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Old 5 August 2019, 05:29 AM   #1
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Estate Sale Kermit

Hello all!

I am going to an estate sale in a few weeks and this was among the posted photos. I believe I will have an opportunity to buy this 16610V for a song since it is an estate sale that wants to move everything at once.

This person's other watches are all relativity cheap (think Movado.) The only reason I have hope is the house is over $3MM and the area is very wealthy.

I have 3 watches and generally know the weight, look, quality and feel of a genuine Rolex but i am very far from being an expert.

1. What would you do in this situation?

2. What can I do to authenticate this watch while at the estate sale?

3. Thoughts on the picture?


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Old 5 August 2019, 05:38 AM   #2
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Upload pic to a hosting service like imgur than paste link in your thread. Its not difficult

Will not click on links. Too risky
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Old 5 August 2019, 05:48 AM   #3
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Glad its not just me clicking on links. Be interesting to see some pics posted though.
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Old 5 August 2019, 05:49 AM   #4
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Upload pic to a hosting service like imgur than paste link in your thread. Its not difficult

Will not click on links. Too risky
I DLed Tapatalk and did it thru there. See image above, thanks!
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Old 5 August 2019, 06:01 AM   #5
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Hard to tell anything from that low rez pic at that angle. Indices look a little small for a maxidial.

As an aside Estate sales are notorious for passing dodgy high value items like watches. I'd try and get better pics of the dial and back.
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Old 5 August 2019, 06:56 AM   #6
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Hard to tell anything from that low rez pic at that angle. Indices look a little small for a maxidial.

As an aside Estate sales are notorious for passing dodgy high value items like watches. I'd try and get better pics of the dial and back.


Thank you so much. I have asked for more photos.


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Old 5 August 2019, 07:09 AM   #7
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Fake. 100% rubbish for the bin. Avoid. Case closed.
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Old 5 August 2019, 07:11 AM   #8
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Fake. 100% rubbish for the bin. Avoid. Case closed.
Im inclined to agree; what finalized it for you?
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Old 5 August 2019, 07:14 AM   #9
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EDIT: I shouldn't say.. lets just say it looks nothing like an LV should.. and the estate sale, 2nd only to the Grandfather story.
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Old 5 August 2019, 07:27 AM   #10
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EDIT: I shouldn't say.. lets just say it looks nothing like an LV should.. and the estate sale, 2nd only to the Grandfather story.
Can you PM it to me then?
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Old 5 August 2019, 07:37 AM   #11
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Look at the rehaut black printing ouch
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Old 5 August 2019, 07:40 AM   #12
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Can you PM it to me then?
you're welcome.
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Old 5 August 2019, 07:50 AM   #13
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Sad part is some noob will pay thousands for it with no recourse, unless sales people take CC. Just sad.
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Old 5 August 2019, 08:07 AM   #14
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Sad part is some noob will pay thousands for it with no recourse, unless sales people take CC. Just sad.


I was almost that noob. Thank you all.


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Old 5 August 2019, 08:42 AM   #15
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These people who organize 'estate sales' bring in goods from many different sources. Watches are easy to slip into the inventory. So the fact its in a well to do neighborhood is meaningless.
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Old 5 August 2019, 09:06 AM   #16
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Looks very fake, even from that pic.

Fat crown guards, low rehaut, etc.
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Old 5 August 2019, 09:12 AM   #17
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That crown guard is freakishly huge.

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Old 5 August 2019, 11:57 AM   #18
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My opinion FAKE
Based on the watch beside it surely fake - I got no reason to suspect the Kermit to be
Plus, it doesn't look genuine
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Old 5 August 2019, 12:24 PM   #19
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Old 5 August 2019, 03:32 PM   #20
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Estate Sale is such a lousy characterization of these events.
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Old 5 August 2019, 04:05 PM   #21
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In this day and age of internet information, estate sales selling true high end watches makes no sense, and is largely fictional. Most estate sales are managed by companies or professionals who run sales like this for a living. Their job is to make money. Anyone putting on an estate sale with a Rolex is going to do a simple internet search to see what the watch is worth, and will price accordingly. If the estate is run by family heirs, most anyone with any sense of fiscal responsibility would research the value of what seem to be the most valuable items, and sell them at what the market will bear.
All these estate sales, police auctions, etc. prey on every watch collector’s fantasy: namely that we are going to come across some little old lady who has her dead husband’s vintage Rolex with box and papers in a desk drawer, and she is willing to sell it for $1000 because she doesn’t know any better. I have yet to see any genuine Rolex pieces that were acquired this way, or at least for significantly less money than what you can find on easily searchable forums. Yes there is the story of the guy who got the Vintage Jaeger deep sea alarm for like $25 at a Goodwill. But that guy won the lottery in my opinion, despite the fact that all the rest of us who have been to a pawn shop, estate sale or goodwill also bought tickets and won nothing.
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Old 5 August 2019, 04:16 PM   #22
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What is that watch on the left?
I can't read the brand name but it looks like a Fake pseudo-Tourbillon with a pathetic badly finished bridge.

That alone should give you an indicator about how real that LV is.
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Old 5 August 2019, 05:12 PM   #23
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Watch is junk. No additional photos needed. Even with the horrible photo you can see many easy tells it is far from genuine. Glad you decided to pass.
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Old 5 August 2019, 06:44 PM   #24
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Instantly grossed out at the crownguards. Blarg.
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Old 6 August 2019, 12:30 AM   #25
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Never having been to an estate sale, are items always sold "as is"? Does it vary from sale to sale? I assume the auction company would not warrant any item it sells, simply because they don't have the expertise and might not even know where the item originated.
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Old 6 August 2019, 01:01 AM   #26
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You are not going to find a proper Rolex in an estate sale at an auction or as part of a cheap job lot bundle. As someone noted above, this is the internet age where information on any subject can be gleaned in an instant. The auction company are not going to miss a trick, these auctioneers are some of the most fly and wide individuals you will encounter in any trade.
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Old 6 August 2019, 04:11 PM   #27
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You are not going to find a proper Rolex in an estate sale at an auction or as part of a cheap job lot bundle. As someone noted above, this is the internet age where information on any subject can be gleaned in an instant. The auction company are not going to miss a trick, these auctioneers are some of the most fly and wide individuals you will encounter in any trade.


This is utterly false.
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Old 7 August 2019, 07:00 AM   #28
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Ok. Prove me wrong. Go find me a Rolex in an estate sale or part of a cheap bundle at auction and an auctioneer that doesn’t know what he’s looking at..
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Old 11 August 2019, 11:31 AM   #29
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Fakeeeeee
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Old 14 August 2019, 11:00 AM   #30
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Definitely fake. Crown guards look horible, insert is junk, dial looks pretty bad also. Even the crown looks bad.

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