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BigBlue1 · 19 June 2019, 10:04 AM

What are your thoughts? Lots of scratches on the Crystal. I believe the hands have been relumed because they glow. The crown was changed, but still is here.Judging by the serial number the watch was produced in 1969. I believe the watch was serviced by Rolex in 2001.
It has a 93150 Bracelet 501B End links. So must have been swapped out at some point. The dial seems to be original. The insert was swapped as well, but have the original but missing the pearl.

Thank you in Advance.
John

Kingface66 · 19 June 2019, 10:36 AM

Hey, John. Just to be sure, neither one of those inserts appears to be correct for a 1969 Sub.

BigBlue1 · 19 June 2019, 10:45 AM

Oh. Ok. Thank you Andy.
seller wants 10,000
What is your thoughts on the watch and or dial?

tvad · 19 June 2019, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingface66

...neither one of those inserts appears to be correct for a 1969 Sub.

What watch is correct for this insert (model/date range)?

BigBlue1 · 19 June 2019, 11:38 AM

close up of the dial and hands

Juhuatai · 19 June 2019, 12:04 PM

I agree that the hands are probably relumed. Both of those inserts are service, you want a fat font Mk2 i believe. The dial looks nice, I'd say the watch is probably undervalued at 10k.

BigBlue1 · 19 June 2019, 07:40 PM

Anyone. Thoughts maybe on value and or dial.

Alex Ks · 19 June 2019, 08:21 PM

I'd say the watch is fairly valued. Dial is nice. You'll need new hands, crystal, service and a light bracelet polish. If I were you I'd just go for service hands and have them painted to match the patina color.
Might want to give the case a light polish for sharper edges.

Lgear080 · 19 June 2019, 09:26 PM

Case doesn’t sing, but I bet that dial would :)
Price seems in line w condition. $10k is the new $5k lol. Agree that w a service, dome, insert and hand re-lume this could look special.

BigBlue1 · 20 June 2019, 01:06 AM

Really want to leave it the way it is kind of. Just looking for a valuation and some opinions if it’s worth it.

Thanks.

Lgear080 · 20 June 2019, 02:47 AM

Don’t think it’s a loser at that price. Obviously can be worn and enjoyed as is.

HarryLime · 20 June 2019, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBlue1

Really want to leave it the way it is kind of.

A proper insert would really make this watch though.

BigBlue1 · 20 June 2019, 06:51 AM

I agree with an insert in the near future.

BigBlue1 · 20 June 2019, 09:01 AM

Ill have LAWW check it out.

BigBlue1 · 21 June 2019, 09:51 AM

I was advised by LAWW to keep looking unless I want a project watch and want to source all the pieces as the hands have been relumed which I was sure of. The only thing worth anything is the case, movement and bracelet other than that nada. ;(

Juhuatai · 21 June 2019, 11:11 AM

Huh, the dial is a relume?

05carbondrz · 21 June 2019, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Juhuatai

Huh, the dial is a relume?

^This^

jensonslee · 21 June 2019, 12:29 PM

Has anyone seen the prices on Chrono24? This watch would surely be listed at least 15k.

Juhuatai · 21 June 2019, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jensonslee

Has anyone seen the prices on Chrono24? This watch would surely be listed at least 15k.

Chrono24 prices are inflated...

TimeLord2 · 21 June 2019, 02:00 PM

Yea, I will be the third on that question. Is the dial relumed? I thought it had a very nice patina and looked quite nice John. What did LAWW say about the dial?

1675-David · 21 June 2019, 06:31 PM

X4 what's wrong with the dial?

BigBlue1 · 21 June 2019, 06:53 PM

Sorry for the delayed response, let me get back to Edvi and find out exactly what was wrong. I was kind of rushed when I spoke with him but was advised it wasn’t worth 10,000 in their opinion. I will be calling today and will update a little later.

