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pp5575 · 14 June 2017, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RussW

So what is it then Brian - deal or no deal?

Russell: not decide yet.

Gator88 · 13 June 2017, 08:43 PM

If you have the money then why not. Just ask yourself, if the 5131p was priced at 200k or even 300k would you still buy it? In the end of the day if you have the money they why not.

benzng · 14 June 2017, 08:52 PM

Hi Brian, since you're not yet decided on the 5650.
Am I assuming London AD won't give you the 5131P? Maybe you tell Jamie you can wait for it in 2 years?
If not then maybe you can offer first time AD a "higher" price for their 5131P?

pp5575 · 15 June 2017, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by benzng

Hi Brian, since you're not yet decided on the 5650.
Am I assuming London AD won't give you the 5131P? Maybe you tell Jamie you can wait for it in 2 years?
If not then maybe you can offer first time AD a "higher" price for their 5131P?

Promise is a promise. I said "I will not ask 5131P if AD offers me 5131R".

I will not request it unless Jamie is happy to offer me without asking.

Jamie has other customers to deal with. I am sure many of his customers will ask 5131P from him.

Maybe it will discontinue within two years. Who knows?

ARNON · 15 June 2017, 01:35 AM

Such an AD should lose the right to represent Patek.

pp5575 · 15 June 2017, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ARNON

Such an AD should lose the right to represent Patek.

There are many ADs even sell over price list. I rememberd 5131G and J was asked more than twice price of list price in Taiwan.

Tony@KopiGau · 30 June 2017, 03:55 PM

How did it go in the end Brian? Counter offer may work if watch still available. 5% tax refund... is it in Sg?

pp5575 · 1 July 2017, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony@KopiGau

How did it go in the end Brian? Counter offer may work if watch still available. 5% tax refund... is it in Sg?

Tony, I didn't take the offer because it didn't take my counter offer. It is in Taiwan. You don't real get 5% tax refund and it is around 4% after fee.

Tony@KopiGau · 1 July 2017, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by pp5575

Tony, I didn't take the offer because it didn't take my counter offer. It is in Taiwan. You don't real get 5% tax refund and it is around 4% after fee.

No regrets, that 24 is simply not your taste or else you would have accepted the deal earlier. Let your regular AD work out for you since 5131p is a new model there will be more coming, and u may not need to be forced to get a bundle

pp5575 · 1 July 2017, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony@KopiGau

No regrets, that 24 is simply not your taste or else you would have accepted the deal earlier. Let your regular AD work out for you since 5131p is a new model there will be more coming, and u may not need to be forced to get a bundle

You are right. I should get 5131P from London AD if there is a chance to get it.

KarlS · 1 July 2017, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pp5575

You are right. I should get 5131P from London AD if there is a chance to get it.

But you said you weren't going to ask Jsmie for a P and the last few posts you were giving up the hobby, collecting tables and that Patek sucks following the destruction of the brown box!!

Defiancekofb · 2 July 2017, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by KarlS

Ahh ok Thiught you said you weren't going to be their customer anymore!
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...20#post7718520

Haha I didn't think he was serious, Brian appears to be a die hard Patek fan and that is a great understatement.

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Originally Posted by pp5575

Recently I got another offer for 5131P and 5650G, but condition is that I have to buy a lady diamond watch 4910/52G.

Attachment 868790

How do you like this offer?

Blackmail/Extortion, call it what you will. If you feel comfortable making the deal in your mind and financially then it's ultimately up to you.

PS - Your wife will be one happy lady.

pp5575 · 2 July 2017, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Defiancekofb

Haha I didn't think he was serious, Brian appears to be a die hard Patek fan and that is a great understatement.

Blackmail/Extortion, call it what you will. If you feel comfortable making the deal in your mind and financially then it's ultimately up to you.

PS - Your wife will be one happy lady.

