Your thoughts on this 1675 pepsi from 1974

[zapokee]

I have an eye on this never-polished 1675 pepsi from 1974:

http://d.hatena.ne.jp/CORLEONE/20130721/1374394109

A few questions for the experts:

1. The plots have some blackening from the action of the tritium. Is this deterioration likely to advance over time, or would it be finished because the tritium is now spent?

2. Does the blackening affect the value of the watch, either positively or negatively?

3. Would this have originally been on a jubilee bracelet?

4. The price is approx. USD 6,600. Your thoughts?

Thanks for any help!

[swimmingfox]

My thoughts...it's beautiful

[joe100]

Sorry I'm mobile right now so the pics are small, but is that water damage ? Also, $6.6 is a little high.

[mdw3]

Nice case. Service dial is a bummer, and a value loss.

Michael

[zapokee]

Originally Posted by mdw3

Nice case. Service dial is a bummer, and a value loss.

Michael

Thanks for the input. I hadn't considered that it might be a service dial... Can I ask why you think it is?

[springer]

Originally Posted by zapokee

Thanks for the input. I hadn't considered that it might be a service dial... Can I ask why you think it is?

It is a late 1970's GMT dial. Some believe it was also used as a service dial too as it seems to show up on other GMT's from the early 1970's and even on some 1960's models. I would not consider it correct for the serial number you indicated, but others might. It is your decision.

The below pics are definite service dials for the 1675 GMT.

[springer]

Originally Posted by zapokee

I have an eye on this never-polished 1675 pepsi from 1974:

http://d.hatena.ne.jp/CORLEONE/20130721/1374394109

A few questions for the experts:

1. The plots have some blackening from the action of the tritium. Is this deterioration likely to advance over time, or would it be finished because the tritium is now spent?

2. Does the blackening affect the value of the watch, either positively or negatively?

3. Would this have originally been on a jubilee bracelet?

4. The price is approx. USD 6,600. Your thoughts?

Thanks for any help!

It looks like a fairly nice dial. A little early for that dial in my opinion - it looks more like the late 1970's dial but who knows for sure, it does appear to be substantially aged. The GMT's did come on a Jubilee bracelet. The price could be less but it is close.

[Billywiz]

I think it looks great...

[mdw3]

Originally Posted by zapokee

Thanks for the input. I hadn't considered that it might be a service dial... Can I ask why you think it is?

That dial is not for a watch from 1974. It was the last tritium dial produced for 1675, and was primarily employed in the service department, until they ran out and began to supply luminova dials instead.

Michael

[springer]

Originally Posted by mdw3

That dial is not for a watch from 1974. It was the last tritium dial produced for 1675, and was primarily employed in the service department, until they ran out and began to supply luminova dials instead.

Michael

Michael, I've been researching this Mark X service dial for a while now, and I'm going to do a post on it when I finish up with everything. I think we are on the same page concerning this dial.

While the Mark X dials might have been service dials, they were installed on regular GMT's at the end of production during the 1970's. The exact same coronet is found on the early GMT 16750 matte dials which to me indicates a continuation of this dial. I have seen this dial on GMT 1675's as early as 517XXXX serial numbers. (I have also seen a couple late 1970's GMT's with the Mark II dial.) Personally, I do not prefer to call it a service dial since it was a regular production dial for 1675's. I have placed photos in this thread of GMT 1675 service dials. I believe this "urban myth" of the service or Mark X dial was started by Orchi a few years ago. I find this service dial myth to be very similar to the GMT II "error dial," in that it has been around for so long that everyone thinks it is true.

Since I have never worked for Rolex, I can only base my assumptions on what I have seen on the various GMT's. Nobody that I know can say for sure when one dials production ended and another replaced it. A good estimate is as close anyone can get.

[skprd13]

John tells it like it is? No messing around. If you have any doubts I would trust the man that knows his GMT's!
Tom

[TimeToGo]

Well said John!

[zapokee]

Originally Posted by springer

Michael, I've been researching this Mark X service dial for a while now, and I'm going to do a post on it when I finish up with everything. I think we are on the same page concerning this dial.

While the Mark X dials might have been service dials, they were installed on regular GMT's at the end of production during the 1970's. The exact same coronet is found on the early GMT 16750 matte dials which to me indicates a continuation of this dial. I have seen this dial on GMT 1675's as early as 517XXXX serial numbers. (I have also seen a couple late 1970's GMT's with the Mark II dial.) Personally, I do not prefer to call it a service dial since it was a regular production dial for 1675's. I have placed photos in this thread of GMT 1675 service dials. I believe this "urban myth" of the service or Mark X dial was started by Orchi a few years ago. I find this service dial myth to be very similar to the GMT II "error dial," in that it has been around for so long that everyone thinks it is true.

Since I have never worked for Rolex, I can only base my assumptions on what I have seen on the various GMT's. Nobody that I know can say for sure when one dials production ended and another replaced it. A good estimate is as close anyone can get.

Thanks to everyone for the great input.

So John, to clarify, you agree that this dial isn't original to the watch? Even if that's the case, I'm still very tempted by it....

[Vincent65]

Looks great to me

[katana]

I think it looks good. Then I looked at his other bells, very beautiful. A little more expensive than in the EU