New Releases for 2020

[Jackumi]

I think Basel 2020 releases will be a little dull. I think they have finished tinkering with the GMT line and turn to the Sub. Which will get the new movement plus a Rose Gold TT version.

[Frank McKay]

Originally Posted by Ravager135

Agreed. And it's a dumb idea. Why homogenize the line and turn it into a GMT-Master II? The stainless steel bezel is one of the signature design cues of the reference. Changing that for the sake of throwing more ceramic around would be a mistake.

I can't get over how many times I see posts where people basically want to scale the Explorer II back down to 40mm and give it a ceramic bezel. It sounds like people just want a GMT-Master II with an orange hand.

Couldn’t agree more.

[chloebear]

Originally Posted by Ravager135

Agreed. And it's a dumb idea. Why homogenize the line and turn it into a GMT-Master II? The stainless steel bezel is one of the signature design cues of the reference. Changing that for the sake of throwing more ceramic around would be a mistake.

I can't get over how many times I see posts where people basically want to scale the Explorer II back down to 40mm and give it a ceramic bezel. It sounds like people just want a GMT-Master II with an orange hand.

I always think that too Evan. Everyone wants to change the Explorer II to the GMT. The stainless steel bezel is what separates it from everything else. That and the 42mm case.

[pkincy]

Originally Posted by Muxi

I wonder how accurately Tim Mosso is able to predict new releases. He consistently claims there will be a Daytona redesign next year.

Why redesign something that is not obtainable. Maybe just an announcement they will double Daytona production.

[Nav01L]

Originally Posted by Dlong

New Coke is years away. They are going to ride the Pepsi and Batman wave as long as you they can. Why dilute the waters.

I think you’re right, in addition to that, to make a coke, they would have to develop a ceramic in a really striking red, which so far has only been done (and patented) by the good folks at Hublot (which found the formula by accident, as the story would have it). I don’t really see Rolex licensing in patents from Hublot, and considering the only ones who managed to do a stable and strong red ceramic so far got there by chance alone, it seems it would be a pretty hard thing for Rolex to do without using such patents.

[Clasper]

I think most likely some ceramic bezels on other Daytonas such as TTs or Gold PMs


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[Jamie1111]

Originally Posted by galveston22

Coke with jubilee
Sub with updated movement and PCLs



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Doubt they’ll polish the links on a divers watch.


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[padi56]

Originally Posted by Nm26

I have been doing some reading on the forum and looked back at everyone’s predictions for Basel 2019. I was surprised that a lot of the speculation proved to be somewhat accurate. I am interested in hearing everyones predictions for 2020. I have heard rumors about a new sub this upcoming year which would be awesome. I also read about the possibility of a new Coke which is super exciting in my opinion. I know this is just speculation and no one knows for certain besides Rolex, but wanted to open the floor for discussion. Thanks


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Well if like Basel over the past 40 odd years you can count on one hand the real new watches released by Rolex.As most today are just cosmetically changed old ones, but today they only got to say change a colour bezel,change a bracelet,change a few screws and it becomes a new model to some.

[Shrek32]

As a Milgaus owner would love to see the model discontinued, would make this unloved Rolex a much more desirable watch to own..

[Rosex]

2020 will be a big year for the Explorer.

New Sub is almost a guarantee.

No new GMT, that will get a rest for a few years.

That's my 2c on 20/08/2019

[Wildy]

I could see them dropping the JC DSSD and replacing it with a green bezel/ dial.

[jsausley]

I don't expect the ceramic Exp II and the Submariner updates in the same year. Too much new at once.

My 2020 prediction is a revamp of the Submariner line.

1) Submariner Date gets the new movement. All PM and TT Subs also get the new movement.

2) Submariner No Date is either left alone for one year, or dropped for one year.

3) Submariner Hulk is dropped, but will probably come back later

4) Rose Gold Submariner Date.

2021 I think we get an all new color Submariner, probably dark blue, which will drive hypebeasts nuts.

[baraj1466]

Rolex smart watch. This I have to see.

[acfcheung]

Originally Posted by Dougiebaby

A Coke would be a show stealer. I have a feeling it would be more attractive (black & red ceramic probably could be executed more accurately) than the Pepsi ... and probably would become the new “it” piece.

Interestingly, a YouTuber (London Watch Collector) predicts that the BLNR will be discontinued in 2020 or 2021 believing Rolex is using inventory of BLNR bezels up before making switch.