Yes. You are right. I will buy patek watches if PP wants to sell the watch I like.

goog53 · 2 July 2017, 04:29 AM

Brian are you coming to NYC still or is your trip cancelled over this box issue? Was hoping we were still going to meet as planned

KarlS · 2 July 2017, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by goog53

Brian are you coming to NYC still or is your trip cancelled over this box issue? Was hoping we were still going to meet as planned

I was hoping for a picture of you, Thomas and Brian in a group shot holding the brown box!!

pp5575 · 3 July 2017, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by goog53

Brian are you coming to NYC still or is your trip cancelled over this box issue? Was hoping we were still going to meet as planned

Mike, I decide to cancel my trip to NY exhibition. Thank you for the invitation.

KarlS · 3 July 2017, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by pp5575

Mike, I decide to cancel my trip to NY exhibition. Thank you for the invitation.

Aahhhhh was hoping at least you would get the enamel MR!!

pp5575 · 4 July 2017, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KarlS

Aahhhhh was hoping at least you would get the enamel MR!!

Karls, I have no good relationship with US AD. It is impossible for me t o get it. No hope. why waste time ?

subtona · 22 July 2017, 08:09 AM

Missed this one.

texex91 · 22 July 2017, 08:22 AM

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GB-man · 22 July 2017, 08:52 AM

Lmfao now I know what happened

Andad · 22 July 2017, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

Lmfao now I know what happened

Especially as we don't really buy these watches we only sort of keep them for future generations?

tom2517 · 22 July 2017, 12:56 PM

Oh wow, ok.

I haven't bought any Patek lately so I haven't really visited this section of the forum and missed out on Bryan coming to this forum.

Based on his posts and his pictures I know who he is. He isn't a bad person but obviously a stubborn person and has a high opinion of himself and isn't afraid of saying what's on his mind. That's too bad, he could have some fun contribution to the forum.

Actually I have mentioned about him before, a long time ago in the forum. To this date Bryan believes he is the reason why Patek discontinued putting a number on certificate of origin that lets you know approximately when the watch was made. To make a long story short, many years ago Bryan went to a local Taiwan AD and wanted to buy a special Patek, the AD told him about a recently arrived new minute repeater and how hard it is to get a minute repeater. So Bryan bought it and obviously was happy to show this watch to family and friends, till one day a guy told him he has seen this minute repeater two years ago at the same AD.

Bryan not happy with this news and confronted the AD, and because at the time Patek has this number on the certificate of origin that lets you approximately know when the watch was produced, so armed with this information, Bryan also emailed Patek and made formal complaint (and oh yeah, Bryan shared these emails on the Taiwanese forum too, so he sure is not afraid of showing emails). Patek was stuck at a place where they wanted to defend the AD but can't get around the fact that Bryan knows the watch wasn't produced recently, so they made the AD took the watch back, and you know what, a couple of months later, new Patek watches no longer came with that number on the certificate of origin.

Bryan also shared some other stories on the Taiwanese forum such as his problematic 5016 and complained the poor workmanship on watch this expensive, that he would send the watch to Patek to repair one problem but the watch would come back with another problem.

He got into arguments with forum moderator who likes to attack him so Bryan then accused the moderator of siding with the AD because the forum is taking sponsor money from the local ADs. Needless to say Bryan was then banned (though based on those exchanges, I would side with Bryan). Bryan then started to go to China Patek forums and is very popular there, many there likes to hear his opinion on Patek. But that forum has died down (no Bryan isn't banned there) and I guess he has moved on to here....

Defiancekofb · 22 July 2017, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tom2517

Oh wow, ok.

I haven't bought any Patek lately so I haven't really visited this section of the forum and missed out on Bryan coming to this forum.

Based on his posts and his pictures I know who he is. He isn't a bad person but obviously a stubborn person and has a high opinion of himself and isn't afraid of saying what's on his mind. That's too bad, he could have some fun contribution to the forum.

