SS AP messi

[MBI]

Contemplating on pulling a trigger on one. Is it worth the price for a royal oak LE or is the Patek 5711 a better buy? Thanks guys

[PJ S]

Two different watches – one’s a simple 3-hander, the other is a chronograph… which do YOU prefer?
Arguably the tantalum bezel and 500-pieces means there are less of those than there are 5711s knocking about, but it’s the latter which is currently more sought after – although who knows how long that’ll remain the case.

Just go with whichever really lights up your eyes, and enjoy it.

[wach16]

I love the Messi edition but I agree with PJ S. In the end, buy what you like. Both are not terribly easy to get but I personally prefer a chronograph. I am also slightly biased owning a ROC.

[AK797]

The Messi is rarer and more interestingly constructed so I would pick that one if you are on the fence.

[lapince]

Probably the coolest ROC, not a big chrono fan, but that's a very nice chrono

[WWCO]

The question is, which Messi LE are you after?

[rossi46]

Originally Posted by WWCO

The question is, which Messi LE are you after?

Yeah, ref please! I want to google this thing...

[Hairdude1]

Messi is rare but I wold rather have a 5711, now if you have an aquanaut or another simple three hand from Patek then I would do Messi

[Manofsteelpt]

I would take the Messi. Haven't seen one in person, how's the brushed dial on it? It must look great in the sunlight.

[JJ WA]

I may be flamed here, but I would never purchase a watch with the name of a soccer player on it, no matter how awesome the watch looks (and of course this specific LE looks pretty cool). Also, imho part of the ROs and ROCs ‘soul’ lies in the tapisserie dial, which the Messi model lacks. As much as AP continues to innovate and put great new products on the market, to me the 15202ST still holds ground as the nicest AP to own.

As to the comparison with 5711, well... To me the white 5711 is one the most interesting, subtle, understated and stunning watches, so I would certainly favor it over virtually any other pieces out there.

[PJ S]

Originally Posted by Hairdude1

Messi is rare but I wold rather have a 5711, now if you have an aquanaut or another simple three hand from Patek then I would do Messi

Absolutely bonkers…but to each their own.

Originally Posted by Manofsteelpt

I would take the Messi. Haven't seen one in person, how's the brushed dial on it? It must look great in the sunlight.

I’ll let you find photos yourself, but this might be worth watching – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv-ZxczVrNY

[MBI]

Originally Posted by WWCO

The question is, which Messi LE are you after?

Stainless steel version

[MBI]

Originally Posted by PJ S

Absolutely bonkers…but to each their own.


I’ll let you find photos yourself, but this might be worth watching – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv-ZxczVrNY

Thanks! Already watched it. Great review of the watch.

[MBI]

Thanks for all of your opinions and comments.....�� Cheers!

[AK797]

Originally Posted by JJ WA

I may be flamed here, but I would never purchase a watch with the name of a soccer player on it, no matter how awesome the watch looks (and of course this specific LE looks pretty cool). Also, imho part of the ROs and ROCs ‘soul’ lies in the tapisserie dial, which the Messi model lacks. As much as AP continues to innovate and put great new products on the market, to me the 15202ST still holds ground as the nicest AP to own.

As to the comparison with 5711, well... To me the white 5711 is one the most interesting, subtle, understated and stunning watches, so I would certainly favor it over virtually any other pieces out there.

Does that include racing car drivers and all sports stars? If so you would really be limiting yourself for a very arbitrary reason. And interesting that the watch you have picked has been christened the garage door and the toilet seat.

[Manofsteelpt]

Originally Posted by PJ S

Absolutely bonkers…but to each their own.




I’ll let you find photos yourself, but this might be worth watching – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv-ZxczVrNY

I've seen photos, have not seen the watch in person. Thx.

[JJ WA]

Originally Posted by AK797

Does that include racing car drivers and all sports stars? If so you would really be limiting yourself for a very arbitrary reason. And interesting that the watch you have picked has been christened the garage door and the toilet seat.

Wow, that was a rather disrespectful comment to my watch. Anyway, indeed, we have different tastes and that is totally ok. I love the 15202 with no celebrity name printed on it, and I cheer Patek and Rolex for not going down the path of naming their watches after other people. The good part of collecting is that, for those who like this, AP, RM, Hublot and many other brands will offer plenty of options bearing celebrity names.

As to nicknames, I fine with them - the 'garage door' has actually been growing in popularity and its value in auctions just confirms this - other nicknames as the Elephant, Smurf, Hulk do not bother me either. I certainly prefer this to wearing a watch with a sportsman name. In collecting watches, diversity and respect are (or should be) the name of the game.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by JJ WA

Wow, that was a rather disrespectful comment to my watch. Anyway, indeed, we have different tastes and that is totally ok. I love the 15202 with no celebrity name printed on it, and I cheer Patek and Rolex for not going down the path of naming their watches after other people. The good part of collecting is that, for those who like this, AP, RM, Hublot and many other brands will offer plenty of options bearing celebrity names.

As to nicknames, I fine with them - the 'garage door' has actually been growing in popularity and its value in auctions just confirms this - other nicknames as the Elephant, Smurf, Hulk do not bother me either. I certainly prefer this to wearing a watch with a sportsman name. In collecting watches, diversity and respect are (or should be) the name of the game.

Neil does have the 5711-1R, so in no way a Nautilus hater

[JJ WA]

Originally Posted by lapince

Neil does have the 5711-1R, so in no way a Nautilus hater

Thanks, Arnaud. I just found that 'toilet seat' was a bit too much. But, again, it's ok. Some will prefer the garage doors, smurfs, elephants and the like, while others prefer the name of their favorite athletes (in the hope that they will continue to be venerable to the point of having their names attached to the high-value pieces we carry on our wrists). I am a happy member of the first group.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by JJ WA

Thanks, Arnaud. I just found that 'toilet seat' was a bit too much. But, again, it's ok. Some will prefer the garage doors, smurfs, elephants and the like, while others prefer the name of their favorite athletes (in the hope that they will continue to be venerable to the point of having their names attached to the high-value pieces we carry on our wrists). I am a happy member of the first group.

My point was that you are doing the same thing you claim to object to. It is trivial and superficial to care more about nicknames and sports stars than the watches themselves, and so I used your white Nautilus to point out your flawed and condescending thinking. The people who own RB2s or Schumis and many others are not buying for any name significance, whatever that is, they are buying incredible timepieces. And as Arnaud says I own a Nautilus so I'm not talking about the watch at all.

[MBI]

Got beat to it by another buyer ☹️������ Does anybody know someone selling a stainless steel messi for sale?

[subtona]

Really like the Messi, however it has a 50m WR, the lower water resistance is a big minus for me.
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/ha...e-pics-pricing
Blue 5711 is a winner.

[Star Ferry]

5711 may not be named after a celebrity but it does have a very famous name on its dial nonetheless

Some may find celebrity special editions gauche but who cares? Rolex still pays athletes to wear its watches, even if it stops short of engraving "Federer" on a case back

It's not just AP, RM and Hublot -- Even Seiko has a Djokovic branded LE. Doesn't stop me from enjoying the watches