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15 March 2020, 08:36 PM | #2071 |
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Lots of people complaint that there are no tests.
Okay. Who cares? If you get sick, err on the side of caution and figure you have this. Self quarantine. Rest, stay hydrated, rest, eat fruits and vegetables and rest some more. The vast majority that get this, won’t even know it.
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This is a major concern, young healthy people who encounter elderly parents or friends are exposing them without even knowing it.
Everyone must be thoughtful about interacting in groups and follow best practices to help reduce the rate of transmission.
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You are absolutely correct.
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Perfect.
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With all due respect you have an ideal scenario to be able to do it, try a high rise somewhere with no family. I get your point but many will go through tremendous hardship. Just my point of view. Alternative? Testing, Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Testing is a red herring, if we had the means to test every soul on earth right now then there would be another road block. And on and on it goes
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Sal and Dave and everyone else in the high risk groups, my best wishes.
Unfortunately people are needlessly panicking around here, clearing out the grocery stores and worrying. I'm not trying to diminish the severity, but I think hoarding is anti-social.
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I’m sure there are some mathematicians on here that can express this better than me, and it’s a bit of a tangent, but I find game theory fascinating and this supermarket thing (which is going on in this neck of the woods too) seems to be a variation of the classic Prisoners Dilemma. If everybody co-operates and only takes what they need, then there’s enough for everybody and there’s no problem. If however you suspect that a substantial proportion of people will act selfishly and buy up more than they need, then the actual rational response, if your priority is self preservation, is to also act selfishly and hoard, to the detriment of the people who act selflessly. The solution would seem to be obvious - rationing at the point of purchase.
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Just had an expert on from South Korea who seemed to handle it pretty well. Expressed that their best policy was testing so they could truly isolate the ill. If we tested then those that had it and got better could assist those who hadn’t knowing they would cause no danger. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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The results of S Korea vs say Italy prove otherwise. Reducing there R0 value early on is the absolute best we can do. The only way to do this is to track and inform those who are infected and reduce the contact rate.
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It may be that people go through hardship during the attempted shielding, the alternative is to allow them to carry on as normal, contract the virus and then die, it is a precaution. You keep on about testing, the thinking is quite clear, if one feels the symptoms one self isolates, if one gets worse, one is then tested. Testing has not cured one person.
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Agreed it’s not cured anyone but saved many. It’s not only as good as the time it’s taken if it’s positive. Isolating with symptoms that could be a seasonal cold is not helping. We will have to agree to differ, all the best Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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In the US, testing issue was solved a few days ago. Private company testing went online, and without formal announcement, the requirement for a test went from “showing symptoms and exposed to a know carrier” to “doctor requests a test”. If your doctor believes you need a test, you can get a test.
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As to the utility of testing, I also agree that mass testing of people who do not fit the criteria is a waste of time and resources, and in fact is disruptive to the social distancing that is being advocated. Think about the strain this would put on an already over burdened medical system. I do have one caveat. Since it appears that asymptomatic people may be able to spread Covid-19, people with a known exposure to a confirmed case, or who have spent significant time in outbreak area should also either self isolate or be tested.
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Hope it is true. It would be great news. But even if there is a slight fudge factor, it still appears to be vastly improved.
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2 weeks ago March 1st at 8 pm cst according to the Johns Hopkins website there was 71 reported cases in the USA ....today at 10am there are 2952 reported cases ....big jump
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It isn't as crazy of a number when you consider the total population. Still not good obviously. We shall see what happens between now and next Sunday. This past week was a crazy one.
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Do we have any TRF members in Wuhan? How can a virus be so contagious in a city of 11 million people and they already have empty hospital beds. Are the Chinese officials telling lies by saying they have it contained? I think the only thing deadly about this virus is the News Media telling us we are all going to die.
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My thoughts and prayers are also with all either facing symptoms, at high risk, or just in general to avoid this virus.
I've kept calm and have been sensible about this but the things I've been witnessing have me a bit worried. I'm doing everything to avoid contact and reduce the probability of exposure. A few years ago I was diagnosed with benign neutropenia and ended up seeing a hemotologist for 7 months. The levels have fallen even further since then and after my last blood test the doctor wants me to go for a follow-up test in mid March. I guess to track the rate they're falling and possibly diagnose as chronic, I'm not sure. I'll be holding off for a bit to avoid medical clinics / labs and have to consider working from home. Despite taking precautions and maintaining my composure I would be telling a lie if I was to say this wasn't always on the back of my mind. I just REALLY want things to be back to normal again. |
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Italy eventually took the same steps, but a bit later in the curve. The effects of this delay will be telling. Dr. Fauci just stated that his ideal scenario would be where people at the end of this said we overreacted.
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