Actually I have mentioned about him before, a long time ago in the forum. To this date Bryan believes he is the reason why Patek discontinued putting a number on certificate of origin that lets you know approximately when the watch was made. To make a long story short, many years ago Bryan went to a local Taiwan AD and wanted to buy a special Patek, the AD told him about a recently arrived new minute repeater and how hard it is to get a minute repeater. So Bryan bought it and obviously was happy to show this watch to family and friends, till one day a guy told him he has seen this minute repeater two years ago at the same AD.

Bryan not happy with this news and confronted the AD, and because at the time Patek has this number on the certificate of origin that lets you approximately know when the watch was produced, so armed with this information, Bryan also emailed Patek and made formal complaint (and oh yeah, Bryan shared these emails on the Taiwanese forum too, so he sure is not afraid of showing emails). Patek was stuck at a place where they wanted to defend the AD but can't get around the fact that Bryan knows the watch wasn't produced recently, so they made the AD took the watch back, and you know what, a couple of months later, new Patek watches no longer came with that number on the certificate of origin.

Bryan also shared some other stories on the Taiwanese forum such as his problematic 5016 and complained the poor workmanship on watch this expensive, that he would send the watch to Patek to repair one problem but the watch would come back with another problem.

He got into arguments with forum moderator who likes to attack him so Bryan then accused the moderator of siding with the AD because the forum is taking sponsor money from the local ADs. Needless to say Bryan was then banned (though based on those exchanges, I would side with Bryan). Bryan then started to go to China Patek forums and is very popular there, many there likes to hear his opinion on Patek. But that forum has died down (no Bryan isn't banned there) and I guess he has moved on to here....

But I'm not sure if it's a cultural thing, or Bryan just has a massive ego that will not allow him to apologize for the mistake he made. For example say I get you a job interview at the company I work at and you arrive late or unprepared. That would be your fault and would reflect bad on my reputation to my superiors. A simple apology would have sufficed, but Bryan did not want to give one, Bryan kept making excuses, this forum is a small world and your reputation is all you have, once tarnished that's the final nail in the coffin.

incontrol · 22 July 2017, 01:02 PM

And now he is no longer here. I got more than a few laughs from him.

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codecow · 22 July 2017, 01:40 PM

I liked him originally, a shame really...

GB-man · 22 July 2017, 02:53 PM

Not just this forum that's small and tightly knit...it's the entire watch collecting world.

There's no room for poor form as news travels fast.

KarlS · 22 July 2017, 03:04 PM

I am sure he will pop up again..,but was excellent fun sending him off to get better and better gifts...i was running out of ideas after that golf bag!

RussW · 22 July 2017, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KarlS

I am sure he will pop up again..,but was excellent fun sending him off to get better and better gifts...i was running out of ideas after that golf bag!

And I don't think he even played golf

Someone posted a wholesale price list on here a few years ago. It was obviously deleted, and for good reason. I have a feeling that was Brian but I can't be 100% sure. He should have been banned then as it was clearly posted to be vindictive.

Will be funny if he's still visiting this forum, but unable to reply!!

KarlS · 22 July 2017, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RussW

And I don't think he even played golf

Someone posted a wholesale price list on here a few years ago. It was obviously deleted, and for good reason. I have a feeling that was Brian but I can't be 100% sure. He should have been banned then as it was clearly posted to be vindictive.

Will be funny if he's still visiting this forum, but unable to reply!!

We were one watch away from Jamie providing the clubs for the bag!!

