Tantrum Time

[train-time]

Just wait, once they double the MSRP of the SS Sport models there will be plenty for anybody who wants one. It's coming!

[Widows Son]

This is probably apples and oranges but here goes...Years ago new Harleys were nearly impossible to get, nary a one on the showroom floor. Rumor had it that they were exporting about 40% overseas thus creating an artificial price increase. People got fed up and either went to other brands, or never got involved in the sport. An entire generation of customers was lost. Today the average Harley owner is 60+ years of age. Millennals aren't getting driver's licenses much less motorcycle endorsements. Not sure if this is a valid comparison or not, but I have heard that younger people want to spend their money on "experiences," not things. If someone wants to spend 2X MSRP, go ahead, no skin off my nose.

[Jackumi]

Originally Posted by Monty22

Not trying to be crass, but the difference between 10k and 14k isn’t that great in the big scheme of things. Perhaps you should consider a different reference or brand in this environment


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OP is in the UK and the grey dealer (Watchfinder's) he is referring to is in the UK. I have just checked their site and for a 2017 BLNR they are asking 14,950GBP. I believe before they were discontinued this year the MSRP in the UK was around 6,850GBP.

[42itus]

It’s funny that OP asks to increase production, but not too much. So basically he wants production to be increased just enough to be able to buy one.

OP, I want to ask you a question. I ask myself the same thing all the time.

If this particular reference was available anywhere, anytime, knowing that you would take a 15% hit off the bat, would you still want it?

[Jackumi]

Originally Posted by 42itus

It’s funny that OP asks to increase production, but not too much. So basically he wants production to be increased just enough to be able to buy one.

OP, I want to ask you a question. I ask myself the same thing all the time.

If this particular reference was available anywhere, anytime, knowing that you would take a 15% hit off the bat, would you still want it?

+1

I am a fan of two tone Rolex watches and own three models, fortunately for me these models are more readily available at MSRP or at a discount. I wear one every day and the look and feel of their quality gives me a lot of pleasure. I choose my watches that appeal to me and purchase them without concern for resale value, although I am aware that most all Rolex models tend to hold value better that most other brands. I have no interest in SS models, I just find them visually bland. However I fully understand that most people far prefer the SS models and I am sympathetic to anyone who is unable to purchase the model of their choice at a reasonable price. That said I am at a loss to quite understand the level of deprivation that many feel when they cannot easily obtain their model of choice. I like many others have commented on here put a lot of this down to the basic human nature that the higher the level of difficulty there is in obtaining something the higher the level of desirability it becomes in that persons eyes.

[jimcameron]

Omega, Ball, Oris, etc......

[rootbeer7]

There’s some rather peculiar answers here about whether if you can’t afford grey can you afford mrsp. In the UK the grey is double that of mrsp. There is a huge difference in cost. If mrsp was £15k you either can or can’t afford it. This is a question of relative value.

OP, the situation is what it is. It will change eventually as these pieces are not in any way rare and you are correct that are reaching the wrong people (not the ones here who genuinely love their watches). Two things might happen, firstly, if demand drops as the general public can’t get these pieces, the price will even out, or the mrsp rises to the grey price you’ll pay now, if demand doesn’t wain.
Personally, I’d look elsewhere. I love my Panerai which offers far more watch for the money.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by Blink65

I canney afford it

But that is the whole point, that is the price to buy now and price exclusivity is what has always kept Rolex as a luxury brand that is highly sought after, it is no different to someone who can only save £2K but wants a £5K Rolex, he can scream all he wants but he, like 99% of the population, just can't afford the Rolex today.

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by Blink65

Right, I'm having a tantrum. I'm so fed up with the inability to purchase any of the rolex steel sports watches from ADs.
I can't afford to pay double to buy the dam thing on watchfinder!

I want to wear the thing every day and enjoy it, not flog it the second i get my hands on it.
It's so frustrating to see how many of these watches are just brought to be sold straight on for profit.

AND GUESS WHAT!
Those people who have the 'relationship' with the ADs that keep getting the watches... Yea i'm sure plenty of them are the ones flipping the watches.

Solution - Lie detector test when someone goes to purchase a watch.
Alternatively, PRODUCE MORE WATCHES, stop wasting time on the gold and other versions and focus on the steel ones that everyone wants to purchase.

Make more of them = grey market problem resolved = rolex happy = me happy = everyone else happy.

P.s. i'm not saying make millions of them, i get there is a certain exclusivity to Rolex watches, but make enough so that people like me who actually want one (and i'm sure lots of you) can actually buy the things! without either buying 10 watches i don't want from my AD and still not getting it, or paying 15 grand on watch finder.

Tantrum over.

I Shall await your abusive messages calling me entitled, and colorfully letting me know that I know nothing about the Rolex buisness model.

Tantrum Really over now.

Maybe best going for a Tudor, or a less desirable Rolex model.

[Chaching]

Hilarious!

[42itus]

Originally Posted by Jackumi

+1

That said I am at a loss to quite understand the level of deprivation that many feel when they cannot easily obtain their model of choice.

And I don't get the flip side as well. When one gets "the call", I read about reactions ranging from "I couldn't stop shaking" and "I thought I was going to cry". Maybe I'm just lacking that kind of passion, but I don't get it. I'll cry when my son writes a touching message in a Father's Day card and stuff like that, but I don't think I'll ever reach that kind of elation over a watch or any material possession.

[brucethemanlee]

If you're spending that kind of money on a watch at MSRP but can't afford 2x then I don't think you should be really buying a luxury watch at that price range and go down a level or two


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[Ticknaway]

Originally Posted by CptCanuck

Rolex doesn't want people like you to have it. That us the point. Exclusivity.

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I don’t think Rolex gives a F about who buys their watches!! ADs that may be a different story all together. OP Rolex isn’t the end all of watches look around you might be surprised what’s available from other brands, try JLC!

[Blink65]

just having a lil laugh buddy x

Originally Posted by ninjin

get a life... It's such a first world problem.

[Blink65]

Honest truth yes, i love the watch and have literally no intention of ever selling the thing

Originally Posted by 42itus

It’s funny that OP asks to increase production, but not too much. So basically he wants production to be increased just enough to be able to buy one.

OP, I want to ask you a question. I ask myself the same thing all the time.

If this particular reference was available anywhere, anytime, knowing that you would take a 15% hit off the bat, would you still want it?

[Blink65]

Originally Posted by AK797

But that is the whole point, that is the price to buy now and price exclusivity is what has always kept Rolex as a luxury brand that is highly sought after, it is no different to someone who can only save £2K but wants a £5K Rolex, he can scream all he wants but he, like 99% of the population, just can't afford the Rolex today.

not at all
the watch i wan't cost 7,500 GBP. Why sould I pay an asshole an extra 7k because he bought one so he could sell it straight to me

[42itus]

Originally Posted by Blink65

Honest truth yes, i love the watch and have literally no intention of ever selling the thing

I honestly wish Rolex watches depreciated like other brands for this reason. I’ll hopefully never have to sell them.


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