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Old 13 August 2018, 10:13 PM   #1
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Openworked vs 5711

I’ve had a 5711/1R for not even a week and it feels too flimsy. What would you guys rather have the patek or the rose openworked 41mm?
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Old 13 August 2018, 10:45 PM   #2
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Does it really matter what we would want? I would give the 5711 a little more time and if it doesn't sing to you, sell it and buy the openworked.


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Old 13 August 2018, 10:57 PM   #3
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Are you kidding me? Lol

If I had to chose one: Openworked all the way!!!

But I love the Nautilus too.....
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Old 13 August 2018, 11:07 PM   #4
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the 11R feels too flimsy??
ok, u should sell it to me...price adjusted for that repair error in judgment
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Old 13 August 2018, 11:15 PM   #5
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Openworked. Don't fall for trends; buy what YOU enjoy, and then enjoy it.
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Old 13 August 2018, 11:22 PM   #6
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I can understand the lack of heft and sleek profile but wouldn’t call it flimsy!

But isn’t that part of the 5711 charm, it’s mean to be a low profile and sleek looking timepiece, as we are taking AP I’d compare it to the 15202.

You must of wanted the 5711 for a reason and liked it so why the change of heart? Maybe add the 15407 if you can?

I have the 15407 and plan to add a Nautilus which originally was thinking 5990 but now think the 5711a white is the top contender and that’s for its super sleek profile.
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Old 13 August 2018, 11:24 PM   #7
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It's a matter of taste, if you're not feeling the Nautilus...

Legibility is important to me, I'm not sure openworked is very legible, if you value legibility then make sure to consider it.
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Old 13 August 2018, 11:36 PM   #8
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It's a matter of taste, if you're not feeling the Nautilus...



Legibility is important to me, I'm not sure openworked is very legible, if you value legibility then make sure to consider it.


Depends on the openworked model as the 15407st has gold hands which stand out very well against the rhodium movement.

To give you an idea

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Old 13 August 2018, 11:40 PM   #9
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Legibility is important to me, I'm not sure openworked is very legible, if you value legibility then make sure to consider it.
Every time I see a photo of one, I think the exact same thing. Gorgeous piece and artwork for sure but this would be an issue for me as well. I wonder if in person it shows better?
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Old 13 August 2018, 11:45 PM   #10
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Every time I see a photo of one, I think the exact same thing. Gorgeous piece and artwork for sure but this would be an issue for me as well. I wonder if in person it shows better?


As above!



Thing is in most photos the light is reflecting off the hands which isn’t the case IRL.



Here’s a pic under strong lighting
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Old 13 August 2018, 11:59 PM   #11
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5711a white is the top contender and that’s for its super sleek profile.
Didn’t think I’d hear that

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Every time I see a photo of one, I think the exact same thing. Gorgeous piece and artwork for sure but this would be an issue for me as well. I wonder if in person it shows better?
Zero chance I’m looking at my wrist to tell the time if I’m wearing the openwork

I would actually avoid wearing it on days where productivity was required!
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Old 14 August 2018, 12:12 AM   #12
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Zero chance I’m looking at my wrist to tell the time if I’m wearing the openwork

I would actually avoid wearing it on days where productivity was required!
Yeah something about the strong white to black marker contrast and the low profile is pushing to to be my favourite Nautilus, plus for the price of the 5990 I can nearly have both the 5711 & 5164 which is my favourite PP (just come away both times from trying on the 5990 thinking it doesn’t sit as well as I had hoped)

And yeah you do find yourself gazing at the movement and forget to read the time
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Old 14 August 2018, 12:22 AM   #13
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Zero chance I’m looking at my wrist to tell the time if I’m wearing the openwork

That is true....
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Old 14 August 2018, 12:27 AM   #14
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Yeah something about the strong white to black marker contrast and the low profile is pushing to to be my favourite Nautilus, plus for the price of the 5990 I can nearly have both the 5711 & 5164 which is my favourite PP (just come away both times from trying on the 5990 thinking it doesn’t sit as well as I had hoped)

And yeah you do find yourself gazing at the movement and forget to read the time
I feel similarly. The white dial to me is nicer looking than the blue - more legible and cleaner. The white also does the chameleon colour changing trick like the blue - going from white to grey to sometimes silver depending on viewing angle and lighting. That and the rose gold are the ones I like.

I also have the blue on order but tbh thats just greed more than anything. I prefer my white and really look forward to receiving the rose.

And I really don't like the 5164........sometime about those large dial rectangles makes it look a touch cheap to me.
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Old 14 August 2018, 12:28 AM   #15
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I have the 15407 and plan to add a Nautilus which originally was thinking 5990 but now think the 5711a white is the top contender and that’s for its super sleek profile.
Both are excellent choices, but I would guide you to the 5990/1A...
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Old 14 August 2018, 12:29 AM   #16
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I had the openworked in 39mm and the novelty wore off for me. Legibility was an issue and at times the dial was too shiny/blingy (due to APs superb finishing of the movement). I felt it wasn't as wearable as my other Genta watches. I still have my 5711 in SS and it is more restrained which is what I like. The AP bracelet is going to feel more substantial due to its thickness.
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Old 14 August 2018, 12:31 AM   #17
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Btw AP showed me a ladies openworked the other day. Im sure I have a picture somewhere>

One for your better halves ?
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Old 14 August 2018, 12:47 AM   #18
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Openworked for sure!
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Old 14 August 2018, 01:00 AM   #19
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Here you go: what is this?
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Old 14 August 2018, 01:00 AM   #20
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Both are excellent choices, but I would guide you to the 5990/1A...
Tried it a couple of times already, it’s a nice piece but from a collection point of view the 5990 isn’t ideal, it’s larger case makes it slightly more sporty and for me know I’ll always reach for AP, I would like to add a slim low profile piece.
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Btw AP showed me a ladies openworked the other day. Im sure I have a picture somewhere>

One for your better halves ?
Yes the 37mm in frosted white gold (15466BC) or pink gold (15467OR) they both use the Cal 3132 but its slightly cut down by the minute counter ring and the Audemars Piguet text has moved from the 12 o’clock position to the crystal and lastly the movement has a lot lightly in tone rhodium finish to that of the 15407.
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Old 14 August 2018, 01:11 AM   #23
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Yes the 37mm in frosted white gold (15466BC) or pink gold (15467OR) they both use the Cal 3132 but its slightly cut down by the minute counter ring and the Audemars Piguet text has moved from the 12 o’clock position to the crystal and lastly the movement has a lot lightly in tone rhodium finish to that of the 15407.
Blimey - you are the fount of all AP knowledge!!
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Old 14 August 2018, 01:14 AM   #24
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15407 in a heartbeat. I like the PP Nautilus a lot, but the 5711 doesn’t appeal to me
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Old 14 August 2018, 01:21 AM   #25
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Old 14 August 2018, 02:16 AM   #26
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Openworked for me.
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Old 14 August 2018, 02:30 AM   #27
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If you want to stay with PP, and want some heft, try a 5980/1R. After trying on the 5711, it quickly became what I was looking for.

The openworked is a completely different piece. I don't think I can really compare the two.

As Sam said, maybe add the openworked (if possible)? There's definitely room in a collection for both, even if you have to wait some time.
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Old 14 August 2018, 03:22 AM   #28
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Wow if you think the RG is flimsy then all Nauts and ROs will be too girly for you so go for the real man ting.

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Old 14 August 2018, 06:06 AM   #29
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5711 is cool, but that openworked is a thing of art.
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Old 14 August 2018, 06:10 AM   #30
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Definitely 15407st for me.
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