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Old 12 September 2018, 09:15 AM   #31
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Not much discount from ADs on ANY model these days even on PM pieces.

Times are not the same. You can still save a bit buying from Gray dealers but from an AD you will be lucky to get any discount.
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Old 12 September 2018, 09:16 AM   #32
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Old 12 September 2018, 09:33 AM   #33
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What watch are you looking to buy? That will make a difference in the response you get. If it is a SS Sub or GMT, I say ask, but any AD will shut you down quickly. A DJ or a TT or PM model, maybe??? Never hurts to ask. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.


You are right! I am saving for a platinum Daytona. Gonna take some time. But hey, it’s my dream piece.


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Old 12 September 2018, 09:34 AM   #34
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Anything can happen, if you do not mention Ebay and if you call/visit a small AD! Be ready to purchase (no games) and state: I buy it right now for 5, 10, 15 % discount etc. Believe it or not, I got my ND with a discount one month ago. And they gained my business for future purchases. Smart guys.


Boom! That’s my thoughts. You treat me well, I will keep coming back.


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Old 12 September 2018, 09:35 AM   #35
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You are right! I am saving for a platinum Daytona. Gonna take some time. But hey, it’s my dream piece.
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Thats a big baller watch. You will love it.
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Old 12 September 2018, 09:43 AM   #36
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I was told to pound sand on TT model. So, it appears discounting across the board has tightened up.



You never know if you don't ask though. Glad I asked.
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Old 12 September 2018, 09:52 AM   #37
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Yes, you can certainly ask for discount for all those Rolex sitting in the display cases.
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Old 12 September 2018, 09:54 AM   #38
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V25V, you are on it! I bought an older SS Daytona from Fred there in Tysons. They seem pretty firm on not offering a discount. They have good pieces. Do you think they will give a 10%. How to approach them?


I doubt it. You can go in and ask but they get a lot of traffic and people asking for discounts, pretty sure their answer is the same for most.


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Old 12 September 2018, 09:59 AM   #39
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Lmao!! Small ADs maybe on the scrap watches they have left. ZERO discount on the big shops
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Old 12 September 2018, 10:13 AM   #40
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One of my very best friends got a big fat ZERO discount on even a DJ from an AD last week. Even a DD40 from an AD I could only get 5% off. I didnt buy it and it was from an AD i did multiple deals with before.

These days if you plan to buy from an AD MSRP is becoming the norm.
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Old 12 September 2018, 10:15 AM   #41
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Why should they discount?
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Old 12 September 2018, 10:16 AM   #42
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Pattyb69, I am learning. I want the platinum Daytona with baguette hour markers.
I would look around at our TS selection and then take that number shopping with you.
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Old 12 September 2018, 10:27 AM   #43
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Why should they discount?


I would say, to secure business ADs should give a discount. When demand is high, there is no need other than to secure a buyer when times get tough. No discount also means I am free to take my business to someone more friendly/ willing to get me to come back or bring clients. But right now it’s pretty tough. I am hoping that cash makes them move a little.


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Old 12 September 2018, 10:28 AM   #44
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I would look around at our TS selection and then take that number shopping with you.


I’m new here. What is TS selection again?


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Old 12 September 2018, 10:30 AM   #45
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I would say, to secure business ADs should give a discount. When demand is high, there is no need other than to secure a buyer when times get tough. No discount also means I am free to take my business to someone more friendly/ willing to get me to come back or bring clients. But right now it’s pretty tough. I am hoping that cash makes them move a little.


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cash won't do much if anything at big AD chains or ADs in big cities. you have to go to a small AD outside cities, that's how i got a bit over 20% on a dd36 2 months ago, and they even had to order it because they didn't have much stock to begin with lol. i definitely got lucky though, but i also got 15% at another AD nearby that same day on the same watch that was sitting in the case, and both with no negotiating

there is little point in even trying if you go to ADs with a lot of traffic. i went around all the ADs in nyc while i was trying to decide on the spec i wanted and i asked all of them about discounts and the best i got was like 6% off at tournaeu which at first was like 3% until i said if they give me a good deal i'll take it today, and wempe would've shipped out of state. i assume it would be pretty much the same story in other big cities
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Old 12 September 2018, 11:11 AM   #46
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I live in DC and Lenkensdorfer is not going to give you a discount for cash. Same goes for Liljenquist (sister store) or TJB downtown. You are not the only person in any of those markets mentioned who aren't going into debt to get a watch. They take my AMEX and I take the points, MSRP.
Do you think Liljenquist will give a discount on a Cellini ?
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Old 12 September 2018, 11:14 AM   #47
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All due respect, you are buying a circa 80k watch in cash??

And you are not sure how to go about asking for a discount?

