Envelope for the AD at the donut shop

[pepsiretail]

I will not name names but I must speak.

I had a little discussion with a grey dealer the other day and you know what he said?

What's wrong with him getting all the hot watches directly from the AD in return for an envelope?

His reasoning? All the clients who get at retail, except for me, come to him anyway, so why not cut out all these middlemen and let the AD and him split their share?

I said please go on the Rolex forum and start a thread with your views but he won't. So I am.

[Rado63]

Oh my Goodness! The AD and the gray are collaborating to make profits! What about the poor worker, I hope the worker gets something out of this madness! Please keep us posted.

[Dyim]

Thank you card always welcome.

Nice to show appreciation.

[Nikrnic]

That's how its done. On the q t

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[sambb]

of course AD and gray are collabs. Crazy, but there has to be some kickbacks.

It works both ways - one can get a nice timepiece (nonrolex) at a significant discount because of gray also (omega is a good example).

[SeikoBake]

Originally Posted by pepsiretail

I will not name names but I must speak.

I had a little discussion with a grey dealer the other day and you know what he said?

What's wrong with him getting all the hot watches directly from the AD in return for an envelope?

His reasoning? All the clients who get at retail, except for me, come to him anyway, so why not cut out all these middlemen and let the AD and him split their share?

I said please go on the Rolex forum and start a thread with your views but he won't. So I am.

I’d be very surprised if the grey dealer wasn’t lying. Any reputable watch AD has worked long and hard to earn and retain the Rolex flag; risking their business for a little extra cash would not be worth the risk.

[pepsiretail]

Originally Posted by Rado63

Oh my Goodness! The AD and the gray are collaborating to make profits! What about the poor worker, I hope the worker gets something out of this madness! Please keep us posted.

Sure, we all love profit. The point is they want our profit, or potential profit, also. Are you ok with the notion that the grey should become the defacto AD?

[pepsiretail]

Originally Posted by SeikoBake

I’d be very surprised if the grey dealer wasn’t lying. Any reputable watch AD has worked long and hard to earn and retain the Rolex flag; risking their business for a little extra cash would not be worth the risk.

Grey dealers always tell the truth, even when they lie.

[djgallo]

Originally Posted by pepsiretail

I will not name names but I must speak.

I had a little discussion with a grey dealer the other day and you know what he said?

What's wrong with him getting all the hot watches directly from the AD in return for an envelope?

His reasoning? All the clients who get at retail, except for me, come to him anyway, so why not cut out all these middlemen and let the AD and him split their share?

I said please go on the Rolex forum and start a thread with your views but he won't. So I am.

Like most of us don’t already know this is going on?

[locutus49]

When someone makes a provocative claim I need to see evidence. Anyone can claim anything.

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by locutus49

When someone makes a provocative claim I need to see evidence. Anyone can claim anything.

Exactly. This is the internet after all.

[Robtayham]

I’m not sure this is news. In other words, if the greys aren’t buying from ADs, then where are they getting all their ‘high demand’ watches? In reading so many TRF threads about TRF members jumping through hoops and still not getting the watches, then who is? Is it the random walk-in customer? I don’t think the random walk-in customer would be more successful than TRF members. So....if TRF members and random walk-in customers aren’t buying the watches from ADs, then who is? It’s the greys. Without a doubt.

[Pauln]

“I’m shocked, shocked to find there’s gambling going on in this establishment.”
“Sir, your winnings.”
“Thank you very much.”

[Rado63]

Originally Posted by pepsiretail

Sure, we all love profit. The point is they want our profit, or potential profit, also. Are you ok with the notion that the grey should become the defacto AD?

When the AD is overstocked with items and the gray dealer sells a watch at discount you didn't complain.

[pepsiretail]

Originally Posted by locutus49

When someone makes a provocative claim I need to see evidence. Anyone can claim anything.

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

Exactly. This is the internet after all.

I'm up for a stake out, donuts are on me

We can catch them in the act, then accept the envelope to keep our silence

[pepsiretail]

Originally Posted by Rado63

When the AD is overstocked with items and the gray dealer sells a watch at discount you didn't complain.

Sure I complained, I would have gladly bought from the AD at the discount grey price and kept the grey's profit

[SLS]

GMD use to sell at a discount to assist AD’s to move their stock. Nobody complained then...just saying.

[SLS]

Originally Posted by Rado63

When the AD is overstocked with items and the gray dealer sells a watch at discount you didn't complain.

I am a slower on the keyboard

[othertbone]

Originally Posted by pepsiretail

I will not name names but I must speak.

I had a little discussion with a grey dealer the other day and you know what he said?

What's wrong with him getting all the hot watches directly from the AD in return for an envelope?

His reasoning? All the clients who get at retail, except for me, come to him anyway, so why not cut out all these middlemen and let the AD and him split their share?

I said please go on the Rolex forum and start a thread with your views but he won't. So I am.

NO WAY!!!!!!!

[mountainjogger]

Originally Posted by Pauln

“I’m shocked, shocked to find there’s gambling going on in this establishment.”
“Sir, your winnings.”
“Thank you very much.”

[tie219]

Originally Posted by locutus49

When someone makes a provocative claim I need to see evidence. Anyone can claim anything.

Hmmm... I heard the same thing from a grey dealer in Hong Kong. But that's a different market and I suppose it was just his word.

[Al1969]

Originally Posted by Rado63

When the AD is overstocked with items and the gray dealer sells a watch at discount you didn't complain.

Are you a TS?

[GeoffS]

Yep, this is old news.

[toolr]

I don't care...

[aczaja10]

Originally Posted by SLS

GMD use to sell at a discount to assist AD’s to move their stock. Nobody complained then...just saying.

This is a good point. Greys can now "cash in" and make some extra money. It's their turn. It just sucks that it's at our expense. Eventually, things will get back to a more normal allocation where we can buy at MSRP or below from ADs.

[002]

Originally Posted by Rado63

When the AD is overstocked with items and the gray dealer sells a watch at discount you didn't complain.

In that scenario, everybody wins.

In the op’s scenario, the customer and enthusiast very much lose.
That is the difference. They are not equivalent syllogisms.

Another comment referred to the grey dealer as the defacto AD. That is what should bother customers and Rolex.

I need a spare link and new crystal for my watch. I saw the AD across the street and thought “no way I’m going in there with all this toxic nonsense going on”. The vibe inside is pretty gross. Sure there is an up tic in Rolex interest lately, but if I’m repelled, then there’s a good chance other are too.

I think Rolex is smart enough to know that being associated with (or as) D-bags won’t be good for business long term. It’ll be a few years, but things will change.

[Ssunnylee24]

AD is guilty till proven innocence.

[bayerische]

And this is news?

[AK797]

Been happening since 2016, after Brexit ADs and greys moved far quicker than Rolex to take advantage of the sudden spike in demand.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by locutus49

When someone makes a provocative claim I need to see evidence. Anyone can claim anything.

Have to agree this forum is getting more like facebook everyday.