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subtona · 7 October 2018, 12:13 AM

what would be your choice besides Rolex and Patek for

1 Sport
1 Dress

sport:
Grand Seiko has been more and more compelling as a versatile do anything go anywhere sports watch, equal in build quality to rolex yet meaningfully under the radar for all of the is it safe concerns. There is a satisfying power to answering a stangers question "what kind of watch are you wearing" by responding "seiko" and letting the conversation fade away when the circumstances dictate. my GS is actually a dress watch so i am speaking from a position of admiration, though it has a dressy look, the 305 would be a wonderful choice for the sports model, proper water resistance and build quality, i would where it without thought to any activity

dress:
FP Journe has also become more and more compelling for his fascinating design choices while respecting the classic proportions of a dress watch.
especially regarding the thickness of the case. many offerings do not have regard for the beauty and elegance of being able to slide under a shirt cuff.
the FP Journe Chrono Bleu has become my favorite watch.

what are your choices?

Snow-Dweller · 7 October 2018, 12:15 AM

Tudor and AP.

Roger Lococco · 7 October 2018, 12:23 AM

Vacheron and ALS.

FTX I · 7 October 2018, 12:41 AM

Omega and JLC

_speedmaster_ · 7 October 2018, 01:23 AM

Sport = Blancpain or AP
Dress = FPJ (one day I’ll have my CB). I’ll admit though, that I’m no fan of Patek and I’d choose a plethora of other brands over them anyway (FPJ, Moser, Laurent ferrier , ALS, Breguet).

Justindo · 7 October 2018, 02:43 AM

Sport: Omega. They are equal to Rolex in quality and superior to them in innovation. It's also nice that Omegas are readily available and less than half the price of Rolex in terms of street pricing, although this is also reflected in Omega's lower resale prices and 2nd place status among the general public. I do, however, think Omega makes too many variations of its watches, releases too many "special editions", and uses fauxtina too much. They could learn from Rolex but it would be nice if Rolex followed Omega's lead in some respects as well, at least from a consumer's perspective.

Dress: ALS followed by VC followed by JLC. These days, Patek's finishing on most watches is about on par with JLC's but their street prices, and I'm not just talking about the Nautilus and Aquanaut. dwarf JLCs are and at least 30-50% more than ALS and VC, the former of which simply embarrasses Patek. At this point, I really don't see another new Patek in my future.

Note that I currently own or have owned in the past at least two watches from every brand listed above.

MrWeha · 7 October 2018, 02:45 AM

Lange + AP

subtona · 7 October 2018, 02:49 AM

quite a variety of replies, very interesting.

we are going to have to add some visuals to this thread...

OmegaJJH · 7 October 2018, 03:07 AM

Without Rolex or Patek I think AP have got it covered.

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DahMan · 7 October 2018, 03:08 AM

Omega, VC

Wildy · 7 October 2018, 04:28 AM

Sport - Ap
Dress - Moser

Skanse · 7 October 2018, 05:28 AM

AP and Journe

subtona · 7 October 2018, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmegaJJH

Without Rolex or Patek I think AP have got it covered.

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All purpose duo

Burlington · 7 October 2018, 06:32 AM

AP for sports - for me the perfect balance between high end horology and functional practicality.

For dress - ALS.

The pinnacle of understated quality.

Txkill · 7 October 2018, 08:45 AM

Grand Seiko has a lot of the Rolex/Patek offerings covered. If GS was the only brand available I’d be happy. Also zenith, Panerai, Blancpain, even Tag Heuer offer watches that would complete me.

ap1 · 7 October 2018, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subtona

quite a variety of replies, very interesting.

we are going to have to add some visuals to this thread...

Honorable mention to

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Burlington · 7 October 2018, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ap1

Honorable mention to

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Love that ALS !

avidflyer · 7 October 2018, 12:40 PM

Panerai Omega

subtona · 7 October 2018, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ap1

I could work with these

jschmidtdmd · 7 October 2018, 03:49 PM

RM and AP/ALS

Skyrider01 · 8 October 2018, 02:37 AM

Sport: AP or Omega
Dress: FP Journe or JLC

Talbel · 8 October 2018, 03:03 AM

For dress I would go with A. Lange & Sohne (my personal grail). For sport I already traded out my GMT Master II for a Grand Seiko Spring Drive GMT as I personally found it superior. So I guess, one down one to go!