15 June 2017, 01:35 AM	#5
ARNON "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Noni Location: Area 51 Posts: 18	No brainer. PASS. AD should be ashamed !!!! Such an AD should lose the right to represent Patek. __________________

2 July 2017, 04:29 AM	#14
goog53 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Mike G Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex-Patek-AP Posts: 3,063	Brian are you coming to NYC still or is your trip cancelled over this box issue? Was hoping we were still going to meet as planned __________________ The only thing better than the watches are the people behind them. "The best watch in the world is the one that's on your wrist." Morgan King "Do you like having a good time? Then you need a good watch!" Rocky Balboa

22 July 2017, 08:09 AM	#19
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,054	Missed this one. __________________

22 July 2017, 08:52 AM	#21
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,959	Lmfao now I know what happened __________________

22 July 2017, 01:02 PM	#25
incontrol "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Kevin Location: Somewhere in PA Watch: All of them... Posts: 10,355	And now he is no longer here. I got more than a few laughs from him. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Patek Philippe Rolex

13 June 2017, 08:43 PM	#2
Gator88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Malaysia Posts: 35	If you have the money then why not. Just ask yourself, if the 5131p was priced at 200k or even 300k would you still buy it? In the end of the day if you have the money they why not.

14 June 2017, 08:52 PM	#3
benzng "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Real Name: Benson Location: ASIA Posts: 266	Hi Brian, since you're not yet decided on the 5650. Am I assuming London AD won't give you the 5131P? Maybe you tell Jamie you can wait for it in 2 years? If not then maybe you can offer first time AD a "higher" price for their 5131P?

30 June 2017, 03:55 PM	#7
Tony@KopiGau "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Real Name: Tony Location: SF HK Posts: 70	How did it go in the end Brian? Counter offer may work if watch still available. 5% tax refund... is it in Sg?

22 July 2017, 12:56 PM	#23
tom2517 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Asia & US Posts: 1,550	Oh wow, ok. I haven't bought any Patek lately so I haven't really visited this section of the forum and missed out on Bryan coming to this forum. Based on his posts and his pictures I know who he is. He isn't a bad person but obviously a stubborn person and has a high opinion of himself and isn't afraid of saying what's on his mind. That's too bad, he could have some fun contribution to the forum. Actually I have mentioned about him before, a long time ago in the forum. To this date Bryan believes he is the reason why Patek discontinued putting a number on certificate of origin that lets you know approximately when the watch was made. To make a long story short, many years ago Bryan went to a local Taiwan AD and wanted to buy a special Patek, the AD told him about a recently arrived new minute repeater and how hard it is to get a minute repeater. So Bryan bought it and obviously was happy to show this watch to family and friends, till one day a guy told him he has seen this minute repeater two years ago at the same AD. Bryan not happy with this news and confronted the AD, and because at the time Patek has this number on the certificate of origin that lets you approximately know when the watch was produced, so armed with this information, Bryan also emailed Patek and made formal complaint (and oh yeah, Bryan shared these emails on the Taiwanese forum too, so he sure is not afraid of showing emails). Patek was stuck at a place where they wanted to defend the AD but can't get around the fact that Bryan knows the watch wasn't produced recently, so they made the AD took the watch back, and you know what, a couple of months later, new Patek watches no longer came with that number on the certificate of origin. Bryan also shared some other stories on the Taiwanese forum such as his problematic 5016 and complained the poor workmanship on watch this expensive, that he would send the watch to Patek to repair one problem but the watch would come back with another problem. He got into arguments with forum moderator who likes to attack him so Bryan then accused the moderator of siding with the AD because the forum is taking sponsor money from the local ADs. Needless to say Bryan was then banned (though based on those exchanges, I would side with Bryan). Bryan then started to go to China Patek forums and is very popular there, many there likes to hear his opinion on Patek. But that forum has died down (no Bryan isn't banned there) and I guess he has moved on to here....

22 July 2017, 01:40 PM	#26
codecow "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Louis Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: PP 5131R Posts: 4,868	I liked him originally, a shame really...

22 July 2017, 02:53 PM	#27
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,959	Not just this forum that's small and tightly knit...it's the entire watch collecting world. There's no room for poor form as news travels fast. __________________

22 July 2017, 03:04 PM	#28
KarlS Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Karl Location: Kuwait Posts: 5,228	I am sure he will pop up again..,but was excellent fun sending him off to get better and better gifts...i was running out of ideas after that golf bag!

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