Tried on my Holy Grail, what’s yours?

[dkg1616]

So I am in Philly for a meeting and was able to sneak away and walk down Walnut street before dinner. First, I swung by Tiffianys to check out the engagement ring I am building my soon to be fiancé’s off of. Good news is it’s absolutely perfect.

Okay now to the good stuff. I was able to swing by the local AD, Govberg, and started chatting with the sales manager. He asked what I was looking for and I told him blue skydweller / white Daytona. He started giving me the supply speech and I jokingly interrupted to let him know I knew the gig.

He then asks “what are your thoughts on the white gold, blue face Daytona; you get the best of both worlds.” I immediately said that is my holy grail watch (actually exact words haha). He comes from the back with the piece and let me try it on, gosh was is beautiful! I was actually so excited I didn’t even think about taking a pic for all of you!

He then does his sales speach and let’s me know that “just for you, I’ll let this go for 34k out the door”. At this time I can fathom spending that on a daily watch, but lord knows I want to! Who knows! By the time I can actually get the white Daytona / blue skydweller I may just bite the bullet on the blue Daytona!

Would love to see any pics of those who own one!

[meyers]

So the watch you actually want is... which one again?

[Shaney]

34K.. I'd have cried!

For me my holy grail is the hulk, it really is the only watch I have my eye on at the moment and would genuinely be happy if it was the only luxury piece I ever got to own.

My fiancé's director is a huge watch guy and naturally with me rabbiting on about saving up it was brought up to him, he said he could potentially organise something with his AD south of the border which would be amazing, I'd just need a good chunk of the % to secure it.. so that's my plan for now.

Sorry for the ramble mate, really glad you got to wear your holy grail!

[Gaijin]

I'd fancy a White Gold Olive Dial Day Date.

[mobster600]

Preowned should be around 27-28k, nobody should be paying 34k for that

[watchwatcher]

It's a great watch, for sure. This is strictly my opinion and I don't want to ruffle any feathers, but I would rather have this one than the blue Sky.

Seems the prices have jumped up on the PM Daytona's...a couple of months ago you could have got that one BNIB from a grey for 30k, now it looks like it's closer to 32. So, I guess 34 isn't all that outlandish...relatively speaking of course.

[SkyJuice]

Originally Posted by meyers

so the watch you actually want is... Which one again?

+1

[m j b]

First, congrats on the upcoming nuptials!

Second, I too love that blue Daytona. I think I've seen them (last year) going for as little as low twenties, used, but I think the market is a bit stronger now. No way would I buy one new. Actually, I've got a WG Daytona now (white face), of which I'm experiencing some buyer's remorse as it was quite expensive and I'm thinking of all of the other things that I could spend my money on. Still, it is a Daytona and it's gorgeous, even if it's not blue.

[dkg1616]

Originally Posted by meyers

So the watch you actually want is... which one again?

The blue face Daytona, just out of the financial question at that price range!

[emtee]

Tried on the WG Sub the other day. Not sure if I would call it my grail but damn what a beautiful watch!

[dafuture]

I actually tried that exact Daytona on in NYC a week or two ago. Insanely beautiful watch, I really loved it.

[rw2008]

Originally Posted by dkg1616

He then asks “what are your thoughts on the white gold, blue face Daytona; you get the best of both worlds.”

He then does his sales speach and let’s me know that “just for you, I’ll let this go for 34k out the door”.

Cringe

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by rw2008

Cringe

any AD that calls a dial a face i would cringe too. Its like nails on a chalkboard to me. Probably worse than an AD using watch nicknames.

[dkg1616]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

any AD that calls a dial a face i would cringe too. Its like nails on a chalkboard to me. Probably worse than an AD using watch nicknames.

To be honest, he did not seem to know the rolex brand very well.

He continued to try and sell me on their robust "used" watch collection; where the blue SkyD was $24K...check their website

I wouldn't be surprised if Rolex decided to check these guys out and their practices

[Hodog16]

If my math is right that's about 15% off before tax. I wouldn't buy a PM watch from an AD unless it was at least 20% off and no tax.

