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stgo2019 · 21 April 2016, 08:08 AM

Hello all,
I ran across this today at a vintage watch shop. The price seems reasonable and to it looks legit. Although I don't have any experience with Rolex....

I know it's a crappy cell pic but it has a very nice patina, runs, and appears to be in great shape. Assuming it's real, what is the ball park value? I'm actually searching for a vintage Speedmaster but this may disway me...depending on your opinion I'll go back and get more details.
Thanks!
Matt

Oh, he also has a vintage GMT Master, with a nicely faded bezel... Not sure of the value on that either..

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Haywood_Milton · 21 April 2016, 08:47 AM

Looks like one of the first sapphire glass models, a 16660.

Dial condition is very important to value.

Glass nibbled at upper edge? That's expensive to replace, with a Rolex service!

If it has no original numbered COSC certificate and the dial shows its age then I would suggest something like £4,000 might be reasonable on these shores. A better dial, better condition watch with papers could be half as much again.

Haywood M

stgo2019 · 21 April 2016, 09:12 AM

Thanks Haywood!
Yes, the crystal has a rough spot between the 12 and 1 position. The dial is in great faded shape, the case is in good condition as well. I didn't get into a lot of detail with him about it. I was mainly looking for vintage Omegas and asked to look at this one real quick.
His price is a little under what you think it might be worth.. I could likely talk him down a little more..
I'll go by again in a few days and inquire further.

Haywood_Milton · 21 April 2016, 09:44 AM

Play on the points mentioned and the bracelet if it is loose and has a lot of play, as it may well do, looking at the photo.

Bon chance!

Haywood

05carbondrz · 21 April 2016, 09:59 AM

Hands look a little light,May be the Picture?

Suboc · 21 April 2016, 10:02 AM

Born and raised in El Paso. Looks like it could be a nice piece. Good luck

stgo2019 · 21 April 2016, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Suboc

Born and raised in El Paso. Looks like it could be a nice piece. Good luck

One of the last few interesting cities left in Texas....barely! I love telling people how great El Paso is, especially the food, and I'm not talking about Mexican food! Although that is good too. The only thing I could do without is the "windy season."

When I go back I'll get a lot more info and better pics. I'll also get info and pics of the GMT MASTER he has.

DKS2375 · 21 April 2016, 08:46 PM

Just down the road from you both....go Aggies!

swish77 · 22 April 2016, 12:15 AM

Hard to tell for sure based on that one fuzzy photo, but I'd say that case has been polished too much, and not very well. The lower right lug looks very thin. Also, the hands have definitely been replaced at some point, hence the mismatched patina, and some of the hour markers look as if they're missing chunks of tritium. Regardless of the price, all those issues would bug me. Again, better photos would help. Good luck either way.

21 April 2016, 08:08 AM	#1
stgo2019 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: El Paso, TX Posts: 24	Vintage Sea Dweller question Hello all, I ran across this today at a vintage watch shop. The price seems reasonable and to it looks legit. Although I don't have any experience with Rolex.... I know it's a crappy cell pic but it has a very nice patina, runs, and appears to be in great shape. Assuming it's real, what is the ball park value? I'm actually searching for a vintage Speedmaster but this may disway me...depending on your opinion I'll go back and get more details. Thanks! Matt Oh, he also has a vintage GMT Master, with a nicely faded bezel... Not sure of the value on that either.. [IMG][/IMG]

21 April 2016, 08:47 AM	#2
Haywood_Milton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Yes, it is ! Location: Cheshire & Mersey Watch: Military issue Sub Posts: 1,319	Looks like one of the first sapphire glass models, a 16660. Dial condition is very important to value. Glass nibbled at upper edge? That's expensive to replace, with a Rolex service! If it has no original numbered COSC certificate and the dial shows its age then I would suggest something like £4,000 might be reasonable on these shores. A better dial, better condition watch with papers could be half as much again. Haywood M __________________ Comex:5513,5514,1665x2,16800x2,16600 Mil sub:5517x2,5513x9,5512 Submariner:6536/1x2,5508,5513 PCG u/line & double SWISS (America's Cup),5513 giltx2, 5513 m-firstx2,5513 gloss WGx2,1680 Red,1680 White Mk1 & Mk2 Sea-Dweller:1665 DRSDx3,Great Whitex3 GMT-Master:6542x2 (1 Bakelite),1675x8 (2 gilt), 16750 & SeaKing 116710LN Explorer:1016x6 (1 gilt),5500x3,14270 Blackout, Orange 1655 x4 Milgauss 1019x3 Cosmo 6263 *RNCD DSSD 116660.

21 April 2016, 09:44 AM	#4
Haywood_Milton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Yes, it is ! Location: Cheshire & Mersey Watch: Military issue Sub Posts: 1,319	Play on the points mentioned and the bracelet if it is loose and has a lot of play, as it may well do, looking at the photo. Bon chance! Haywood __________________ Comex:5513,5514,1665x2,16800x2,16600 Mil sub:5517x2,5513x9,5512 Submariner:6536/1x2,5508,5513 PCG u/line & double SWISS (America's Cup),5513 giltx2, 5513 m-firstx2,5513 gloss WGx2,1680 Red,1680 White Mk1 & Mk2 Sea-Dweller:1665 DRSDx3,Great Whitex3 GMT-Master:6542x2 (1 Bakelite),1675x8 (2 gilt), 16750 & SeaKing 116710LN Explorer:1016x6 (1 gilt),5500x3,14270 Blackout, Orange 1655 x4 Milgauss 1019x3 Cosmo 6263 *RNCD DSSD 116660.

21 April 2016, 10:02 AM	#6
Suboc "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: At my forge Posts: 494	Go Miners! Born and raised in El Paso. Looks like it could be a nice piece. Good luck

21 April 2016, 09:12 AM	#3
stgo2019 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: El Paso, TX Posts: 24	Thanks Haywood! Yes, the crystal has a rough spot between the 12 and 1 position. The dial is in great faded shape, the case is in good condition as well. I didn't get into a lot of detail with him about it. I was mainly looking for vintage Omegas and asked to look at this one real quick. His price is a little under what you think it might be worth.. I could likely talk him down a little more.. I'll go by again in a few days and inquire further.

21 April 2016, 09:59 AM	#5
05carbondrz Banned Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,030	Hands look a little light,May be the Picture?

21 April 2016, 08:46 PM	#8
DKS2375 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Ken Location: New Mexico Watch: GMT & DJ Posts: 411	Just down the road from you both....go Aggies!

22 April 2016, 12:15 AM	#9
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,789	Hard to tell for sure based on that one fuzzy photo, but I'd say that case has been polished too much, and not very well. The lower right lug looks very thin. Also, the hands have definitely been replaced at some point, hence the mismatched patina, and some of the hour markers look as if they're missing chunks of tritium. Regardless of the price, all those issues would bug me. Again, better photos would help. Good luck either way.

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