Something doesn’t add up.
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Old 12 September 2018, 11:15 AM   #48
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I know Rolex is on fire right now but on this particular watch you better ask for a discount, unless you just want to flush 20k down the toilet. Doesn't matter if your ever going to sell or not, this watch can be had for way under MSRP on the second hand market. If it was me, I'd politely tell them you want to purchase, but you'd need a solid discount to pull the trigger. If they decline, move on to the next. If they offer something small, then I'd lay my cards on the table and say this is what I need to get this done today. Never hurts to try, ever. Whats the worst that could happen? They say no? As long as your not demanding or acting entitled to it you have nothing to lose. Its one heck of a piece so enjoy the whole experience.
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Old 12 September 2018, 11:20 AM   #49
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All due respect, you are buying a circa 80k watch in cash??

And you are not sure how to go about asking for a discount?

Something doesn’t add up.
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Old 12 September 2018, 11:23 AM   #50
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Honestly. I would have a really hard time buying a platinum Daytona from an AD.

I love my AD dearly and will buy a WG Sub one day. He knows it won’t be from him. The PM watches take too much of a hit as soon as you walk out the door.

Not sure what msrp is but DavidSW has a new with all plastics in place Platinum Daytona (without the diamond hour markers) for $58,000. What is that 20% off??? And you will pay him no tax unless you are In Florida. Maybe a small AD somewhere will do that?? If they are going to stick with no discount or 5% off I would look to the gray market.


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Old 12 September 2018, 11:27 AM   #51
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When I bought my 1st Rolex 10+ yrs ago (when discounts are very common)

Both ADs in Vancouver, BC

Me: I will buy a SS sub date today ... how much discount can you offer ?
Lugaro: None ... people that can afford a Rolex do not ask for discounts.
Me: Thanks you and have a nice day.

Drove to Monte Cristo

Me: I will buy a SS sub date today ... how much discount can you offer ?
MC: I can give you 18% off.
Me: Done ... here is my credit card.

I will never go back to Lugaro again.
She had really bad attitude.
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Old 12 September 2018, 11:28 AM   #52
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Honestly. I would have a really hard time buying a platinum Daytona from an AD.

I love my AD dearly and will buy a WG Sub one day. He knows it won’t be from him. The PM watches take too much of a hit as soon as you walk out the door.

Not sure what msrp is but DavidSW has a new with all plastics in place Platinum Daytona (without the diamond hour markers) for $58,000. What is that 20% off??? And you will pay him no tax unless you are In Florida. Maybe a small AD somewhere will do that?? If they are going to stick with no discount or 5% off I would look to the gray market.


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Old 12 September 2018, 11:30 AM   #53
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Pattyb69, I am learning. I want the platinum Daytona with baguette hour markers.
100% you can ask for a discount on that piece, especially if they have it in the glass. Never, ever mention eBay. They may point and laugh in your face.
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Old 12 September 2018, 11:36 AM   #54
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As I read and learn a question to you Rolex Jedi:

Is it permissible to ask an AD (NYC Wempe, DC Tyson's Corner, Chicago stores) if they will give a discount for cash? There are reduced priced rolexes on eBay, so I can offer the prices I see on eBay as a bargaining chip? Likelihood of success?
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V25V, you are on it! I bought an older SS Daytona from Fred there in Tysons. They seem pretty firm on not offering a discount. They have good pieces. Do you think they will give a 10%. How to approach them?
Intense5, it all depends on what you are buying. They likely will discount on hard to sell pieces such as PM watches or something they've had for a long time. Otherwise you're pretty much out of luck in today's environment. In the spring I was offered 10% off on a Yacht Master.
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Old 12 September 2018, 11:45 AM   #55
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Is this your first Rolex or first watch? Getting a Platinum Daytona right out of the gates is quite wild.
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Old 12 September 2018, 11:55 AM   #56
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Is this your first Rolex or first watch? Getting a Platinum Daytona right out of the gates is quite wild.


Not my first. I have bought and traded several over the years. I love the brand.


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Old 12 September 2018, 12:01 PM   #57
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Another thing he taught me was “the golden rule.” Meaning, the ones with the gold rule. So if they want your money, they better be willing to negotiate. If they don’t want to negotiate, they don’t need your gold.
Reverse this if you’re buying a PM piece! Rolex is the one with the gold. All we've got are these little pieces of paper we hope to trade.
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Old 12 September 2018, 12:06 PM   #58
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Why should AD provide a discount to you if 100 people is waiting for the same model? You already having chance ahead of the 100 people and still seek the advantage from the store?
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Old 12 September 2018, 12:20 PM   #59
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Why should AD provide a discount to you if 100 people is waiting for the same model? You already having chance ahead of the 100 people and still seek the advantage from the store?
That is my reasoning with supply and demand. Assuming 100 (or many) people are trying to get that piece. But if it has been there for 6 months in the glass, maybe the AD has a motivation to move it. If the dead is high, no need to offer a discount. If the demand is low, then maybe so.
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Old 12 September 2018, 12:22 PM   #60
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Thanks everyone. How do AD's get the Rolex you are looking for? When they don't have it at the location, I have been told, I can get it in 7 days if you buy it now. What are they doing?
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