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VaRobot · 23 March 2016, 08:19 PM

Update:

Watch was shipped from AD to RSC Pennsylvania yesterday.

VaRobot · 31 March 2016, 08:38 PM

Update:

RSC Pennsylvania called AD Richmond, AD Richmond called me. Rolex Service Center needed non-refundable authorization ($500.00) to evaluate the watch, research parts availability and determine what was needed.

I authorized.

RSC will call AD in 20 business days with update and to get my approval for recommended work.

joli160 · 31 March 2016, 08:52 PM

Think it is wise to get the job scope in writing from your AD before giving the green light

VaRobot · 31 March 2016, 09:45 PM

Thanks!

swish77 · 1 April 2016, 12:30 AM

Wow, $500 that is non-refundable just for an estimate/evaluation? Crazy. Last time I went to the RSC in NYC, about three years ago, they wanted $150 to evaluate my 5512. I walked. Still, if you're committed to this RSC, presumably the $500 goes toward the final service cost. Good luck.

VaRobot · 1 April 2016, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swish77

Wow, $500 that is non-refundable just for an estimate/evaluation? Crazy. Last time I went to the RSC in NYC, about three years ago, they wanted $150 to evaluate my 5512. I walked. Still, if you're committed to this RSC, presumably the $500 goes toward the final service cost. Good luck.

I guess they don't want to spend the time researching what it needs and parts availability only to have me possibly say "Forget it". I understand.

Thanks, the 500 will be credited into the final work. Hopefully they can do the work, LOL.

Yeah, I'm committed to RSC, unless they end up not being able to help me.

I would have a stroke if I sent my Red Sub to an individual and all of a sudden I couldn't get in touch with them. Too many eggs in one basket for my Red Sub comfort level.

05carbondrz · 1 April 2016, 02:46 AM

The top independent Watckmakers would never steal a Watch.Their Business would be closed within a Month,Word travels fast on the Internet and they know it.

VaRobot · 1 April 2016, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 05carbondrz

The top independent Watckmakers would never steal a Watch.Their Business would be closed within a Month,Word travels fast on the Internet and they know it.

I'm not talking about theft, I'm talking about illness, simple error, or a multitude of other things,(or excuses), that make a single individual an example of all the eggs in one basket.

If I have to go that route I may, but I'm not comfortable doing it. To each their own..........

JP Chestnut · 1 April 2016, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VaRobot

I'm not talking about theft, I'm talking about illness, simple error, or a multitude of other things,(or excuses), that make a single individual an example of all the eggs in one basket.

If I have to go that route I may, but I'm not comfortable doing it. To each their own..........

I'd much rather deal with someone possibly getting sick, than deal with the receptionist reading my note and then forgetting to pass it along to the technician who actually works on the watch. No matter, you made your choice and I hope it works out well for you.

Kingface66 · 1 April 2016, 03:30 AM

When he says "independent watchmakers", I'm inclined to believe he's referring to trusted and valued places like ABC Watchwerks (rather than some guy working out of his living room or something!). These places are world renowned and, to vintage collectors, provide a valuable service.
Cheers.

VaRobot · 1 April 2016, 03:36 AM

Thanks for the input guys, Ill see how RSC goes, and adjust course if need be.

05carbondrz · 1 April 2016, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingface66

When he says "independent watchmakers", I'm inclined to believe he's referring to trusted and valued places like ABC Watchwerks (rather than some guy working out of his living room or something!). These places are world renowned and, to vintage collectors, provide a valuable service.
Cheers.

Yes,I am talking about ABC,Riki,Vanessa,etc.

southtexas · 1 April 2016, 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 05carbondrz

The top independent Watckmakers would never steal a Watch.Their Business would be closed within a Month,Word travels fast on the Internet and they know it.

Never say never!

JP Chestnut · 2 April 2016, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southtexas

Never say never!

People thought steve mulholland was a great guy... Once upon a time.

VaRobot · 20 April 2016, 08:11 PM

Update:

AD called last night. RSC Pennsylvania says, Fixing stem and Service cost is $2100.00

I said no thanks. Send the watch back and Ill pay the $500.00 I already agreed to.

$2100.00 to fix a stem and do a service is a bit steep, correct?

