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exxondus · 11 July 2016, 09:27 AM

I think both are fairly easy to get nowadays. I was a first time pp owner and I got my 5711 from an AD. Just by walking in and noticing it on display.

lapince · 11 July 2016, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by exxondus

I think both are fairly easy to get nowadays. I was a first time pp owner and I got my 5711 from an AD. Just by walking in and noticing it on display.

Well maybe from where you are, but just try getting one from any european country, basically impossible, they never happen to be in windows, there are huge waiting lists for them, really crazy, I think the Daytona is much easier to get...

Tay821 · 11 July 2016, 11:24 AM

Year wait at my AD. My Rolex ad offered me a Daytona C before it came out. I was even the first one to try it on at the store and turned it down as I am saving for the aquanaut. In hindsight I should have bought it and flipped it. It is a beautiful watch however and I'll be buying it later on once I don't have to pay Msrp + tax.

KarlS · 13 July 2016, 10:04 PM

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5711 has been difficult to get for years! Doubt the Daytona will be able to say that after a year!

Might have to eat my words...feel vaguely guilty that a watch loved and desired by many and which wasn't even on my radar, resulted in my AD emailing me 2 days ago and I am the owner!

Finkalot · 13 July 2016, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KarlS

Might have to eat my words...feel vaguely guilty that a watch loved and desired by many and which wasn't even on my radar, resulted in my AD emailing me 2 days ago and I am the owner!

Congrats Karl. Lovely watch.

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Tay821 · 13 July 2016, 10:53 PM

Congrats Karl on a beauty. That's a great blue to add to your squad and a nice Brexit pickup

jon_jon · 14 July 2016, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KarlS

Might have to eat my words...feel vaguely guilty that a watch loved and desired by many and which wasn't even on my radar, resulted in my AD emailing me 2 days ago and I am the owner!

Congratulations

When are you picking up the watch? Looking forward to the wrist shot!

KarlS · 14 July 2016, 12:59 AM

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Congratulations

When are you picking up the watch? Looking forward to the wrist shot!

Probably only next month as there are a few other pieces that need to be sorted...unfortunately I had to decline the 40th Annuversary event in 19th September as heading to Geneva. Let's hope they doing do ethnic there!

lovej · 14 July 2016, 06:03 AM

Equally difficult in AUS

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daytonaTBR · 14 July 2016, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KarlS

Might have to eat my words...feel vaguely guilty that a watch loved and desired by many and which wasn't even on my radar, resulted in my AD emailing me 2 days ago and I am the owner!

Congrats! Double sealed too!

Jareddad · 14 July 2016, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by KarlS

Might have to eat my words...feel vaguely guilty that a watch loved and desired by many and which wasn't even on my radar, resulted in my AD emailing me 2 days ago and I am the owner!

Nice!! Congrats.

Jareddad · 14 July 2016, 07:10 AM

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Equally difficult in AUS

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Stunning!!! I have my 5711 and I'm waiting for my Daytona C to arrive!

jsw7 · 14 July 2016, 04:56 PM

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Stunning!!! I have my 5711 and I'm waiting for my Daytona C to arrive!

Same here.

For me 5711 was easier to get and double sealed.

Abdullasaif · 17 July 2016, 06:42 AM

I can get a daytona C in 4-5 months no mark up, for the 5711 wont bother

HorologyK · 17 July 2016, 07:25 AM

Rather have a Nautilus any day of the week.

BigAl72 · 17 July 2016, 09:26 AM

What is the MSRP on the 5711?

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Jareddad · 17 July 2016, 10:46 AM

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What is the MSRP on the 5711?

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I think it's USD$ 24,600

goog53 · 17 July 2016, 11:44 AM

$24,800

beshannon · 18 July 2016, 11:51 PM

5711

Reky · 19 July 2016, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by exxondus

I think both are fairly easy to get nowadays. I was a first time pp owner and I got my 5711 from an AD. Just by walking in and noticing it on display.

This is interesting. I'm located in Singapore too and have been sniffing around the ADs without much luck and am still on wait list. Could you share which AD outlet you purchased your 5711?

exxondus · 20 July 2016, 12:02 AM

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This is interesting. I'm located in Singapore too and have been sniffing around the ADs without much luck and am still on wait list. Could you share which AD outlet you purchased your 5711?

Got it from the mbs pp boutique. They also had a 5167 but decided on the 5711 after trying it.

till dat i have yet to see a daytona C in the ADs. Still waiting, wondering the black or white looks nicer.

bonsai-man · 14 August 2018, 02:49 AM

Both are hard in the UK 5711 is the hardest to get. For both you need to be local to Ad and a previous customer that’s just to get on the 5 year list.

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Originally Posted by KarlS

Might have to eat my words...feel vaguely guilty that a watch loved and desired by many and which wasn't even on my radar, resulted in my AD emailing me 2 days ago and I am the owner!

