All blue GMT fake

[xelor63]

It seems Rolex never made a all blue GMT insert!





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[037]

Sacré bleu!

[exador]

Nice find!

Someone better tell Jacek
https://www.hqmilton.com/timepieces/search?q=Blueberry+

[BigBlue1]

Oh Boy. Let the fists fly.

[Juhuatai]

I don’t think that’s what the letter says. With my rudimentary French i read this as “to our knowledge the 1675 did not come with a blue bezel.” But aren’t blueberrys supposed to be service inserts or special order and never officially available? That would be in line with their statement. Doesn’t mean blueberry inserts are fake.

[TimeLord2]

Originally Posted by 037

Sacré bleu!

Hahahhahaa!

[Filipão]

... "we inform you that to the best of our knowledge, ROLEX has never produced GMT's ref. 1675 with an all blue insert."

Et voilá.

[HarryLime]

Can't believe people are still arguing about this.

[Dlf]

“To the best of our knowledge” means they don’t have a badgers.

[athom]

That's known since quite a long time that no 1675 ever has been sold with a complete blue inlay...

[JustinK]

Orchi has been pushing this on Instagram for some time. I have not seen a dealer respond yet as many of the top vintage dealers have sold them.

This can't be the first time someone serviced a 1675 with a Blueberry, does the letter refuse service due to the insert or just generally comment on the blueberry insert? It would be helpful if someone was able to translate the entire letter.

[BigBlue1]

We know Rolex never produced a watch with a all blue insert. It is interesting though that a Rolex service center says it knows nothing about them as one would think they would know at least something about them being made as a service insert and or being made by Rolex. If it was a genuine Rolex insert wouldn’t they have record or recollection of there own items pertaining to genuine Rolex Parts. Right? No?

[xelor63]

Originally Posted by BigBlue1

We know Rolex never produced a watch with a all blue insert. It is interesting though that a Rolex service center says it knows nothing about them as one would think they would know at least something about them being made as a service insert and or being made by Rolex. If it was a genuine Rolex insert wouldn’t they have record or recollection of there own items pertaining to genuine Rolex Parts. Right? No?

Just a story made up by some vintage dealers!

XELOR


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[Paulie 50]

I never ever thought they did.

[Filipão]

From Wadesdah to the world, here it goes:

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Geneva, October 28th 2019

Ref. Rolex 1675 #5172609


Sir,

We refer to your letter dated past October 17th that deserved our utmost attention.

Answering your question concerning your watch insert's colour, we inform you that to the best of our knowledge, ROLEX has never produced GMT's ref. 1675 with an all blue insert.

Meanwhile, the picture you've transmitted us does not allow to clearly distinguish between what you call to be a blue insert and a black insert, whose colour might have faded with time.

Remaining at your service for all complementary information, we ask you to receive, Sir, our best regards.

Isabelle Humm

Unquote

[037]

Originally Posted by BigBlue1

If it was a genuine Rolex insert wouldn’t they have record or recollection of there own items pertaining to genuine Rolex Parts. Right? No?

Rolex contracted parts manufacturing in those days. It's certainly possible that the company who made that style of insert also produced a batch in full blue and released them to market on their own. Rolex wouldn't have to have sanctioned it but the inserts would be "genuine" (per se) despite never being issued with watches from the factory.

Originally Posted by TimeLord2

Hahahhahaa!

Glad someone got that.

[Filipão]

Originally Posted by athom

That's known since quite a long time that no 1675 ever has been sold with a complete blue inlay...

Did I pass my French test?

[Filipão]

Originally Posted by 037

Glad someone got that.

He he he!!! Pas pour tout le monde, oui...

[037]

Originally Posted by Filipão

He he he!!! Pas pour tout le monde, oui...

Haha, true.

[xelor63]

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[BigBlue1]

If that is your insert Database there are quite a few missing.

[JustinK]

Originally Posted by Filipão

From Wadesdah to the world, here it goes:

Quote


Geneva, October 28th 2019

Ref. Rolex 1675 #5172609


Sir,

We refer to your letter dated past October 17th that deserved our utmost attention.

Answering your question concerning your watch insert's colour, we inform you that to the best of our knowledge, ROLEX has never produced GMT's ref. 1675 with an all blue insert.

Meanwhile, the picture you've transmitted us does not allow to clearly distinguish between what you call to be a blue insert and a black insert, whose colour might have faded with time.

Remaining at your service for all complementary information, we ask you to receive, Sir, our best regards.

Isabelle Humm

Unquote

Thank you sir!

So I hardly think this is proof the Blueberry is not an authentic insert. The part that states “to the best of our knowledge” makes me wonder why this Rolex employee would put something in writing if they were not sure.

I think the debate will go on.

[springer]

How do we know the Humm letter from Rolex is real? It should be very easy to verify it since it has only been four weeks since it was written.
The letter is signed:

Isabelle Humm
Relations Clients

It shouldn't be too hard to verify whether there is a Isabelle Humm working public relations at Rolex and whether or not she knows anything about this GMT blue bezel insert letter written by her making the rounds on the internet forums.

[BigBlue1]

Originally Posted by springer

How do we know the Humm letter from Rolex is real? It should be very easy to verify it since it has only been four weeks since it was written.
The letter is signed:

Isabelle Humm
Relations Clients

It shouldn't be too hard to verify whether there is a Isabelle Humm working public relations at Rolex and whether or not she knows anything about this GMT blue bezel insert letter written by her making the rounds on the internet forums.

I stand by Johns statement.

[xelor63]

Originally Posted by BigBlue1

If that is your insert Database there are quite a few missing.

I know, but the 1675LB you will not find in any Rolex insert database!


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[1675-David]

A fuzzy image of a letter picked up on the internet is hardly conclusive proof...

[xelor63]

Originally Posted by 1675-David

A fuzzy image of a letter picked up on the internet is hardly conclusive proof...

Nothing fuzzy about that letter!

XELOR


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[1675-David]

Originally Posted by xelor63

Nothing fuzzy about that letter!

XELOR


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I'm talking about the image posted here and on Instagram, I'm not talking about the content

An out of focus image used to prove the authenticity of anything is generally regarded as the first sign that something is not right. If this letter were to appear for sale on E-Bay, would you buy it? I wouldn't

[joli160]

The whole Blueberry myth is something you have no choice but to believe if you invested a lot of money in it

[roh123]

This doesn’t really change much. Those that were skeptic will continue to be and those invested in or just want to believe it will still find ways to believe. We still have never seen these inserts in any sales material or photos from the 70’s. We have however seen all the fabled watch versions which nowdays have these inserts with standard pepsis back in the days. If the all blue inserts are real, service parts or even fake? Who knows.. They will continue to be around and each and every one of us will have to decide what we think. They will not go away just because a Rolex employee sent someone a letter that Rolex, to this persons knowledge, never produced it.

They are not likely to drop in price. The only thing that may happen is that they become harder to sell. Owners are not likely to value them less just because this new ’find’. They were questioned before and they will continue to be questioned in the future. I’m sure there’s still buyers for these as long as no one can prove them to be fake.