Opinions on a 5513 Bart Simpson

[jollerbarn]

Hi,

I'm looking at a 5513 Bart Simpson. Seller normally doesn't handle Rolex, so not much info on the watch other than that it had its movement serviced at ABC last year. To me it looks spot on, possibly reluming of hands though?

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[jollerbarn]

Serial is in the 1.5m range...

[Vincent65]

looks great from here

[CrownMe]

Looks great to me. Even if the hands were re lumed, they match perfectly.

[QueueCumber]

Weird. That looks an awful lot like my watch. Almost EXACTLY like my watch! THAT IS MY WATCH!!!!!

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The bad news is, my watch isn't up for sale....

[Robbyvm]

Beauty

If you decide not to take it pm me the seller ok!

[QueueCumber]

Here's a pic of it in front of my last post....

[QueueCumber]

BTW, I guess since he doesn't actually have the watch, he doesn't know that it is also tropical....

[CrownMe]

Wow that is the same watch. ^^^

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by CrownMe

Wow that is the same watch. ^^^

Indeed!

[CrownMe]

http://www.hqmilton.com/watches/1966...t_simpson_dial

Here's the original ad from Hq.

[CrownMe]

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

Those pics the "seller" is using old, from before I sent it to ABC Watchwerks. This person knows about my piece and its history. Odd that the person would try to sell it as having been at ABC Watchwerks, but use an old photograph from before it was detailed by them.

So this thread saved the Op some money. Sad how many people are out there to scam honest people.

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by CrownMe

So this thread saved the Op some money. Sad how many people are out there to scam honest people.

Hopefully he didn't already do the transaction and comes back here before he does...

[CrownMe]

That had to be strange to open this thread and see your own watch ^^^ hahah

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by CrownMe

That had to be strange to open this thread and see your own watch ^^^ hahah

Yeah, I was like wow, that looks very familiar. Even the dots on the lume! And the notches on insert!!! HEY!!!!

[nsumner]

So.... Who's the "seller"?

[CrownMe]

Good question Nathaniel. Would love to know

[Karbo]

Very difficult to find a Bart for sell... I cant even find one on C24 !!

[QueueCumber]

I sent the OP a PM as well in case he isn't set up to receive notifications from threads...

[jollerbarn]

Wow. This is nuts - and NO I haven't done any transaction yet (thank god!). I'll be back.

Edit: I've reached out to seller, which from different sources seemed to be a good guy.

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by jollerbarn

Wow. This is nuts - and NO I haven't done any transaction yet (thank god!). I'll be back.

Edit: I've reached out to seller, which from different sources seemed to be a good guy.

If it is any consolation, it is a wonderful piece. You would have loved it!

[jdmi32]

Two possible explanations.

1) Seller is a scammer.

2) Mrs. Q is sick and tired of Mr. Q paying more attention to his watches than to her and is getting rid of the competition.

[jollerbarn]

Originally Posted by jdmi32

Two possible explanations.



1) Seller is a scammer.



2) Mrs. Q is sick and tired of Mr. Q paying more attention to his watches than to her and is getting rid of the competition.

Rofl! :-)

I'm betting on #1


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[jollerbarn]

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

If it is any consolation, it is a wonderful piece. You would have loved it!

I'm sure. At least it's in good hands :-)


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[jollerbarn]

How do I best share the scammer's information? I have names, bank information and address information.


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[Vincent65]

Jesus - wtf.

Post it all here Jesper.

[CrownMe]

Post it all here for sure. Just imagine how many he has scammed already. Luckily Jesper posted here first.

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by jdmi32

Two possible explanations.

1) Seller is a scammer.

2) Mrs. Q is sick and tired of Mr. Q paying more attention to his watches than to her and is getting rid of the competition.

[PoderEsBueno]

Nice watch
Crazy stuff

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by jollerbarn

How do I best share the scammer's information? I have names, bank information and address information.


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Definitely post ALL the info you have on the person. This way when people search to see if the person is legit using their bank info and e-mail information, etc., this thread will pop up and they will know to watch out. At best you will help another buyer out, and at worst the scammer will have to make a new account and cover.

A lot of scammers masquerade as trusted sellers using email addresses with one off names, or different server addresses.

Example, people using the same first name but different server: [email protected] instead of [email protected].

Example 2, people use slightly different first names: [email protected] or [email protected] instead of [email protected].

Thus, you may think it is a trusted seller, and you may contact people and get amazing feedback, but you aren't really dealing with the trusted seller, but instead a scammer using a trusted seller's feedback.

1) Always ask the person to send a picture of the watch set to two different times of your choosing.

2) If it is a trusted seller, go to the person's website and contact the person there, or check the e-mail address on multiple forum feedbacks and contact him/her through the main e-mail address he/she uses to confirm (or to warn the real seller about what is happening).

Number one eliminates scammers who don't have the watch immediately. Number two allows you to confirm it is the trusted seller if you aren't sure of the watches provenance. Still, better to get a consensus from a few experts about an expensive piece. Sometimes experts can be wrong based on pictures, or, sadly, more interested in you buying a piece from him/her, or his/her circle, than from another seller.