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Old 9 January 2019, 01:51 AM   #1
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Omega news.... cal 321 back in production

Just posted on Omega’s Instagram!



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Old 9 January 2019, 02:03 AM   #2
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Wow. That is all.
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Old 9 January 2019, 02:15 AM   #3
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I wonder if they are going to use it in the Apollo 11 50th anniversary commemorative? That would make sense..........
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Old 9 January 2019, 02:21 AM   #4
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This is big and also means I’m putting my imminent submariner purchase on hold
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Old 9 January 2019, 02:24 AM   #5
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Old 9 January 2019, 02:33 AM   #6
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Old 9 January 2019, 02:41 AM   #7
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Old 9 January 2019, 02:41 AM   #8
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Yeah was just reading that..would be epic indeed. But....reading the about process with one watch maker working on the movement, head, bracelet, etc...I bet it is released as some kind of limited edition and pricier than your “standard” speedy. Thoughts?


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Old 9 January 2019, 02:46 AM   #9
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Truly exciting!!!!!!!!!!

D111s......Thanks for the heads up!
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Old 9 January 2019, 02:46 AM   #10
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Alright, I was looking to unload my Daytona and now I know what I will be trading for.
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Old 9 January 2019, 02:48 AM   #11
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Omega making exact copies of their popular old stuff? I'm shocked I tell you! SHOCKED!

I hope this goes in the 52nd Anniversary of Apollo 4 version, or maybe the 47th Anniversary of Apollo 9 version. Can't wait for the 68th Anniversary of Apollo 10!
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Old 9 January 2019, 02:55 AM   #12
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Based on their press release I'll bet we've got close to a $15,000 speedy in the works...
"The new movements will now go into production at OMEGA’s HQ site in Bienne. Uniquely, all aspects of creation will be undertaken within a dedicated Calibre 321 workshop. For each movement, the assembly, as well as the watch head and bracelet assembly will be performed by the same watchmaker."

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/om...aster-movement
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Old 9 January 2019, 03:27 AM   #13
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Omega making exact copies of their popular old stuff? I'm shocked I tell you! SHOCKED!

I hope this goes in the 52nd Anniversary of Apollo 4 version, or maybe the 47th Anniversary of Apollo 9 version. Can't wait for the 68th Anniversary of Apollo 10!


But, to be fair, 2019 is the 50th anniversary of the first moon landing, so, how could Omega not do something?
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Old 9 January 2019, 03:31 AM   #14
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Omega making exact copies of their popular old stuff? I'm shocked I tell you! SHOCKED!

I hope this goes in the 52nd Anniversary of Apollo 4 version, or maybe the 47th Anniversary of Apollo 9 version. Can't wait for the 68th Anniversary of Apollo 10!
still cool news
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Old 9 January 2019, 03:55 AM   #15
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This was mentioned in the article on Fratello watches

This movement will not be used in a limited edition watch, but there will be a limitation in production for the reasons stated above. Omega reveiled that there will be something in gold, for sure. Also, this movement will not be used in any of the upcoming Apollo 11 Limited Edition models in 2019.

https://www.fratellowatches.com/omeg...50f4-123669485






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Old 9 January 2019, 04:04 AM   #16
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What's the advantage of having this movement compared to the ones used now (besides that this movement was the movement found in the speedmaster that went to the moon)?
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Old 9 January 2019, 05:32 AM   #17
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Limited blahblahblah....1969(or 2019) copies, $10k msrp, all sold out, $25k secondary market.
Nothing exciting really. Great idea, will be horrible execution.
One watch watchmaker assembles every part from scratch. That means time, limited numbers and high price. sounds really cool right..DOA.....
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Old 9 January 2019, 06:23 AM   #18
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I hope it's not going to be too limited and pricey, I want one!!!
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Old 9 January 2019, 06:24 AM   #19
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Got it. Speedmaster Professional with cal 321 will be the Omega version of 116500. Will be made of unobtainium as well. Reasonably priced, exclusive (one-man made) and will have double market price and waiting time of 10 years to be bought at MRSP.
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Old 9 January 2019, 06:30 AM   #20
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Alright, I was looking to unload my Daytona and now I know what I will be trading for.
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What's the advantage of having this movement compared to the ones used now (besides that this movement was the movement found in the speedmaster that went to the moon)?
The Omega Calibre 321 (also known as Lemania Calibre 2310) is widely considered one of the greatest watch movements of all time, even independent of its role on the wrists of Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin. It wasn't only used in Speedmasters, but in legendary watches from other makers, such as Patek Philippe's 3970.