SearChart · 8 October 2018, 03:58 AM

Dress: vintage Omega
Sport: Seiko

tyler1980 · 8 October 2018, 04:33 AM

1 ALS

2 as for the second there are several i would consider as long as i had a Lange first

mps354 · 8 October 2018, 05:10 AM

For alternative dress watches, I really like Lange, FPJ, and Laurent Ferrier. For sports watches, I’ve never been terribly fond of anything non Rolex or Patek

JR16 · 8 October 2018, 07:17 AM

ALS- have a Lange 1, and good chance I will go for an 1815 up/down in the next 1-2 yrs

AP- ideally would find a nice pre owned 15300, but also would consider 15202 or 15450

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drhr · 8 October 2018, 09:16 AM

These would be just fine . . .

subtona · 8 October 2018, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drhr

These would be just fine . . .

2 unique great pieces well suited to the task

Rebel · 8 October 2018, 11:08 AM

Tudor and Grand Seiko

brandrea · 8 October 2018, 11:12 AM

Blancpain / Panerai
Jaeger-LeCoultre

7 October 2018, 12:13 AM	#1
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 25,987	2 other watch brands you would be happy with if Rolex & Patek where off the table? what would be your choice besides Rolex and Patek for 1 Sport 1 Dress sport: Grand Seiko has been more and more compelling as a versatile do anything go anywhere sports watch, equal in build quality to rolex yet meaningfully under the radar for all of the is it safe concerns. There is a satisfying power to answering a stangers question "what kind of watch are you wearing" by responding "seiko" and letting the conversation fade away when the circumstances dictate. my GS is actually a dress watch so i am speaking from a position of admiration, though it has a dressy look, the 305 would be a wonderful choice for the sports model, proper water resistance and build quality, i would where it without thought to any activity dress: FP Journe has also become more and more compelling for his fascinating design choices while respecting the classic proportions of a dress watch. especially regarding the thickness of the case. many offerings do not have regard for the beauty and elegance of being able to slide under a shirt cuff. the FP Journe Chrono Bleu has become my favorite watch. what are your choices? __________________

7 October 2018, 12:15 AM	#2
Snow-Dweller 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Clive Location: The Alps Watch: collections change Posts: 6,270	Tudor and AP. __________________ . The path from WIShood to WISdom can have many turnings... ——————————————————————————————————— . 16803. 16570. 18038. 114300. BB58. GMW-B5000D.

7 October 2018, 12:23 AM	#3
Roger Lococco "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Real Name: Roger Lococco Location: Asia Watch: 126719BLRO Pepsi Posts: 2,844	Vacheron and ALS. __________________ 116500 Daytona White Dial 126710BLNR GMT II 126719BLRO Blue Dial Pepsi GMT II

7 October 2018, 01:23 AM	#5
_speedmaster_ "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Earth Posts: 2,443	Sport = Blancpain or AP Dress = FPJ (one day I’ll have my CB). I’ll admit though, that I’m no fan of Patek and I’d choose a plethora of other brands over them anyway (FPJ, Moser, Laurent ferrier , ALS, Breguet). __________________ Blancpain \| Chopard LUC \| Grand Seiko/King Seiko \| Grönefeld \| Laurent Ferrier \| Moritz Grossmann \| Omega \| Trilobe \| Urban Jürgensen instagram.com/ct_watch_guy

7 October 2018, 02:49 AM	#8
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 25,987	quite a variety of replies, very interesting. we are going to have to add some visuals to this thread... __________________

