5212 first seen : absolute beauty

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

“There is no great genius without some touch of madness”
- Aristotle

Love Aristotle

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by Russell996

Love Aristotle

I love Socrates

[Fat_ninja]

Looks like the same boxed sapphire
Do we know if the case was stamped?

[rockdrock]

Holy moly. I don’t want to like this watch but I love it.


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[Roleplay]

Does anyone know when the first pieces will likely be delivered to ADs?

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by Roleplay

Does anyone know when the first pieces will likely be delivered to ADs?

Mine is August. No idea if that is early or not, lots of Basel pieces have arrived quickly this year.

[DGB]

Right,

Went again in the Boutique and disappointingly the manager said there is a very high interest on this watch.
Then we discussed about the 5711, I managed to get my rank on the list : I am number 178 and there are probably hundreds behind me, they deliver less than 10 a year....

Then the guy said the list is not chronological, people can jump the queue if they buy other watches and the more one buys , the higher they can jump the queue.

Conclusion, my actual waiting time is around 18 years for the Naughty-lus, and 5 for the 5212. That is if no one behind me buy many watches and jumps their position and gets before me.

Patience is a great virtue.


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[Ichiran]

Does anyone know how many adjustment is required on this watch? Like once a year similar to a normal AC?

[benlee]

Originally Posted by DGB

Right,

Went again in the Boutique and disappointingly the manager said there is a very high interest on this watch.
Then we discussed about the 5711, I managed to get my rank on the list : I am number 178 and there are probably hundreds behind me, they deliver less than 10 a year....

Then the guy said the list is not chronological, people can jump the queue if they buy other watches and the more one buys , the higher they can jump the queue.

Conclusion, my actual waiting time is around 18 years for the Naughty-lus, and 5 for the 5212. That is if no one behind me buy many watches and jumps their position and gets before me.

Patience is a great virtue.


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Good Grief. 18 years! They might as well just outright tell you they aren't selling you the watch.

[benlee]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

Looks like the same boxed sapphire
Do we know if the case was stamped?

Not quite sure what so attractive about this watch other than because it's in SS and the potential investment value. The calendar function must be a PITA to adjust being not an annual calendar. I'll see for myself next month when I visit the Geneva salon.

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

Does anyone know how many adjustment is required on this watch? Like once a year similar to a normal AC?

Not an annual calendar. Monthly adjustment required of the date indicator.

Originally Posted by benlee

Not quite sure what so attractive about this watch other than because it's in SS and the potential investment value. The calendar function must be a PITA to adjust being not an annual calendar. I'll see for myself next month when I visit the Geneva salon.

The only thing to adjust is the date like any other non ac or pc watch. The weeks and days don’t change with different length months.

[A971]

Originally Posted by GB-man

I’m done poo pooing this one. It’s interesting, it’s steel, it’s Patek. Sometimes that’s enough.

I think this is really a great way of putting it.

[benlee]

Originally Posted by Russell996

Not an annual calendar. Monthly adjustment required of the date indicator.

The only thing to adjust is the date like any other non ac or pc watch. The weeks and days don’t change with different length months.

Does it need to be manually adjusted when switching from a 30 days month to 1st?

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by benlee

Does it need to be manually adjusted when switching from a 30 days month to 1st?

Yes, just the date to advance as per 5711 etc.

[Calatrava r]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

Does anyone know how many adjustment is required on this watch? Like once a year similar to a normal AC?

I believe it is a simple calendar with no mechanical memory at all.

[BobDyl]

Doesn't work for me whatsoever, but congrats to those incoming. Would be boring if we all agreed all the time (Nautilus threads, etc, as evidence).

[mrenvy]

Is it too expensive for a SS Calatrava? It is not even an annual calendar. Would people pay a bit more for a 5396?

[subtona]

Yup. I want one.

[subtona]

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Originally Posted by mrenvy

Is it too expensive for a SS Calatrava? It is not even an annual calendar. Would people pay a bit more for a 5396?

What is it missing to be an annual calendar?


Edit, reading further back, sounds like each month with less than 31 days will have to be manually corrected?

A bit of a disappointment but I do really like that font on the dial

[mrenvy]

Originally Posted by subtona

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What is it missing to be an annual calendar?


Edit, reading further back, sounds like each month with less than 31 days will have to be manually corrected?

A bit of a disappointment but I do really like that font on the dial

5212 requires a tool to adjust day and week. It will be less convenient than the annual calendar complication.


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[Russell996]

Originally Posted by mrenvy

5212 requires a tool to adjust day and week. It will be less convenient than the annual calendar complication.


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It has two pushers. Annual calendar has 4 pushers.

Clearly you need to adjust the date 5 times a year because it is not an AC (AC is once a year) - but unless you wear your pieces everyday or have them on a winder you will need to adjust all your pieces with a date far more than this simply because they have stopped.
Not sure convenience is an issue when deciding about this piece.

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by mrenvy

5212 requires a tool to adjust day and week. It will be less convenient than the annual calendar complication.


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That tool would be a toothpick :)

[subtona]

On the plus side according to the literature, the movement can be adjusted at anytime without damage.

[Sam Philip]

Originally Posted by mrenvy

5212 requires a tool to adjust day and week. It will be less convenient than the annual calendar complication.


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5212A comes with a stylus and has 2 pushers to correct the week and day which can be easily done.

[bob101]

Looks pretty slick! Hope we see some incoming soon

[Sam Philip]

Originally Posted by Russell996

Mine is August. No idea if that is early or not, lots of Basel pieces have arrived quickly this year.

I was speaking to my AD yesterday and he said he would give me the first one they receive and they are expecting it end of August/early September.

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by Sam Philip

I was speaking to my AD yesterday and he said he would give me the first one they receive and they are expecting it end of August/early September.

Interestingly mine mentioned September the other day rather than August.

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by Sam Philip

I was speaking to my AD yesterday and he said he would give me the first one they receive and they are expecting it end of August/early September.

Originally Posted by Russell996

Interestingly mine mentioned September the other day rather than August.

Oooh. I can’t wait to see both of ur watches!!!!so exciting

[Sam Philip]

Originally Posted by Russell996

Interestingly mine mentioned September the other day rather than August.

I think September is more likely. I recall "Peter" also mentioning that he was due his 5212A on September.

[Sam Philip]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

Oooh. I can’t wait to see both of ur watches!!!!so exciting

I think you will get one before me