I currently have my eye on either a rose gold GMT or a rose gold DD40 with olive dial pending what Basel holds.

For me, the good news is getting that discount isn't my problem, but the bad news is my wife has put a moratorium on watches currently.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by dkg1616

To be honest, he did not seem to know the rolex brand very well.

He continued to try and sell me on their robust "used" watch collection; where the blue SkyD was $24K...check their website

I wouldn't be surprised if Rolex decided to check these guys out and their practices

i dont like AD's having a robust modern preowned business because i think the optics are terrible.... however its the way these AD's are able to grow and take out all the smaller AD's. Its only going to get worse

My AD has zero used watches in the store... none. I think they have trouble competing with the giant chains too. They rarely discount anything which is good for the brands they are selling and it should be rewarded. AD's selling used and making additional profit on that can then also discount new watches more easily too because they have multiple revenue streams. Discounting is always bad for the brand and people gravitate to the highest discounting AD's and most of them also sell preowned also.

Rolex seems to prefer high volume dealers and you can't be high volume when selling everything at retail so they dont seem to care.

[dkg1616]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

i dont like AD's having a robust modern preowned business because i think the optics are terrible.... however its the way these AD's are able to grow and take out all the smaller AD's. Its only going to get worse

My AD has zero used watches in the store... none. I think they have trouble competing with the giant chains too. They rarely discount anything which is good for the brands they are selling and it should be rewarded. AD's selling used and making additional profit on that can then also discount new watches more easily too because they have multiple revenue streams. Discounting is always bad for the brand and people gravitate to the highest discounting AD's and most of them also sell preowned also.

Rolex seems to prefer high volume dealers and you can't be high volume when selling everything at retail so they dont seem to care.

Tyler - i couldn't agree more! Optically it looks like they do "trades" with other large ADs and just sell at the grey market prices. They "claim" people just come to them and trade them in, yet most of them are new or like-new.

I bet the reason ADs claim they only get 1-2 Blue SkyD per year is because they do sketchy backdoor trades on the other 1-2...

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by dkg1616

Tyler - i couldn't agree more! Optically it looks like they do "trades" with other large ADs and just sell at the grey market prices. They "claim" people just come to them and trade them in, yet most of them are new or like-new.

I bet the reason ADs claim they only get 1-2 Blue SkyD per year is because they do sketchy backdoor trades on the other 1-2...

my AD might do trades no idea, but if they do they go to a broker wholesale who then resells them. they have nothing to do with retailing used watches in the store. Im not against trade ins, i am against a dealer being heavily into the pre owned business as i think you should be primarily an AD if you are an AD.

Too many used watches and it looks like a used car lot and that's not very "luxury" is it? Luxury is what they are selling and used is used regardless of the price and if its more or less than retail

[t65tampa]

I like the WG Daytona with the blue dial. I've tried one on at a local AD. I have a yellow gold 116508 that I love, but if I were going to add a white gold sport model to my collection, it would be that 116509 with the blue dial.

[SearChart]

The one this belongs to...

[037]

Originally Posted by SearChart

The one this belongs to...

Ha... that's mine as well!

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by 037

Ha... that's mine as well!

You have good taste

[HogwldFLTR]

We all have our grails and some of us have our crosses to bear after getting them!!! Good luck and condolences when you finally get yours!!!

[Zuger]

That AD carries a pretty good selection of preowned but prices are on the high side. If you shop around mom and pop ADs, you can find a brand new piece for less than their price of a preowned. Another way to support those rural ADs who are having a tough time keeping their AD status.

[hambone1983]

govbergs is famous for terrible prices on 2nd hand watches. Reputation confirmed.

[Twinkie]

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

We all have our grails and some of us have our crosses to bear after getting them!!! Good luck and condolences when you finally get yours!!!

The truest statement

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[TswaneNguni]

Not my pic

IWC Portoguese Grande Complication

[DramaTurtle]

I'd have to say that my new grail would be a minty 1675 GMT, Speedy 2998-2.

Modern grail would be a Lange Datograph.

[bp1000]

PP 5270

Never tried one sadly

[Ungucpho]

Patek Pilots watch