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1 August 2008, 02:55 AM | #31 |
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Every time I see a photo like that, it just reminds me of how interesting mechanical watches are. Too bad that's lost on a lot of Timex buying people.
They are quite the cool devices - I wish I could disassemble and reassemble mine just for fun!
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I am with you Steve!, there seems to be a significant level of research and investment on the parachrom bleu hairspring that should reflect:
1) Better acuracy on the long run as it will be less affected by common issue like shock, magnetic fields and temperature changes. 2) No dependence from Nivarox better vertical integration as a manufacture.
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As always great info, now was it all hype?
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Rust only occurs when there is FeO2 present, which is Iron Oxide. Otherwise, any other reaction with oxygen which causes a change is simply oxidisation. Rust, becaue of FeO2, is generally reddish brown in colour and also comes with a weakening of the alloy involved.
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Of course, you are right, thus the "" on rust. Just meant to share the fact it wasn't "painted" or "plated" but that the blue color was based on a chemical reaction to oxygen already.
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The parachrome spring will I think prolong the life of every rolex, so its not over hype. This is a great improvement for the hairspring.
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Agreed. I see nothing to indicate it's not an improvement. In fact, anything Rolex can do in-house can be considered an improvement because they have complete control over manufacture. Until proven wrong I'll put my faith in claims made by Rolex engineers.
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Very interesting read. Thanks.
Does anyone know if you can put this spring on a 1570 movement? |
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Guys read the post on Magnetism and then tell me that the Parachrome Hairspring is not a significant advantage over hairsprings. Especially if you own a Gold or Platinum watch.
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First I would have to ask why the Cal 1570 is one of Rolex finest movements and yours must be a few decades old.And must assume still running and keeping good time.The Parachrome hairspring will not make it any better than the one thats been running for a few decades in your watch.And hairsprings are normally matched to the other escapement parts so would doubt if it would fit.
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Plain and simple.
The parachrome has very little to no advantage over nivarox....except for Rolex The important difference is, the Swatch Group does not own it. Almost all of Rolex's in house creations are efforts to remain independant from Swatch. Nivarox-Parachrome Moebius-Rolex Patent Oils ETA Rolex even joined a consortium of watch manufacturers and bought out Bergeon SA, one of the leading horological tool suppliers, just so Swatch couldnt buy them. Swatch scare Rolex. And quite rightly. They are they single greatest threat to the Rolex brand. |
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My GMYc runs at less than a second a day. Can I thank the Parachrome hairspring or am I just lucky?
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I would say 'just lucky'. My Parachrome DSSD is not as accurate as two non-Parachrome Subs I use to have...so in the big scheme of things I don't really think it matters from an accuracy standpoint. In the end, they are ALL well within tolerances...so really I have nothing to complain about.
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I think that the hype has got to the point that people are confusing Parachrom, Nivarox, and other hairsprings..
Parachrom has a lot of advantages over a "standard" hairspring.... However, Rolex has never used a "standard" hairspring for many, many decades. They have used the high quality Nivarox, which are similar in characteristics as their new Parachrom.. Here is an excerpt about Nivarox: The Nivarox alloy is used mainly in the watch industry, but also in other micro-machine industries and in certain medical equipment and surgical instruments. There are several variations of the Nivarox alloy depending upon the intended application. These alloys are stainless steel alloys with high concentrations of Cobalt (42-48%), Nickel (15-25%) and Chromium (16-22%). There are also small amounts of titanium and beryllium. Hairsprings made of this alloy are wear-resistant; they are practically non-magnetic, non-rusting and possess a low coefficient of thermal expansion. Nivarox 1 through 5 is a series of grades of hairsprings with number 1 being the best quality. The most commonly encountered Nivarox hairsprings are 1 through 3. The alloy is unaffected by heat and ordinary magnetic fields. There is however, also the Anachron hairspring which is said to be of even higher quality than the Nivarox No. 1.
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an intimidating level of reliability and technical excellence.
Best line I think I have read on these Forums! Period. Thanks Larry. That is precisely why I wear one. I don't collect them and then ask which one I should take to Hawaii, a wedding or if I can swim with it. They're not jewellery nor a fashion accessory. They are an exquisitely engineered marvel. They are incredibly beautiful, accurate and tough all at the same instant. Designed to be worn. And if an outfit like Rolex wants to hype-up the fact that they have spent a franc or two becoming a little better as well as a little more independant then I say so be it and take it with a grain of salt.
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Well, thanks, Lionel I appreciate it.
Sometimes some of the stuff people come up with around here really makes me shake my head (or hang it in disgust). Have a nice weekend.
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Again. Very well stated Sheldon, I could not agree more.
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Thanks, Patrick.
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It's good to see some traces of brilliance in your otherwise crazy demeanour!!
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Thanks, JJ.
Very minor traces at best!
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