I may take the watch here when I get it back:

http://watchandpen.com/id76.html

DKS2375 · 20 April 2016, 11:21 PM

Yes,I am talking about ABC,Riki,Vanessa,etc.

X2

The above is the only way to go. I have used one of the above previously and received a phone call directly from that person regarding what parts and service was needed before any work was started. You will be very pleased with the work of any of them.

VaRobot · 20 April 2016, 11:41 PM

Thanks

HERITAGE82 · 20 April 2016, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VaRobot

Update:

AD called last night. RSC Pennsylvania says, Fixing stem and Service cost is $2100.00

I said no thanks. Send the watch back and Ill pay the $500.00 I already agreed to.

$2100.00 to fix a stem and do a service is a bit steep, correct?

I may take the watch here when I get it back:

http://watchandpen.com/id76.html

So it cost you $500 to have them open and inspect your watch?...ouch

That is an expensive lesson learned.

JustinK · 20 April 2016, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VaRobot

Update:

AD called last night. RSC Pennsylvania says, Fixing stem and Service cost is $2100.00

I said no thanks. Send the watch back and Ill pay the $500.00 I already agreed to.

$2100.00 to fix a stem and do a service is a bit steep, correct?

I may take the watch here when I get it back:

http://watchandpen.com/id76.html

Ouch that is crazy. You could have had a service completed for the $500 from some independents.

I would make sure this watchmaker has a Rolex parts account, if they don't find someone local who does. They might do a great job but if they can't get genuine parts what are they using?

Good Luck!

brettpaul · 21 April 2016, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texex91

x2

And once again mate - NO BUFFING at all is what I would request, on penalty of

VaRobot · 21 April 2016, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HERITAGE82

So it cost you $500 to have them open and inspect your watch?...ouch

That is an expensive lesson learned.

Yeah Buddy

Watchflair · 21 April 2016, 12:51 AM

John - this is a tough call.

I know that you want the experience and know how of RSC but just be sure to that you are 100% clear in what you want done. Even then I would be nervous bc you are not dealing with them directly but through a third party. Kind of like when you tell a story and its goes around the table and changes from person to person.

I personally would prefer to deal directly with the person completing the repair. This way you are 100% that there is no confusion or different interpretation of your wishes.

Light buff is too subjective and open to interpretation in my opinion.

Also, one thing worth putting out there. Use the TRF community for what it's for: advice from people who have been there done that. Learn from others mistakes. It seems the vast majority of people in this thread are recommending using an independent and there's a reason for that. Do a little more research and make sure you are making the best decision possible with whom you choose to entrust this heirloom.

Watchflair · 21 April 2016, 01:01 AM

What a second...... THEY CHARGED YOU $500 TO INSPECT THE WATCH ?!?!?!?!?!?!?

There's no way. Is the AD charging you that or RSC?

Kingface66 · 21 April 2016, 01:07 AM

Five hundred non-refundable dollars?? And for no work done?? Good lord, that is an hard hit. I'm really sorry, man.
And in re. to the link you posted about maybe taking it to that local guy (Watchandpen.com) why not just take the advice of so many on here and send it to one of the recommended experts, like ABC?

VaRobot · 21 April 2016, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingface66

Five hundred non-refundable dollars?? And for no work done?? Good lord, that is an hard hit. I'm really sorry, man.
And in re. to the link you posted about maybe taking it to that local guy (Watchandpen.com) why not just take the advice of so many on here and send it to one of the recommended experts, like ABC?

Mailing my heirloom across the country to someone I have never met makes me nervous as hell. Especially with regard to some recent "events". At least I can look this guy in the eye and he is only minutes away from my work.

VaRobot · 21 April 2016, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchflair

what a second...... They charged you $500 to inspect the watch ?!?!?!?!?!?!?

There's no way. Is the ad charging you that or rsc?

rsc..............

