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[Jeff42899]

Hello all. I'm purchasing another Rolex and need the expert opinions from here. I've been horse trading and negotiating assuming I was looking at a 16710 Pepsi. After further review, I think it may actually be a 116710, but I'm not sure. The owner is not knowledgeable at all. He just knew "GMT Pepsi". At it's face, it appears to be a good deal, but I'd like the opinions of the folks here if there is anything that smells fishy in these pics and what model it truly is. Thoughts?
I don't have enough posts to add the pics. Anyone willing to post them if I email the pics?

[Forum-Dweller]

Pics didn't post. Try uploading to an image hosting site and giving us the links.

Pepsi version of the 116710 is actually the 116719 BLRO and is white gold only. Has to be a 16710 or older.

Please don't negotiate a deal for a watch you know very little to nothing about. It's very easy to get scammed. Have the seller get it appraised, meet up at a trusted AD, etc etc

[Jeff42899]

I appreciate your advice. We are meeting at an AD for the transaction. I'm just hoping to get some insight prior. I hope you get a better reception when you're trying to learn. Pics aren't there because I don't have enough posts to add them. It states that pretty clearly in the post.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by Jeff42899

Hello all. I'm purchasing another Rolex and need the expert opinions from here. I've been horse trading and negotiating assuming I was looking at a 16710 Pepsi. After further review, I think it may actually be a 116710, but I'm not sure. The owner is not knowledgeable at all. . . ?

A 16710 and a 116710 aren't anything alike, larger case, ceramic insert, trip-lock crown, billet clasp, etched rehaut; all on the latter and not the former. Also, a 116710 Pepsi does not exist, they only come in black or black/blue.

I find it hard to believe that a seller has one and is not knowledgeable about what he has.

I would approach this with caution.

[watchwatcher]

Good Lord, if you don't know the difference between a 16710 and a 116710 maybe you should re-think the whole "horse trading" thing.

[Jeff42899]

Thanks for the help everyone. I own a few subs but this is my first venture into GMT. You've been a great help.

[mtgjr]

Originally Posted by watchwatcher

Good Lord, if you don't know the difference between a 16710 and a 116710 maybe you should re-think the whole "horse trading" thing.

^This!! The two look very little alike and the 116710 doesn't come in Pepsi....only all black and blue/black.

[Forum-Dweller]

If the seller knows nothing about the watch and the buyer knows the nothing about the watch, did it make a sound?

[springer]

Originally Posted by Forum-Dweller

If the seller knows nothing about the watch and the buyer knows the nothing about the watch, did it make a sound?

As we said on the job...it's a recipe for failure.

[Jeff42899]

Originally Posted by Forum-Dweller

If the seller knows nothing about the watch and the buyer knows the nothing about the watch, did it make a sound?

That's actually pretty funny. The seller received the watch as a gift from an ex. The current squeeze of his doesn't like that. I have a few things he likes. Deal is in the making. He's a neighbor and while I don't know much about him, I know the entry price in our neighborhood is 400k+. We're meeting at an AD. I'm wondering what others think as all I can find is that the Pepsi is 116719. I'm sure the dealer well have more info, but curious as to the thoughts here.

[Jeff42899]

[Jeff42899]

I can post pics now. I'm open to opinions. As stated, we're meeting at an AD but I'd like the opinion of folks here.

[frequentflyer]

That is a fake and needs to be smashed with a hammer immediately.

[Forum-Dweller]

I lol'd so hard. 100% fake.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by Jeff42899

I can post pics now. I'm open to opinions. As stated, we're meeting at an AD but I'd like the opinion of folks here.

My opinion is that it's as real as a $4 dollar bill, even the box is fake.

You do know that an authentic 116719 is a solid white gold, $35,000.00 dollar watch..

[Forum-Dweller]

Originally Posted by tools

my opinion is that it's as real as a $4 dollar bill, even the box is fake.

You do know that an authentic 116719 is a solid white gold, $35,000.00 dollar watch..

$38,250*

[Macnavara]

Originally Posted by Jeff42899

Thanks for the help everyone. I own a few subs but this is my first venture into GMT. You've been a great help.

Can we see those too

[Lawisme]

Originally Posted by Macnavara

Can we see those too

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[Speed]

Oof

[hnn17]

Exes don't leave behind a $38k watch. Is that steelinox on the buckle ?

[calj_whyte]

Just google '116719 BLRO' (how it should look). The differences will smack you in the face.

[Jeff42899]

Awesome. Thanks guys! I appreciate the help and saving me the time.

[watchwatcher]

Another crisis averted.

[mtgjr]

I like the way the OP tells us the starting price for homes in his neighborhood. What exactly was the purpose of that? Supposed to lend credibility to the seller somehow? Honesty and integrity don't have a price. Nor do good taste, class, etc. You can't buy any of those things with any amount of money.

I wonder what the OP was willing to horse trade away for that beauty. I'm thinking that the owner was bluffing the OP when he agreed to go to the AD, hoping at some point the OP would feel comfortable enough with him and decide they didn't need to go to the AD after all.

[brandrea]

Yikes, close call

[Forum-Dweller]

Originally Posted by mtgjr

I like the way the OP tells us the starting price for homes in his neighborhood. What exactly was the purpose of that? Supposed to lend credibility to the seller somehow? Honesty and integrity don't have a price. Nor do good taste, class, etc. You can't buy any of those things with any amount of money.

I wonder what the OP was willing to horse trade away for that beauty. I'm thinking that the owner was bluffing the OP when he agreed to go to the AD, hoping at some point the OP would feel comfortable enough with him and decide they didn't need to go to the AD after all.

The higher the home price, the higher the mortgage!

[Likestheshiny]

Am I the only one who saw that home price and thought "You can't buy a studio apartment for that where I live"?

I suppose it's all relative, but I did think it was funny that the value of homes in his neighborhood seemed to make the Op find the watch more credible.

[jguerra04]

OP, I’m embarrassed for you just reading this.

[Forum-Dweller]

Originally Posted by Likestheshiny

Am I the only one who saw that home price and thought "You can't buy a studio apartment for that where I live"?

I suppose it's all relative, but I did think it was funny that the value of homes in his neighborhood seemed to make the Op find the watch more credible.

Depends on the location. In Texas, that's a fairly big home in a nice neighborhood. In Miami, NYC, Beverley Hills, et, you can barely get an apartment big enough for more than one person

Also, in the OP's case, his neighbor's house was probably his mama's lol

[hnn17]

This thread should be in the watchout section.