7 October 2018, 12:41 AM	#4
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,652	Omega and JLC

7 October 2018, 02:43 AM	#6
Justindo "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: California Posts: 2,176	Sport: Omega. They are equal to Rolex in quality and superior to them in innovation. It's also nice that Omegas are readily available and less than half the price of Rolex in terms of street pricing, although this is also reflected in Omega's lower resale prices and 2nd place status among the general public. I do, however, think Omega makes too many variations of its watches, releases too many "special editions", and uses fauxtina too much. They could learn from Rolex but it would be nice if Rolex followed Omega's lead in some respects as well, at least from a consumer's perspective. Dress: ALS followed by VC followed by JLC. These days, Patek's finishing on most watches is about on par with JLC's but their street prices, and I'm not just talking about the Nautilus and Aquanaut. dwarf JLCs are and at least 30-50% more than ALS and VC, the former of which simply embarrasses Patek. At this point, I really don't see another new Patek in my future. Note that I currently own or have owned in the past at least two watches from every brand listed above.

7 October 2018, 02:45 AM	#7
MrWeha "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: EU Posts: 99	Lange + AP

7 October 2018, 03:07 AM	#9
OmegaJJH "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: James Location: UK Watch: Rolex & Omega Posts: 6,663	Without Rolex or Patek I think AP have got it covered. Sent from my iPhone

7 October 2018, 03:08 AM	#10
DahMan Banned Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Florida Posts: 635	Omega, VC

7 October 2018, 04:28 AM	#11
Wildy "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: UK Posts: 500	Sport - Ap Dress - Moser __________________ Rolex DSSD JC, Rolex GMT LN,Rolex DJ41 silver fluted on jubilee,Rolex Yacht-master blue dial, IWC Ingenieur 3227, Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch 3861, Tudor P01. Bremont ALT , Hamilton Khaki Below Zero

7 October 2018, 05:28 AM	#12
Skanse "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Belgium Posts: 257	AP and Journe __________________ AP 15300ST - Rolex Daytona 116500LN - Tudor BB58 - IWC Portugieser chrono IW3714 - Breitling Colt 44

7 October 2018, 06:32 AM	#14
Burlington "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Europe Posts: 5,634	AP for sports - for me the perfect balance between high end horology and functional practicality. For dress - ALS. The pinnacle of understated quality. __________________ “My tastes are simple; I am easily satisfied with the best.” ― Winston S. Churchill

7 October 2018, 08:45 AM	#15
Txkill "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Joseph Location: Rockwall TX Watch: Lots Posts: 1,223	Grand Seiko has a lot of the Rolex/Patek offerings covered. If GS was the only brand available I’d be happy. Also zenith, Panerai, Blancpain, even Tag Heuer offer watches that would complete me.

7 October 2018, 12:40 PM	#18
avidflyer 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: In the air Posts: 678	Panerai Omega

7 October 2018, 03:49 PM	#20
jschmidtdmd "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: John Location: Denver Posts: 2,294	RM and AP/ALS __________________ Watches!

8 October 2018, 02:37 AM	#21
Skyrider01 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Florida/Canada Posts: 1,278	Sport: AP or Omega Dress: FP Journe or JLC

8 October 2018, 03:03 AM	#22
Talbel "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Tom Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 387	For dress I would go with A. Lange & Sohne (my personal grail). For sport I already traded out my GMT Master II for a Grand Seiko Spring Drive GMT as I personally found it superior. So I guess, one down one to go!

8 October 2018, 04:33 AM	#24
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	1 ALS 2 as for the second there are several i would consider as long as i had a Lange first __________________ Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)

8 October 2018, 05:10 AM	#25
mps354 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: CT Posts: 8,971	For alternative dress watches, I really like Lange, FPJ, and Laurent Ferrier. For sports watches, I’ve never been terribly fond of anything non Rolex or Patek

8 October 2018, 07:17 AM	#26
JR16 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Posts: 6,186	ALS- have a Lange 1, and good chance I will go for an 1815 up/down in the next 1-2 yrs AP- ideally would find a nice pre owned 15300, but also would consider 15202 or 15450 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

8 October 2018, 11:08 AM	#29
Rebel "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Dr Mark R Nail Location: New Albany Watch: Tudor Sub 75090 Posts: 8,055	Tudor and Grand Seiko __________________ ------------------------------- Member of the Nylon Nation

8 October 2018, 11:12 AM	#30
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 73,576	Blancpain / Panerai Jaeger-LeCoultre

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