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pam66 · 8 July 2019, 09:27 PM

here are two watches with very similar market value (but very different list prices), namely the nautilus 5980 1R and the PCC 5270P. as i said, very different list prices but if you have to pay market value for the 5980 1R you will run into very similar expenses.
so here is my question: which of the two would you rather own? just ignore for a moment what you already have in your collection, just try to look at both watches and ask yourself what your preference would be, if you could only own one of them.

Ichiran · 8 July 2019, 09:29 PM

Easy one for me - 5270p. For me it wins in terms of aesthetics and complications. Though not disclosed, the 5270p shd be rarer and more exclusive too.

And it has the special salmon...

AK797 · 8 July 2019, 09:33 PM

As a first PP I'd probably pick up the Nautilus but think I'd sell it later for the 5270.

subtona · 8 July 2019, 09:43 PM

5980

Fat_ninja · 8 July 2019, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subtona

5980

Curious on your thoughts here given your evolution to more dress pieces. Thanks in advance and this is the 5980 1R not the steel variant.

tyler1980 · 8 July 2019, 10:02 PM

i love the 5980 1R but this isn't a fair fight. 5270P all day, every day

nyc2la · 8 July 2019, 10:05 PM

A perfect daily, dressy or causal. And it doesn’t have the bezel that scratches when you breath on it. Let alone the complications and the movement on the 5270. Not even close, IMO.

Sam Philip · 8 July 2019, 10:22 PM

5980/1R for me. Tried the 5270P few times but not for me.

How are you finding the 5980/1R compared to 5980R. I am thinking of adding a 5980R before it gets retired next year

ts3 · 8 July 2019, 10:26 PM

I like the 5270P as it is a very good-looking watch, the 5980/1R not so much IMO. For an all-gold Nautilus I'd want a 5711/1J w blue dial... and hope TS is listening...

pam66 · 8 July 2019, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Philip

5980/1R for me. Tried the 5270P few times but not for me.

How are you finding the 5980/1R compared to 5980R. I am thinking of adding a 5980R before it gets retired next year

i have only had the 1R for a few days but as of now i prefer the R. it is more wearable, doesn't look like a million dollar watch and has the nicer more playful dial. the 1R is more serene, however for a full RG watch nothing beats the 5711R.

Murcielagoboy2 · 8 July 2019, 10:36 PM

The 5270 is the WAAAAAAYYYY nicer watch.
The design, the functionality, the balance and platinum. It's leagues ahead.

Think is, I just don't like salmon dials....

This Nautilus silliness will come to an end you know...

APAP · 8 July 2019, 11:33 PM

5270P no contest

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tng11 · 8 July 2019, 11:43 PM

5270P in a New York minute.

Russell996 · 8 July 2019, 11:56 PM

I don’t think for 1 minute this will be remotely close. 5270P

Chiboy · 9 July 2019, 12:37 AM

I imagine in the not too distant future, we will look back on this time period and be utterly amazed that these two watches could ever have similar market values.

FWIW, I always vote for whatever NY2LA posts a picture of, as it always sways me! Although in this case, I had already decided.

Analysing You · 9 July 2019, 12:50 AM

5270P, no question, without any doubt.

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GGatsby · 9 July 2019, 01:19 AM

5270P is a beautiful watch - i will buy one when i am 80 and do less sports !! :)

wulin · 9 July 2019, 01:21 AM

5980/1R. Don't feel like having to wind the watch everyday.

unknown · 9 July 2019, 01:28 AM

i would rather own 5980 1R ----- 6 ----- 18.75%
i would rather own 5270P ----- 26 ----- 81.25%

If I was a moderator ... I would permanently block 6 members

bob101 · 9 July 2019, 01:40 AM

Don't think I could turn down a 5270P over any watch.

nyc2la · 9 July 2019, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wulin

5980/1R. Don't feel like having to wind the watch everyday.

Winding the 5270p — It’s a calming and “romantic” part of my bustling and hectic morning. It provides me with a respite. Pulling the watch to my ear, listening to the gears as they wind ever so smoothly - the connection with a manual wind PCC is one of the aspects I love most about the watch.

GB-man · 9 July 2019, 01:47 AM

Let me see. I think I will take the platinum PCC

V25V · 9 July 2019, 01:59 AM

5270P

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Bearxj86 · 9 July 2019, 02:06 AM

This isn’t a fair fight. 5270P

Calatrava r · 9 July 2019, 02:13 AM

Something about Patel perpetual chronographs which makes them very special, so I would opt for the 5270P.

Calatrava r · 9 July 2019, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ts3

I like the 5270P as it is a very good-looking watch, the 5980/1R not so much IMO. For an all-gold Nautilus I'd want a 5711/1J w blue dial... and hope TS is listening...

I agree here. I never went for the 5711/R because of the brown dial.

Calatrava r · 9 July 2019, 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyc2la

A perfect daily, dressy or causal. And it doesn’t have the bezel that scratches when you breath on it. Let alone the complications and the movement on the 5270. Not even close, IMO.

