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[sillo]

Originally Posted by dba

I think he got off pretty light. He should have been completely excluded from the results. Ferrari need to get a leash on their new favorite mutt.

I think he got exactly what was deserved. The stewards have the black and orange flag at their disposal which they should've shown when he skipped the pit entry the first time around. I don't see how or why he should be "excluded from the results" or how Ferrari needs to do anything different with him. For his second season in F1 and his first in a top seat I think he's doing pretty damn well.

Originally Posted by bremersm

Hamilton’s response to Toto’s radio shows he is a little b**** and not a team player.

Is anyone in Formula 1 a team player?

[texasmade]

Originally Posted by sillo38

Is anyone in Formula 1 a team player?

Bottas is.

Regarding LeClerc, the crash with Max I can understand. It's the first lap and stuff happens. Not pitting with a clearly damaged wing though really deserves a much harsher in-race penalty on safety grounds. The debris took out Lewis's rear view mirror and got caught in Lando's car causing his brakes to overheat. That basically killed Lando's race.

[sillo]

Originally Posted by texasmade

Bottas is.

If he had the choice he would disobey every "Valtteri, it's James" message he ever received. Him obeying team orders is the main thing keeping him in the most desirable seat in F1.

Originally Posted by texasmade

Not pitting with a clearly damaged wing though really deserves a much harsher in-race penalty on safety grounds.

Exactly why he should've been shown the flag and ordered by the stewards to pit. Them not flexing their muscle is their fault. Drivers can't see their front wing and can only go off of messages from their engineer and directions from the stewards.

[goin camping]

Bottas and Hamilton are team players. Remember when Bottas "Loaned" Hamilton the lead and Hamilton gave it back when he could not pass the race leader?

The only time I can remember Hamilton not following team orders was with Nicco when they were competing for driver championship. Team wanted Hamilton to slow down so Nicco could pass and Hamilton declined.

Sure Hamilton whines aout pit strategy but most do. Some louder than others.

[Zakalwe]

Show me a team player and I’ll show you a driver who isn’t good enough to win a WDC.

Would Max have been any less sulky on the radio? Vettel? Schumacher?

[texasmade]

Charles LeClerc is one of the biggest whiners on the radio.

[Rolex Essex]

Hamilton and Mercedes are in league of their own. Totally unstoppable.
The podium was superb and OTT.

[jatco]

Originally Posted by Rolex Essex

Hamilton and Mercedes are in league of their own. Totally unstoppable.
The podium was superb and OTT.

Pretty much so. A damn good race imo and who would've expected those results at the start of the race. Mexico put on a great show.

[walds11]

Originally Posted by jatco

Pretty much so. A damn good race imo and who would've expected those results at the start of the race. Mexico put on a great show.

Agreed. Now on to Austin!

[goin camping]

Originally Posted by walds11

Agreed. Now on to Austin!

I love that track!

[walds11]

Originally Posted by goin camping

I love that track!

Me too! COTA It’s on my bucket list to go there for an F1 race.

[sillo]

Anybody going to Austin? I'll be there for the race on Sunday. I'm so pumped. I haven't had the chance to see the current cars in person and I've only seen an older gen F1 car on a static display. I'm ready to have my mind blown. I'm sitting in the turn 12 bleachers in the section closest to the turn.

[texasmade]

I'll be there in the main grandstand Saturday and Sunday.

[Rolex Essex]

Originally Posted by jatco

Pretty much so. A damn good race imo and who would've expected those results at the start of the race. Mexico put on a great show.

Tbh I thought Albon might’ve finished in the podium but at least he’s finished in front of Crashtappen.
He’s has earnt more points for RB than Max since he got promoted from TR.

[jatco]

Originally Posted by sillo38

Anybody going to Austin? I'll be there for the race on Sunday. I'm so pumped. I haven't had the chance to see the current cars in person and I've only seen an older gen F1 car on a static display. I'm ready to have my mind blown. I'm sitting in the turn 12 bleachers in the section closest to the turn.

