certainly perform your own due diligence.

[gtnator]

Originally Posted by Dan S

It has already been mentioned above, that this seller's expertise appears to be somewhat limited, and that he also doesn't inspect watches very carefully. By eBay rules, you can always return a fake, but you should certainly perform your own due diligence.

Thanks. Do EBay’s rules have a price limit? They would enforce a $400k return, if it was fake? If yes, I wonder how much effort and money they would be willing to put into suing and getting the money back?


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[Kingsking]

Got this is the mail today , looks like he has another mass buying setup :). I found out he has a website and his google reviews are horrible , set aside the fake reviews from friends and employees and its probably about a 1 star average. All sorts of accusations, fake watches, rigged scales,lying to sellers etc.

edit: Don't know why the photos turned sideways

[Styles Bitchley]

It’s an interesting business model. I wonder if doing it this way allows him to skirt around the rules pawn shops have to follow (to help ensure items aren’t stolen).

[Kingsking]

Originally Posted by Styles Bitchley

It’s an interesting business model. I wonder if doing it this way allows him to skirt around the rules pawn shops have to follow (to help ensure items aren’t stolen).

even pawn shops skirt around the rules, im sure this guy does.

[1665fan]

Thief!!!

[bayareabuggs]

Originally Posted by 1665fan

Thief!!!

Just imagine how many people has has robbed of really valuable items over the years. Its like a city wide shakedown.

[oinkitt]

Originally Posted by 1665fan

Thief!!!

Do you know how much those adds would cost him... probably 20k each.

He/she is doing legitimate legal business.

I would sue you if I was him!!!

[Claven2]

I get these flyers in my mail 5 or more times a year. This setup is a total scam aimed at separating seniors who still think in terms of 1970's prices from their valuables. The people that go to these events are trying to get a few bucks to make next month's payment to assisted living providers (and the like).

It may not be illegal, but it is reprehensible. Pawn shops offer better prices than this charlatan, from what I can tell.

[Kingsking]

Looks like our sketchy friend is back again, fresh off a buying spree and with a totally new eBay name and some real nice watches for sale.


https://www.ebay.ca/sch/gidgi33/m.ht...p2047675.l2562

[1665fan]

Yup those are his black background pics for sure....

[southtexas]

Holy crap, 35 pages of listings??!!!


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[offrdmania]

I like how he separated the bracelets from all the watches