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9 February 2016, 07:38 AM | #31 |
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I went through paypal hell....I would never have an account with them again. Somebody got my username and password in Europe and drained my checking/debit account of over 7k. I got it back but it took close to a month....I was out over 7k while they "investigated"
If you must have one have it tied in to a bank card and NOT the debit card. I learned the hard way. Better yet just say no to paypay as others have had many problems with them. I forgot, I had 4 checks bounce because of it......which I never was reimbursed for .....with fees I ended up close to over 200 in the hole plus hours lost on the phone with the fools......never again. I get red-ass just thinking about Paypal |
10 February 2016, 01:44 AM | #32 | |
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Yea but i cant risk getting screwed out of $8000. Better to do dillegence. Wire only for sales on buyers with NO feedback or references.
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10 February 2016, 02:04 AM | #33 |
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Yes. Unless you are very familiar with the buyer (and even then, you'd have to insist on a friends & Family transfer", I would not do it.
Further, PP has withdraw limits. I believe it is $400 or $500 per month, unless you surrender your SSN to their database. I *think* PP send you a financial statement if they disburse more than $6,000 in a tax year. Regarding shipping, I'd only ship USPS Registered. Paper wrapped, paper security tape, address written directly on the package (not a label, which they will not accept anyway). |
23 May 2018, 08:56 AM | #34 |
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Sorry to jump into an old thread. I've always brought watches off grey market, mostly brand new with the 15 - 20% discount (Rolex DJ for example, Longines Worldtimer). Now I am in search for another piece 4-5k budget.
Found a seller on ebay, who have not much feedback (like 2). It was the exact limited edition I was looking for so I engage for more picture, while in the process finds the pics used on Ebay was from some website (google image search). I point that out and request legit pics. He asked for my personal email, I gave it and he send me a few (not much) old shots. Push come to shove, I asked for more pics, and he send me some shot that looks legit, taken today I gather. He also showed me a screen shot of another account on ebay with good feedback. As usual, I asked to meet up (happy to fly to europe) to see the watch and if like, I would have bank transfer to the buy with my laptop in hand (or wad of cash). Instead, he say, no paypal or meeting. I know I get buyer's protection, but is going off ebay to do a paypal deal fromt eh seller quite normal? What are my risk (I will asked for more pics when I am ready to pull the trigger). I also found while it is secure delivery, I am being charged for a 5000 euro piece a 250euros shipping fee. I worked out for the next day secured deliveyr at 7000 euros on UPS within europe is to UK is still only around 160euros. Does this smell bad? Thanks, |
23 May 2018, 09:53 AM | #35 |
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https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=447724 Never accept PayPal. Screw BHJ Beacon hill jewelers
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24 May 2018, 02:26 AM | #37 |
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I don’t mind selling small items via PayPal. But there is just too many ways to scam a seller with a PayPal payment. Bank wire all the way.
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24 May 2018, 06:58 AM | #38 | |
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24 May 2018, 09:05 AM | #39 |
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agreed
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24 May 2018, 11:21 AM | #40 |
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If the buyer pays with a CC he can always reverse the charges and you have to reimburse PayPal for the money (they do rigorously and without notice send the claim to a collection agency, despite me having a nearly 20 year clean transaction record).
I had an issue with an eBay sale, and despite me proving no wrong doing on my part (longer story but I had track number, verified original purchase invoice), with which eBay and PayPal fully agreed, the buyer just claimed it with his CC company and I had to return the funds (and that was 2 month after the fact). |
24 May 2018, 12:18 PM | #41 |
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Dont bank wire anyone. I dont care who you are. Its my money and I want some protection too. I have heard of more betting scammed here over bank wires than over paypal or credit cards.
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25 May 2018, 01:38 AM | #42 | |
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25 May 2018, 02:25 AM | #43 |
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FF payments can be reversed by your bank if push comes to shove. I would only accept such payments from actual friends and family or trusted buyers. Ymmv
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25 May 2018, 02:57 AM | #44 |
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After reading this whole thread, I am never buying or selling anything ever again.
It really does suck that scammers can always scam.
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25 May 2018, 05:41 AM | #45 |
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Thanks for pulling me back to listen to my head. I am feeling the stink in this deal now more and momentarily got caught up in the GS Peacock I wanted as I previously missed out on a brand new one in Turkey on a known jeweler with a good price.
I thank the chap for the slim 3 extra pics I pushed him to share where he showed the back of the piece and limited edition no. xxx/700 piece. When I commented it looks legit without being sarcastic, the chap responded to the email straight away as said, of cause, it is legit, I do this for a living. Upon checking his other ebay account, the chap sold 2 pieces, one was a GS at €7K (msrp 10k) and further picking up the European shipping (not so far away) to the UK as almost €250. Rather spend a bit more now at a local London non-AD jewelry. At least I get to try it on and do the deal straight away with a return policy in terms and a shop to go back to. |
26 May 2018, 09:34 AM | #46 | |
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Best build and spend more time on the forum and buy off reputable members is the option I am thinking now, but have to certainly build my buyer rep also. |
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