This being your first 'live' GP, you will ne blown away. I know I was, at my first live GP in Monaco years ago...
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I stand corrected. Monaco eas my first International GP. Ive been to a couple at Watkins Glen back in the 70's...

[V25V]

Originally Posted by sillo38

Anybody going to Austin? I'll be there for the race on Sunday. I'm so pumped. I haven't had the chance to see the current cars in person and I've only seen an older gen F1 car on a static display. I'm ready to have my mind blown. I'm sitting in the turn 12 bleachers in the section closest to the turn.

Will be there, leaving Friday!


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[Zakalwe]

This article written by an anonymous aero engineer currently working for a team on the grid may be of interest to some.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/formula1/50222105

[jatco]

Originally Posted by Zakalwe

This article written by an anonymous aero engineer currently working for a team on the grid may be of interest to some.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/formula1/50222105

Interesting to say the least..
Initially I couldn't see the difference, but the sketch shows a 'wing' on the inside of the front tire housing..
Guess we'll see if the theory plays out..

[sillo]

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...K1B4rJwTk.html

[jatco]

Originally Posted by sillo38

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...K1B4rJwTk.html

Holly Hanna.. - That's a lot of 'Upgrades/changes..!
A whole new slant on the scene..

[Andad]

Originally Posted by sillo38

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...K1B4rJwTk.html

I want one......

[jatco]

Originally Posted by directioneng

I want one......

I'd love to be in one..!!

[Razorsedge1]

Originally Posted by Zakalwe

This article written by an anonymous aero engineer currently working for a team on the grid may be of interest to some.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/formula1/50222105

Good read.

[Zakalwe]

Originally Posted by sillo38

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...K1B4rJwTk.html

More on the same theme...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk-JKrs0rrc

It looks promising, especially the return of ground effects which reduces the reliance of the cars on the bodywork to produce downforce.

I have no doubt though that Merc, Ferrari and RB will contrive to drop a giant turd in the regulatory punch-bowl.

[77T]

I watched that YT and a couple of things jumped out at me.

But first, the new 2021 rules did pass their first approval step yesterday and should be published right away.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/14...les-and-vision

The first thing that jumped out at me is the new CAD rule that requires teams to submit full designs to F1 via CAD files before approval. This will lead to a huge security risk and the leading teams may object to pre-publishing their actual designs before autoclaving their aero work.

Next thing is the whole idea of improving the ability of the following car to pass the car ahead. While it has been the basic purpose, I’m not sure those teams who are at the pointy end want that

Ferrari has been a vocal opponent of some aspects of the new rules. Many may not know this, but Ferrari alone has the right to veto any or all of this even after this approval.

This inalienable “right” was supposed to be limited to any plans it deems “not in the best interest of the championship”. However - many believe that is defined as anything not in the best interest of Ferrari winning the manufacturer championship.

Team boss Mattia Binotto said it would be a "shame" to have to exercise that right. But he also said that they would decide what to do after the full specs have been published.


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[V25V]

Like all good engineers, they will find gray areas and exploit them. I do not expect these rule changes to do very much in terms of their goal. However, I have said for a long time to strip these cars of all the barge boards, winglets and make the mains smaller. Give them tunnels again and you should, in theory, see better racing. So glad they seem to be moving in that direction. But even back in the hay days, top teams always will separate themselves from everyone else.

[goin camping]

Since the cars will never go back to mechanical grip only.

These new rules (As every batch of rules has been.) will be bent, finessed, or avoided with all the skill the engineers can dream up.

The first two years of the new rules will be great for the fans as the teams and F1 sort it out.

I wonder how strong the "Ferrari rule" will remain with new ownership. I think at this point Ferrari needs F1 more than F1 needs Ferrari.

[Rolex Essex]

Champion of the world

[jatco]

Originally Posted by Rolex Essex

Champion of the world

Tho I haven't watched the race yet, this was pretty much a Given..
Kudos to Hamilton

[texasmade]

Just got home from Austin. Classic F1 was great. The DFV Cosworth engines are insanely loud. I had to leave the main grandstand where I was sitting to buy ear plugs.




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