BigBlue1 · 22 June 2019, 02:45 AM

Just spoke with Edvi and he said the dial was Re-Lumed but not with Tritium with no glow. The plots are non reactive to a UV light. They are not sure what was used.

Kingface66 · 22 June 2019, 03:28 AM

I'm slightly confused. I thought when you said that the seller wants $10,000 for it meant that you were still considering buying it or not. But, if you were able to send it to LAWW, then I'm guessing you did buy it??

BigBlue1 · 22 June 2019, 03:44 AM

Me and seller had an agreement contingent upon LAWW assessment. Looks like I’m not buying it.

Juhuatai · 22 June 2019, 03:55 AM

Interesting. Certainly possible but whoever did the relume on the dial is very good. Totally different job from the hands.

19 June 2019, 10:04 AM	#1
BigBlue1 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Real Name: Webmaster Location: Space Watch: it pal ! Posts: 2,955	Submariner 5513 Meters First What are your thoughts? Lots of scratches on the Crystal. I believe the hands have been relumed because they glow. The crown was changed, but still is here.Judging by the serial number the watch was produced in 1969. I believe the watch was serviced by Rolex in 2001. It has a 93150 Bracelet 501B End links. So must have been swapped out at some point. The dial seems to be original. The insert was swapped as well, but have the original but missing the pearl. Thank you in Advance. John __________________ " Even I don't wake up looking like Cindy Crawford". Cindy Crawford Hypochondria is the only disease I haven't got RIP Mikey

19 June 2019, 10:45 AM	#3
BigBlue1 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Real Name: Webmaster Location: Space Watch: it pal ! Posts: 2,955	Oh. Ok. Thank you Andy. seller wants 10,000 What is your thoughts on the watch and or dial? __________________ " Even I don't wake up looking like Cindy Crawford". Cindy Crawford Hypochondria is the only disease I haven't got RIP Mikey

19 June 2019, 11:38 AM	#5
BigBlue1 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Real Name: Webmaster Location: Space Watch: it pal ! Posts: 2,955	close up of the dial and hands __________________ " Even I don't wake up looking like Cindy Crawford". Cindy Crawford Hypochondria is the only disease I haven't got RIP Mikey

19 June 2019, 07:40 PM	#7
BigBlue1 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Real Name: Webmaster Location: Space Watch: it pal ! Posts: 2,955	Anyone. Thoughts maybe on value and or dial. __________________ " Even I don't wake up looking like Cindy Crawford". Cindy Crawford Hypochondria is the only disease I haven't got RIP Mikey

20 June 2019, 01:06 AM	#10
BigBlue1 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Real Name: Webmaster Location: Space Watch: it pal ! Posts: 2,955	Really want to leave it the way it is kind of. Just looking for a valuation and some opinions if it’s worth it. Thanks. __________________ " Even I don't wake up looking like Cindy Crawford". Cindy Crawford Hypochondria is the only disease I haven't got RIP Mikey

19 June 2019, 10:36 AM	#2
Kingface66 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: The Empire State Watch: 1966 Rolex 5513 Posts: 3,414	Hey, John. Just to be sure, neither one of those inserts appears to be correct for a 1969 Sub.

19 June 2019, 12:04 PM	#6
Juhuatai 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Chicago Watch: 5508 & 9401 Posts: 639	I agree that the hands are probably relumed. Both of those inserts are service, you want a fat font Mk2 i believe. The dial looks nice, I'd say the watch is probably undervalued at 10k.

19 June 2019, 08:21 PM	#8
Alex Ks "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 289	I'd say the watch is fairly valued. Dial is nice. You'll need new hands, crystal, service and a light bracelet polish. If I were you I'd just go for service hands and have them painted to match the patina color. Might want to give the case a light polish for sharper edges.

19 June 2019, 09:26 PM	#9
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	Case doesn’t sing, but I bet that dial would :) Price seems in line w condition. $10k is the new $5k lol. Agree that w a service, dome, insert and hand re-lume this could look special.

