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Old 12 February 2016, 04:46 AM   #1
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Wall St. going to hell

Seeing as how the world economies all seem to be going to hell, I'm thinking now is the perfect time to tell my wife I'm investing in a Sub as opposed to stocks. After all, when has a sub ever lost value?
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Old 12 February 2016, 04:52 AM   #2
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Lol. Good advice!! Do you think your wife buy it? Lol.
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Old 12 February 2016, 04:56 AM   #3
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Hard to argue at the moment. The money I put into stocks right now, seems to be worth less the following month.

My hope is that I am buying at fire sale prices and will be rewarded "sometime" in the future.
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Old 12 February 2016, 05:17 AM   #4
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my post argued this a while back. i got out at 205ish spy . sorry if you are stuck.
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Old 12 February 2016, 05:39 AM   #5
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I did the same thing a couple of weeks ago....
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Old 12 February 2016, 06:05 AM   #6
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I spent several thousand on a watch a few weeks ago - I've recovered the funds. If you're not shorting, you're not playing!

I always give my wife the same BS story "You see this watch here, it is inflation proof" - It recently backfired and she made me buy her not one, but two. LOL
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Old 12 February 2016, 06:11 AM   #7
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as China's market seems to be in jeopardy and considering the Chinese have been such strong watch enthusiasts, i wonder if the secondary market may become saturated with supply...
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Old 12 February 2016, 06:20 AM   #8
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I'm doing the same.

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Hard to argue at the moment. The money I put into stocks right now, seems to be worth less the following month.

My hope is that I am buying at fire sale prices and will be rewarded "sometime" in the future.
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Old 12 February 2016, 06:37 AM   #9
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Old 12 February 2016, 08:14 AM   #10
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as China's market seems to be in jeopardy and considering the Chinese have been such strong watch enthusiasts, i wonder if the secondary market may become saturated with supply...
True.
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Old 12 February 2016, 09:24 AM   #11
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Only stock I own is my own company.

Glad I put some money into watches watching my friends laugh at me. Oh well.
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Old 12 February 2016, 09:47 AM   #12
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Only stock I own is my own company.

Glad I put some money into watches watching my friends laugh at me. Oh well.
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Old 12 February 2016, 09:51 AM   #13
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My feeling is that this is all temporary. if you're dollar cost averaging into good companies and have a few years before retirement, this is a great time to be an investor.
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Old 12 February 2016, 09:54 AM   #14
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My feeling is that this is all temporary. if you're dollar cost averaging into good companies and have a few years before retirement, this is a great time to be an investor.
It'll go back up. If your long term invested, now is the time to pour money in.

The Dow is down approx. 3000 in the last year.

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Old 12 February 2016, 10:41 AM   #15
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i prefer to buy stocks when they are cheap, and when they are expensive, sell them for rolexes

as opposed to the other way around
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Old 12 February 2016, 03:11 PM   #16
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Waiting for oil to hit $10/barrel after Iran floods the market then buy energy stocks.
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Old 12 February 2016, 06:18 PM   #17
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as China's market seems to be in jeopardy and considering the Chinese have been such strong watch enthusiasts, i wonder if the secondary market may become saturated with supply...
Things are not great right now, but we should consider the scale. I think Shenzhen and Shanghai exchanges have total value of about $6 trillion, versus about $25 trillion between the NYSE and NASDAQ.

I can't recall exact numbers, but I've been told by many sources that stocks make up a smaller share of private wealth in China than they do in the USA. The stock market dip should be considered in this context.

Will the watches go up for sale? Maybe. I'm sure many would like to sell. But most of the Chinese market only likes to buy new. They are very cautious about buying used. Maybe an enterprising dealer could connect Chinese sellers with Western buyers.

See: http://www.chinainternetwatch.com/43...luxury-brands/
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Old 12 February 2016, 07:19 PM   #18
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Old 12 February 2016, 07:24 PM   #19
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Waiting for oil to hit $10/barrel after Iran floods the market then buy energy stocks.
The UAE is considering production cuts. And Iran has nothing to gain from low oil prices. Their production costs are higher than any of the arab states and low prices hurt them more than their rivals.
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Old 12 February 2016, 08:44 PM   #20
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Old 12 February 2016, 11:05 PM   #21
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The UAE is considering production cuts. And Iran has nothing to gain from low oil prices. Their production costs are higher than any of the arab states and low prices hurt them more than their rivals.
that was a rumor from a UAE minister taken out of context and published when the SPY was about to dip below 181.44. in other words it was a rumor used to manipulate the market from failing below that level. sounds like a conspiracy theory until you consider the large amount of margin debt and leverage used to buy securities that is outstanding.

russia has no interest in low oil prices.

the ITC passed by the USA in december 2015 allowed for exportation of US oil for the first time since the 1970s. OPEC didnt like that.

OPEC has nothing other than a meeting scheduled in June 2016 at this point. buy the rumor sell the news.
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Old 12 February 2016, 11:11 PM   #22
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Things are not great right now, but we should consider the scale. I think Shenzhen and Shanghai exchanges have total value of about $6 trillion, versus about $25 trillion between the NYSE and NASDAQ.

I can't recall exact numbers, but I've been told by many sources that stocks make up a smaller share of private wealth in China than they do in the USA. The stock market dip should be considered in this context.

Will the watches go up for sale? Maybe. I'm sure many would like to sell. But most of the Chinese market only likes to buy new. They are very cautious about buying used. Maybe an enterprising dealer could connect Chinese sellers with Western buyers.

See: http://www.chinainternetwatch.com/43...luxury-brands/
Interesting cultural distinction
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Old 12 February 2016, 11:27 PM   #23
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Interesting cultural distinction
so whens the meetup in china :)
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Old 12 February 2016, 11:52 PM   #24
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Buying hard assets with devalued currency is an interesting strategy
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Old 12 February 2016, 11:53 PM   #25
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The problem isn't whether a Rolex is investment grade. The issue is when it comes time to realize your gains will you be willing to sell off your investment? In my case no so I will lose everything, but have nice watches.
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