Double sealed

I guess the AD will open that for you and discard the brown paper box. My UK AD refused to let me have the opened box for 5167 and I will not get it for 5711 when it arrives soon. Apparently Patek have ordered that ALL worldwide AD's must destroy the little brown boxes or else. Something to do with fakes and flippers selling on at a profit, Apparently the brown boxes have barcodes and ID numbers and can be tracked to the AD. Not sure how true it is but that’s what I was told when I asked. I did think about going through the AD's trash later the night, but that seemed a bit weird: chuckle:

:chuckle

calatravato · 14 August 2018, 03:06 AM

I stopped into a grey market dealer in Tokyo last May wearing my 5711 white dial. The guy had both the black and white Daytona c’s, but he complained to me that he couldn’t get a 5711 anywhere.

In general, it seems like there are a lot more Daytona c’s floating around in the gray market than 5711’s.

Hermann · 14 August 2018, 03:31 AM

In Austria for example you cannot get anymore on a waitlist for a 5711A, for a 5711R you have to wait a few years(around 3years)
The 116500 you can also get in the next 3-5years.
Patek has also not so much dealers... so i think it’s much harder to get a new 5711 directly from the Patek AD

V25V · 14 August 2018, 03:51 AM

Percentage wise in the gray market, its a 100% markup (or more) versus a 60% markup. Think that pretty much sums it up.

DeeTee · 14 August 2018, 06:44 AM

Until recently, 5711 was pretty easy to get especially the white dial.
SS Daytona’s have been hidden from the shelf since 2000.

uniqueMR · 14 August 2018, 07:19 AM

Both

GB-man · 14 August 2018, 11:37 AM

Today 5711 and it’s not even close.

Want a Daytona? Spend 20-30k at your Rolex dealer.

Want a 5711? Spend 50-100k at your Patek dealer.

coralfarmer84 · 14 August 2018, 12:33 PM

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Today 5711 and it’s not even close.

Want a Daytona? Spend 20-30k at your Rolex dealer.

Want a 5711? Spend 50-100k at your Patek dealer.

i wish that was the case down here for me with rolex. Maybe you know an AD i can spend 20k with and get a daytona at msrp because I'm ready for the black dial as well as a gold oyster flex and my AD wouldn't even look at me with a straight face when I asked for the bundle.

GB-man · 14 August 2018, 01:28 PM

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i wish that was the case down here for me with rolex. Maybe you know an AD i can spend 20k with and get a daytona at msrp because I'm ready for the black dial as well as a gold oyster flex and my AD wouldn't even look at me with a straight face when I asked for the bundle.

The gold oyster flex Daytona’s are somewhat of an exception. I think Rolex is playing inventory games with those as well.

Point is that buying a day date will land most people a Daytona in the US, whereas buying an annual calendar won’t gurantee anyone a 5711.

ADs have gotten wise to what holds value and what doesn’t and it’s harder to bundle with watches that are easy to resell for close to msrp.

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14 August 2018, 11:37 AM	#58
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11 July 2016, 09:27 AM	#31
exxondus "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 568	I think both are fairly easy to get nowadays. I was a first time pp owner and I got my 5711 from an AD. Just by walking in and noticing it on display.

11 July 2016, 11:24 AM	#33
Tay821 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: USA Posts: 913	Year wait at my AD. My Rolex ad offered me a Daytona C before it came out. I was even the first one to try it on at the store and turned it down as I am saving for the aquanaut. In hindsight I should have bought it and flipped it. It is a beautiful watch however and I'll be buying it later on once I don't have to pay Msrp + tax.

13 July 2016, 10:53 PM	#36
Tay821 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: USA Posts: 913	Congrats Karl on a beauty. That's a great blue to add to your squad and a nice Brexit pickup

14 July 2016, 06:03 AM	#39
lovej "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: James Location: Melbourne Watch: 15400 Posts: 246	Equally difficult in AUS Sent from my SM-N920I using Tapatalk

17 July 2016, 06:42 AM	#44
Abdullasaif "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Dubai Watch: bipolar Posts: 2,854	I can get a daytona C in 4-5 months no mark up, for the 5711 wont bother

17 July 2016, 07:25 AM	#45
HorologyK "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,355	Rather have a Nautilus any day of the week.

17 July 2016, 09:26 AM	#46
BigAl72 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Massachusetts Watch: D-Blue, GS SBGE001 Posts: 695	What is the MSRP on the 5711? Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk

17 July 2016, 11:44 AM	#48
goog53 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Mike G Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex-Patek-AP Posts: 3,060	$24,800

14 August 2018, 03:31 AM	#54
Hermann "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Real Name: Marcello Location: Spain Posts: 408	In Austria for example you cannot get anymore on a waitlist for a 5711A, for a 5711R you have to wait a few years(around 3years) The 116500 you can also get in the next 3-5years. Patek has also not so much dealers... so i think it’s much harder to get a new 5711 directly from the Patek AD

14 August 2018, 03:51 AM	#55
V25V 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: USA Posts: 4,340	Percentage wise in the gray market, its a 100% markup (or more) versus a 60% markup. Think that pretty much sums it up.

14 August 2018, 06:44 AM	#56
DeeTee "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Los Angeles Watch: Netflix Posts: 3,977	Until recently, 5711 was pretty easy to get especially the white dial. SS Daytona’s have been hidden from the shelf since 2000.

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