Where did you get the blue strap and what shade is it? Very beautiful on any watch.

raclaims · 9 July 2019, 02:17 AM

I own the 5980 and turned down the 5270...but there was a massive price delta in what I paid for the 5980R and the 5270P...if same price 5270 wins

Amazing that they are trading for the same $

Aquaman · 9 July 2019, 02:53 AM

I'll go 5270p

ap1 · 9 July 2019, 03:34 AM

5270p, sadly too large for me. Oh, and the price tag but never mind that

View Poll Results: 5980 1R or 5270P
i would rather own 5980 1R	33	26.19%
i would rather own 5270P	93	73.81%
Voters: 126. You may not vote on this poll

8 July 2019, 09:27 PM	#1
pam66 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: cambridge Posts: 2,256	5980 1R or 5270P here are two watches with very similar market value (but very different list prices), namely the nautilus 5980 1R and the PCC 5270P. as i said, very different list prices but if you have to pay market value for the 5980 1R you will run into very similar expenses. so here is my question: which of the two would you rather own? just ignore for a moment what you already have in your collection, just try to look at both watches and ask yourself what your preference would be, if you could only own one of them.

8 July 2019, 09:43 PM	#4
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 25,987	5980 __________________

8 July 2019, 10:02 PM	#6
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	i love the 5980 1R but this isn't a fair fight. 5270P all day, every day __________________ Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)

8 July 2019, 10:05 PM	#7
nyc2la "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Stephen Location: Beach Watch: 16660 Posts: 9,174	A perfect daily, dressy or causal. And it doesn’t have the bezel that scratches when you breath on it. Let alone the complications and the movement on the 5270. Not even close, IMO. __________________ "Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." --- RWE

8 July 2019, 09:29 PM	#2
Ichiran 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Michael Location: Dotonbori Watch: Mostly blue dials Posts: 7,594	Easy one for me - 5270p. For me it wins in terms of aesthetics and complications. Though not disclosed, the 5270p shd be rarer and more exclusive too. And it has the special salmon...

8 July 2019, 09:33 PM	#3
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,215	As a first PP I'd probably pick up the Nautilus but think I'd sell it later for the 5270.

8 July 2019, 10:22 PM	#8
Sam Philip Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK Posts: 4,345	5980/1R for me. Tried the 5270P few times but not for me. How are you finding the 5980/1R compared to 5980R. I am thinking of adding a 5980R before it gets retired next year

8 July 2019, 10:26 PM	#9
ts3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Europe Posts: 3,223	I like the 5270P as it is a very good-looking watch, the 5980/1R not so much IMO. For an all-gold Nautilus I'd want a 5711/1J w blue dial... and hope TS is listening...

8 July 2019, 10:36 PM	#11
Murcielagoboy2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: London Posts: 431	The 5270 is the WAAAAAAYYYY nicer watch. The design, the functionality, the balance and platinum. It's leagues ahead. Think is, I just don't like salmon dials.... This Nautilus silliness will come to an end you know...

8 July 2019, 11:33 PM	#12
APAP "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Canada Posts: 748	5270P no contest /Thread

8 July 2019, 11:43 PM	#13
tng11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: N/A Posts: 3,629	5270P in a New York minute.

8 July 2019, 11:56 PM	#14
Russell996 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: UK Posts: 4,173	I don’t think for 1 minute this will be remotely close. 5270P

9 July 2019, 12:37 AM	#15
Chiboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Chicago Watch: Daytona Posts: 5,380	I imagine in the not too distant future, we will look back on this time period and be utterly amazed that these two watches could ever have similar market values. FWIW, I always vote for whatever NY2LA posts a picture of, as it always sways me! Although in this case, I had already decided. __________________ Datejust w/black Tapestry dial (1985) / Daytona (2016)

9 July 2019, 12:50 AM	#16
Analysing You "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: London Posts: 534	5270P, no question, without any doubt. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

9 July 2019, 01:19 AM	#17
GGatsby "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 75	5270P is a beautiful watch - i will buy one when i am 80 and do less sports !! :)

9 July 2019, 01:21 AM	#18
wulin "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: California Watch: PP,AP,Rolex,IWC Posts: 578	5980/1R. Don't feel like having to wind the watch everyday.

9 July 2019, 01:28 AM	#19
unknown "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 2,799	i would rather own 5980 1R ----- 6 ----- 18.75% i would rather own 5270P ----- 26 ----- 81.25% If I was a moderator ... I would permanently block 6 members __________________ Instagram : @collectible_watches

9 July 2019, 01:40 AM	#20
bob101 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 558	Don't think I could turn down a 5270P over any watch.

9 July 2019, 01:47 AM	#22
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,856	Let me see. I think I will take the platinum PCC __________________

9 July 2019, 01:59 AM	#23
V25V 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: USA Posts: 4,340	5270P Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

9 July 2019, 02:06 AM	#24
Bearxj86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Los Angeles Watch: 3970 Posts: 3,799	This isn’t a fair fight. 5270P

9 July 2019, 02:13 AM	#25
Calatrava r 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: United States Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 10,578	Something about Patel perpetual chronographs which makes them very special, so I would opt for the 5270P.

9 July 2019, 02:17 AM	#28
raclaims "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 2,584	I own the 5980 and turned down the 5270...but there was a massive price delta in what I paid for the 5980R and the 5270P...if same price 5270 wins Amazing that they are trading for the same $

9 July 2019, 02:53 AM	#29
Aquaman Banned Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: All around Posts: 600	I'll go 5270p

9 July 2019, 03:34 AM	#30
ap1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,030	5270p, sadly too large for me. Oh, and the price tag but never mind that

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