I would feel certain whenever Rolex releases new Sub, they will want it to be the show stealer. So, I predict new Sub in 2020 with slightly slimmer lugs (like current GMTs) and new 32__ movement. For some reason, I also predict that the Sub ND will be discontinued temporarily for 2020. Then in 2021 or 2022 reintroduced with case & movement upgrades. I wouldn’t be surprised that Hulk would be discontinued - and brought back a year later it possibly replaced by a SS Blue Sub.

I think BLNR continues until Coke release in 2021, when it will be retired. Maybe an all black GMT would return in 2021 with jubilee.


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the new GMTs have slimmer lugs?

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[Calatrava r]

Originally Posted by Ravager135

Agreed. And it's a dumb idea. Why homogenize the line and turn it into a GMT-Master II? The stainless steel bezel is one of the signature design cues of the reference. Changing that for the sake of throwing more ceramic around would be a mistake.

I can't get over how many times I see posts where people basically want to scale the Explorer II back down to 40mm and give it a ceramic bezel. It sounds like people just want a GMT-Master II with an orange hand.

I suspect the ceramic is cheaper to do at this point as it slowly creeps across the line.

[Dougiebaby]

Originally Posted by acfcheung

the new GMTs have slimmer lugs?

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Yes, you can see the difference on my short vid comparing my new BLNR & ND Sub


https://youtu.be/hBybAZNEzzA


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[Shihan]

Originally Posted by 18●20●22●▼●2●4●6

I heard that we might see Cellini Chronograph...

oooooh interesting...

[ny_yeti]

Originally Posted by nexus.achiles

sd43 bluesy.

yes!

[finestdealer]

Looks like something I would be interested in

[GMTMasterDallas]

We need an update to the steel and gold Daytonas. They need to be fitted with a ceramic bezel like much of the rest of the line.

[Spartans71]

I know it’s highly unlikely, but I’m hoping that the oyster bracelet is brought back as an option for the Batman.

[DoctorA]

With a letdown 2019 and an anniversary year for Explorer, I’m expecting a big year release next year
Not expecting a coke but a new Explorer ii probably and a new Movement for the sub

[mikkey]

I'm patiently waiting for them to impress me. lol

[Carry The Interest]

Originally Posted by 18●20●22●▼●2●4●6

I heard that we might see Cellini Chronograph...

I actually think this would be a good move on Rolex's part to bring more awareness to the Cellini line. They did a fantastic job with the moonphase a few years ago but that targets a very niche audience with regards to a complication on a dress watch. Both Lange and Patek have done well with chronograph dress watches -- this would be the best complication to add to the Cellini line-up.

[hdfb910]

Platinum NO Date Sub with ice blue dial Black ceramic bezel

[strafer_kid]

Originally Posted by Duey

Totally

who really cares what gets released if you can't purchase it

True.....and its hard to see how this will change as things currently stand...if anything, the frenzy and hype is only likely to incresae?

[Jackumi]

Originally Posted by Dougiebaby

Yes, you can see the difference on my short vid comparing my new BLNR & ND Sub


https://youtu.be/hBybAZNEzzA


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I think the difference in the lugs is an optical delusion!

[Ravager135]

Originally Posted by chloebear

I always think that too Evan. Everyone wants to change the Explorer II to the GMT. The stainless steel bezel is what separates it from everything else. That and the 42mm case.

Agree. I think the 40mm Explorer II was excellent, but it didn't sell well and that had a lot to do with the fact that it was technically a less functional clone of the GMT-Master II. The white dial has always been a nice option, but increasing the size gave consumers some variety without completely redesigning the piece.

I've had mixed feelings about the Sea-Dweller at 43mm. I understand the move for the same reasons I understood increasing the size of the Explorer II to draw some contrast. At the same time, it does seem like a sized up clone of the Submariner now that the cyclops is also added. Regardless, I think it was smart of Rolex to meet the demands of consumers who were starting to wear larger watches by re-imagining a less popular model at larger size (but at the same time bringing back the orange hand to tie it to its heritage).

[Divingdeep87]

Originally Posted by Shrek32

As a Milgaus owner would love to see the model discontinued, would make this unloved Rolex a much more desirable watch to own..

Soooooo you don’t own it because you like it now?

[Lemieux66]

I predict another unexpected Oysterflex model.