31 March 2016, 08:52 PM	#33
joli160 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,352	Think it is wise to get the job scope in writing from your AD before giving the green light __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

21 April 2016, 12:51 AM	#52
Watchflair 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Jim Location: Westchester NY Watch: 116500 116518LN Posts: 5,876	John - this is a tough call. I know that you want the experience and know how of RSC but just be sure to that you are 100% clear in what you want done. Even then I would be nervous bc you are not dealing with them directly but through a third party. Kind of like when you tell a story and its goes around the table and changes from person to person. I personally would prefer to deal directly with the person completing the repair. This way you are 100% that there is no confusion or different interpretation of your wishes. Light buff is too subjective and open to interpretation in my opinion. Also, one thing worth putting out there. Use the TRF community for what it's for: advice from people who have been there done that. Learn from others mistakes. It seems the vast majority of people in this thread are recommending using an independent and there's a reason for that. Do a little more research and make sure you are making the best decision possible with whom you choose to entrust this heirloom. __________________ Remember what matters. Value everyday

21 April 2016, 01:01 AM	#53
Watchflair 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Jim Location: Westchester NY Watch: 116500 116518LN Posts: 5,876	What a second...... THEY CHARGED YOU $500 TO INSPECT THE WATCH ?!?!?!?!?!?!? There's no way. Is the AD charging you that or RSC? __________________ Remember what matters. Value everyday

23 March 2016, 08:19 PM	#31
VaRobot "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Real Name: John Location: I'm Done Watch: Mark IV Red Sub Posts: 854	Update: Watch was shipped from AD to RSC Pennsylvania yesterday.

31 March 2016, 08:38 PM	#32
VaRobot "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Real Name: John Location: I'm Done Watch: Mark IV Red Sub Posts: 854	Update: RSC Pennsylvania called AD Richmond, AD Richmond called me. Rolex Service Center needed non-refundable authorization ($500.00) to evaluate the watch, research parts availability and determine what was needed. I authorized. RSC will call AD in 20 business days with update and to get my approval for recommended work.

31 March 2016, 09:45 PM	#34
VaRobot "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Real Name: John Location: I'm Done Watch: Mark IV Red Sub Posts: 854	Thanks!

1 April 2016, 12:30 AM	#35
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,791	Wow, $500 that is non-refundable just for an estimate/evaluation? Crazy. Last time I went to the RSC in NYC, about three years ago, they wanted $150 to evaluate my 5512. I walked. Still, if you're committed to this RSC, presumably the $500 goes toward the final service cost. Good luck.

1 April 2016, 02:46 AM	#37
05carbondrz Banned Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,030	The top independent Watckmakers would never steal a Watch.Their Business would be closed within a Month,Word travels fast on the Internet and they know it.

1 April 2016, 03:30 AM	#40
Kingface66 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: The Empire State Watch: 1966 Rolex 5513 Posts: 3,419	When he says "independent watchmakers", I'm inclined to believe he's referring to trusted and valued places like ABC Watchwerks (rather than some guy working out of his living room or something!). These places are world renowned and, to vintage collectors, provide a valuable service. Cheers.

1 April 2016, 03:36 AM	#41
VaRobot "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Real Name: John Location: I'm Done Watch: Mark IV Red Sub Posts: 854	Thanks for the input guys, Ill see how RSC goes, and adjust course if need be.

20 April 2016, 08:11 PM	#45
VaRobot "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Real Name: John Location: I'm Done Watch: Mark IV Red Sub Posts: 854	Update: AD called last night. RSC Pennsylvania says, Fixing stem and Service cost is $2100.00 I said no thanks. Send the watch back and Ill pay the $500.00 I already agreed to. $2100.00 to fix a stem and do a service is a bit steep, correct? I may take the watch here when I get it back: http://watchandpen.com/id76.html

20 April 2016, 11:21 PM	#46
DKS2375 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Ken Location: New Mexico Watch: GMT & DJ Posts: 412	Yes,I am talking about ABC,Riki,Vanessa,etc. X2 The above is the only way to go. I have used one of the above previously and received a phone call directly from that person regarding what parts and service was needed before any work was started. You will be very pleased with the work of any of them.

20 April 2016, 11:41 PM	#47
VaRobot "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Real Name: John Location: I'm Done Watch: Mark IV Red Sub Posts: 854	Thanks

21 April 2016, 01:07 AM	#54
Kingface66 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: The Empire State Watch: 1966 Rolex 5513 Posts: 3,419	Five hundred non-refundable dollars?? And for no work done?? Good lord, that is an hard hit. I'm really sorry, man. And in re. to the link you posted about maybe taking it to that local guy (Watchandpen.com) why not just take the advice of so many on here and send it to one of the recommended experts, like ABC?

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