20 June 2019, 02:47 AM	#11
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	Don’t think it’s a loser at that price. Obviously can be worn and enjoyed as is.

20 June 2019, 06:51 AM	#13
BigBlue1 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Real Name: Webmaster Location: Space Watch: it pal ! Posts: 2,955	I agree with an insert in the near future. __________________ " Even I don't wake up looking like Cindy Crawford". Cindy Crawford Hypochondria is the only disease I haven't got RIP Mikey

20 June 2019, 09:01 AM	#14
BigBlue1 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Real Name: Webmaster Location: Space Watch: it pal ! Posts: 2,955	Ill have LAWW check it out. __________________ " Even I don't wake up looking like Cindy Crawford". Cindy Crawford Hypochondria is the only disease I haven't got RIP Mikey

21 June 2019, 09:51 AM	#15
BigBlue1 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Real Name: Webmaster Location: Space Watch: it pal ! Posts: 2,955	I was advised by LAWW to keep looking unless I want a project watch and want to source all the pieces as the hands have been relumed which I was sure of. The only thing worth anything is the case, movement and bracelet other than that nada. ;( __________________ " Even I don't wake up looking like Cindy Crawford". Cindy Crawford Hypochondria is the only disease I haven't got RIP Mikey

21 June 2019, 11:11 AM	#16
Juhuatai 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Chicago Watch: 5508 & 9401 Posts: 639	Huh, the dial is a relume?

21 June 2019, 12:29 PM	#18
jensonslee "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: USA Posts: 84	Has anyone seen the prices on Chrono24? This watch would surely be listed at least 15k.

21 June 2019, 02:00 PM	#20
TimeLord2 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Valencia, CA Watch: GMT Master 1675/3 Posts: 2,045	Yea, I will be the third on that question. Is the dial relumed? I thought it had a very nice patina and looked quite nice John. What did LAWW say about the dial?

21 June 2019, 06:31 PM	#21
1675-David "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 6,010	X4 what's wrong with the dial?

21 June 2019, 06:53 PM	#22
BigBlue1 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Real Name: Webmaster Location: Space Watch: it pal ! Posts: 2,955	Sorry for the delayed response, let me get back to Edvi and find out exactly what was wrong. I was kind of rushed when I spoke with him but was advised it wasn’t worth 10,000 in their opinion. I will be calling today and will update a little later. __________________ " Even I don't wake up looking like Cindy Crawford". Cindy Crawford Hypochondria is the only disease I haven't got RIP Mikey

22 June 2019, 02:45 AM	#23
BigBlue1 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Real Name: Webmaster Location: Space Watch: it pal ! Posts: 2,955	Just spoke with Edvi and he said the dial was Re-Lumed but not with Tritium with no glow. The plots are non reactive to a UV light. They are not sure what was used. __________________ " Even I don't wake up looking like Cindy Crawford". Cindy Crawford Hypochondria is the only disease I haven't got RIP Mikey

22 June 2019, 03:28 AM	#24
Kingface66 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: The Empire State Watch: 1966 Rolex 5513 Posts: 3,414	I'm slightly confused. I thought when you said that the seller wants $10,000 for it meant that you were still considering buying it or not. But, if you were able to send it to LAWW, then I'm guessing you did buy it??

22 June 2019, 03:44 AM	#25
BigBlue1 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Real Name: Webmaster Location: Space Watch: it pal ! Posts: 2,955	Me and seller had an agreement contingent upon LAWW assessment. Looks like I’m not buying it. __________________ " Even I don't wake up looking like Cindy Crawford". Cindy Crawford Hypochondria is the only disease I haven't got RIP Mikey

22 June 2019, 03:55 AM	#26
Juhuatai 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Chicago Watch: 5508 & 9401 Posts: 639	Interesting. Certainly possible but whoever did the relume on the dial is very good. Totally different job from the hands.

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