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Old 28 July 2017, 10:23 AM   #1
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Caliber 3120 accuracy

Just a week into wearing my white diver I've noticed something unusual which has not happened with my Daytona.

Although mechanical movements are known to be far from accurate, they should be gaining or losing at the same rate each day, right?

With my daytona it's consistently at +5 seconds per day, which is fine cause I know it's due for a service but I'm refusing to send it in as if now.

But this is what I have noticed with my diver.

Day 1: +3.5 sec
Day 2: +9 sec
Day 3: + 16 sec

Hm... are these figures alright? Or is it time for a service. It's still under warranty.

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Old 28 July 2017, 10:31 AM   #2
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Is that while wearing, or sitting?
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Old 28 July 2017, 10:41 AM   #3
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My ceramic offshore is a week old today and has run at +.25 seconds a day. Most of the others run -1 to +5.
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Old 28 July 2017, 10:47 AM   #4
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Is that while wearing, or sitting?
Good question Mike! It's actually sitting as I have not been wearing it since Tuesday and today is Friday.

Does it make any difference?

Another thing to note is whether I should lay my watch to rest crown up or down as it's gaining so much.

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Old 28 July 2017, 11:29 AM   #5
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They can speed up as they get closer to the end of the power reserve. I've noticed this a few times with my rotation. Fully wind it or wear it to test accuracy
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Old 28 July 2017, 11:42 AM   #6
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My ro lost about 30s per day even after service
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Old 28 July 2017, 12:03 PM   #7
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They can speed up as they get closer to the end of the power reserve. I've noticed this a few times with my rotation. Fully wind it or wear it to test accuracy


Oh thanks! I'll try that then. How many turns is a full wind on the 3120? Wouldn't wanna over do it.
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Old 28 July 2017, 12:04 PM   #8
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My ro lost about 30s per day even after service


Oh man that's terrible!
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Old 28 July 2017, 01:20 PM   #9
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Oh thanks! I'll try that then. How many turns is a full wind on the 3120? Wouldn't wanna over do it.
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Old 28 July 2017, 05:39 PM   #10
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My ro lost about 30s per day even after service


It kills the fun of wearing a watch if it's accuracy is poor, isn't it?
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Post #12 is epic.
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Old 29 July 2017, 11:39 AM   #12
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Im certainly not a watchmaker but that seems a little off. That being said, I have had watches that "settled" into consistency after wearing it for a few weeks
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Old 30 July 2017, 01:29 AM   #13
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Post #12 is epic.
It really is .
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Old 30 July 2017, 03:39 AM   #14
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Worn everyday, my AP Diver runs within a second a day. However, if I take it off it gets gradually less accurate as the days pass.
Just a characteristic of the 3120 it seems.
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Old 30 July 2017, 08:20 AM   #15
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i have found my 3120's vary in timing more than any other calibre i own depending on resting position.

If i store them crown up at night the variation over a 24 hour period is much less than if i wear it for 24 hours or if i wear it during the day and store at night in any other position besides crown up. They all keep time pretty spot on within a second or two a day that way

For me crown up storage works best as all my 3120's run a bit fast otherwise and that slows it down overnight
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Old 30 July 2017, 08:48 AM   #16
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It really is .


that makes my top 10 list of epic responses. Just might have to add that quote to my signature.
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Old 30 July 2017, 09:39 AM   #17
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i don't think AP focuses on the accuracy of the movement at all, but it is what it's
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Old 31 July 2017, 02:31 AM   #18
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Since getting my 3120, it's run ~ +2sec/day. Not bad, considering AP doesn't claim COSC or in-house cert (like Rolex).
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Old 31 July 2017, 02:58 AM   #19
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i don't think AP focuses on the accuracy of the movement at all, but it is what it's
I felt a little this way a few years ago when the Diver in particular seemed to have quite a lot of timing issues reported here, but the comfort was the quick regulation/service. Haven't seen nearly as many issues here in recent years so thought AP had tightened this up.
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Old 31 July 2017, 10:40 PM   #20
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Caliber 3120, and AP mechanisms in general, are not as accuarate and consistent as Rolex calibers are.
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Old 7 August 2017, 12:25 PM   #21
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I have the same experience as tyler1980 post#15.

Watch storage seems critical as to accuracy. My observations are: crown up...slow, crown down....fast, dial up...least variance.

crown down...positive


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anyone ever notice if you let the chrono run a bit, then pause it to reset it, the second hand jumps like 1-2 seconds really quickly?
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