This is an inspired choice, and for the real lovers of watchmaking. Like most people I dislike the gimmicky special editions Omega releases, but this is the polar opposite. It's completely under the hood and no ignorant casual will get the appeal. The one man, one watch thing is smart as well; as far as I know, the only maker who does that in the Omega/Rolex category of watches is Grand Seiko.

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Limited blahblahblah....1969(or 2019) copies, $10k msrp, all sold out, $25k secondary market.
Nothing exciting really. Great idea, will be horrible execution.
One watch watchmaker assembles every part from scratch. That means time, limited numbers and high price. sounds really cool right..DOA.....
I guess this post is case in point for what I was saying.



Another great thing is that this means the part supply for vintage 321 watches is going to be a lot bettter.
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Old 9 January 2019, 06:56 AM   #21
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If it is such a great movement, why did they stop using it? And why are so many people getting excited that omega is resuming making a 40 year old movement rather than introducing a new innovative movement? I’m not a diehard speedie fan, so I just don’t get it. Besides nostalgia, what am I missing ?


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Old 9 January 2019, 07:01 AM   #22
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If it is such a great movement, why did they stop using it? And why are so many people getting excited that omega is resuming making a 40 year old movement rather than introducing a new innovative movement? I’m not a diehard speedie fan, so I just don’t get it. Besides nostalgia, what am I missing ?
They're doing both.

As for movements, I think they're something you're either into or not into.
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Old 9 January 2019, 07:04 AM   #23
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Limited blahblahblah....1969(or 2019) copies, $10k msrp, all sold out, $25k secondary market.
Basically how I feel about all new Speedmaster now.

Its great that they are making 321 movement again. But at the same time, they are not investing in making something new and exciting. They are just remaking old stuff and milk the enthusiast / flip-for-profit groups.

It would only be shocking if Omega remake the 321 but NOT put it in a Speedmaster.
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I’m actually excited about this one...
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Old 9 January 2019, 07:18 AM   #25
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If it is such a great movement, why did they stop using it? And why are so many people getting excited that omega is resuming making a 40 year old movement rather than introducing a new innovative movement? I’m not a diehard speedie fan, so I just don’t get it. Besides nostalgia, what am I missing ?


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Time and money was the reason. The 861 is easier to manufacture and cheaper as well.


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Basically how I feel about all new Speedmaster now.



Its great that they are making 321 movement again. But at the same time, they are not investing in making something new and exciting. They are just remaking old stuff and milk the enthusiast / flip-for-profit groups.



It would only be shocking if Omega remake the 321 but NOT put it in a Speedmaster.


Well unlike some manufacturers Omega is listening to the Fans. And make no mistake re-creating piece by piece a movement that has been out of production for decades is indeed quite an accomplishment.


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Old 9 January 2019, 07:27 AM   #27
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The idea of a Speedmaster Pro with hesalite and a 321 movement is pretty exciting. The historical significance would be unparalleled. I was expecting something great for the 50th and this seems to be living up to expectations.


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Old 9 January 2019, 07:54 AM   #28
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Great news, no matter what.

Now, old 321 movements can actually be serviced by Omega. That’s significant.
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Basically how I feel about all new Speedmaster now.

Its great that they are making 321 movement again. But at the same time, they are not investing in making something new and exciting. They are just remaking old stuff and milk the enthusiast / flip-for-profit groups.

It would only be shocking if Omega remake the 321 but NOT put it in a Speedmaster.
Second time I'm seeing this in the thread. Omega released the Calibre 9300 chronograph movement only a few years ago, and it has recently refined it further as the 9900.

I don't see what the problem is with a company doing both.
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Omega making exact copies of their popular old stuff? I'm shocked I tell you! SHOCKED!

I hope this goes in the 52nd Anniversary of Apollo 4 version, or maybe the 47th Anniversary of Apollo 9 version. Can't wait for the 68th Anniversary of Apollo 10!
This is different. Maybe it doesn't mean much to you, but it may mean a whole lot to some.
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