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Old 28 November 2022, 03:53 AM   #31
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I will respectfully and humbly agree that Rolex is not the best at everything and is not the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Most watches are about symbolism and whether that is to others or to self, up to you.

It is what it is, time to explore other brands.
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Old 28 November 2022, 03:54 AM   #32
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This is a gift design feature from Rolex to owners with buyers remorse but unfortunately to the detriment of all insurance companies.
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Old 28 November 2022, 08:30 AM   #33
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Never had any problem with the fliplock clasp. Nor have I ever seen a thread about it anywhere.
Oysterlock clasp, Fliplock extension.

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Old 28 November 2022, 11:14 AM   #34
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I would think that the Daytona clasp can be tightened by a little pinching? {flamesuit}
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Old 28 November 2022, 11:39 AM   #35
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Would one be able to add the flip open divers extension from the older sea dweller to a 114060 sub? I find on my 8/7mm semi dry there is absolutely no way it will fit on my wrist.


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Old 28 November 2022, 03:58 PM   #36
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Thanks for the replies everyone.

Lots of interesting takes, and I’m considering adding a sea dweller in addition to looking at other brands. Still love the crown though
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Old 28 November 2022, 06:58 PM   #37
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From your forum name and your post you are obviously a very smart guy.

But note that Padi is not a moderator on TRF but a ‘life patron’ and is entitled to his opinion.
He knows more about Rolex watches than most here.

You are also entitled to you opinion but probably on a temporary basis?
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Old 28 November 2022, 07:31 PM   #38
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Thanks for the replies everyone.

Lots of interesting takes, and I’m considering adding a sea dweller in addition to looking at other brands. Still love the crown though
Unfortunately, the fliplock extension has been removed from current Seadwellers and Deepseas.

You'd need an older reference to get the dive extension as part of the bracelet.

You could source the extension link from a 116600 which would fit your Sub.

https://www.chrono-shop.net/en/bands...ef-116600.html
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Old 28 November 2022, 07:39 PM   #39
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Would one be able to add the flip open divers extension from the older sea dweller to a 114060 sub? I find on my 8/7mm semi dry there is absolutely no way it will fit on my wrist.


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Well even my vintage 5513 would fit over my 9mm semi dry neoprene dive suite.
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Old 29 November 2022, 12:45 AM   #40
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Not sure what you mean. I have spent time mountain biking, baseball, tennis, soccer, etc with my Daytona and sub and never once had a clasp problem or the bracelet or clasp fail. The dive extension is only one part, my sub (16610) has plenty of adjustment options that I can make in 10 seconds and then can go to the diver extension if I need more room. How thick is your dive suit? Unless your diving suit looks like the stay puffed marshmallow man or the Michelin man, your sub will be fine.
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Old 29 November 2022, 03:27 AM   #41
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This is right from the submariner manual,

“On the Oyster bracelet, the Rolex Glidelock fine-adjustment system enables you to adjust the bracelet length in approximately 2 mm increments up to around 20 mm, which allows you to wear the watch over a diving suit.”

Isn’t 20 mm enough to fit over a divers suit?
If we take a 19cm wrist (or 7.5 inches) that gives a radius of 3.02 cm

If we use an 5mm suit that gives a radius of 3.52 cm

Circumference increases to 22 cm (or 8.6 inches)

That's a 30 mm increase in bracelet length.

You'd need to be using a 3mm or less wetsuit to get the increase below 20mm (and that's assuming the whole 20mm was available)

If course the material will compress, but even so, no 20mm isn't necessarily enough
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Old 29 November 2022, 03:32 AM   #42
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Any thread that gets Padi to respond is a good thread. As always, thanks for sharing Peter! Most interesting poster on TRF!
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Old 29 November 2022, 03:41 AM   #43
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There are several well documented quality issues with Rolex watches, although in general I think Rolex quality is very good and compares favorably to other brands. Your post will sadly bring the fake experts and fake tough guy brand defenders out of the woodwork, of which TRF has an incredible number
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Old 29 November 2022, 03:46 AM   #44
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There are several well documented quality issues with Rolex watches, although in general I think Rolex quality is very good and compares favorably to other brands. Your post will sadly bring the fake experts and fake tough guy brand defenders out of the woodwork, of which TRF has an incredible number
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Old 29 November 2022, 03:46 AM   #45
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Every 1165xx Daytona has two safeties on the clasp, which even if the first pops open from being caught on something, you still have a backup safety.

Does the OP want the bracelet welded after closing the clasp? Even then, the springbars will fail at some point, all designed to save your hand.


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Old 29 November 2022, 04:07 AM   #46
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From your forum name and your post you are obviously a very smart guy.

But note that Padi is not a moderator on TRF but a ‘life patron’ and is entitled to his opinion.
He knows more about Rolex watches than most here.

You are also entitled to you opinion but probably on a temporary basis?
We can only hope Eddie
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Old 29 November 2022, 06:04 AM   #47
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I’m not sure you read that post correctly. It was a spring bar failure.
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Old 29 November 2022, 08:41 AM   #48
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Can't relate. My Daytona clasp is fine and I wear it with suits/sweaters all the time.
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Old 29 November 2022, 07:37 PM   #49
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Old 29 November 2022, 07:52 PM   #50
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Old 30 November 2022, 04:26 AM   #51
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This is right from the submariner manual,

“On the Oyster bracelet, the Rolex Glidelock fine-adjustment system enables you to adjust the bracelet length in approximately 2 mm increments up to around 20 mm, which allows you to wear the watch over a diving suit.”

Isn’t 20 mm enough to fit over a divers suit?
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Well even my vintage 5513 would fit over my 9mm semi dry neoprene dive suite.
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If we take a 19cm wrist (or 7.5 inches) that gives a radius of 3.02 cm

If we use an 5mm suit that gives a radius of 3.52 cm

Circumference increases to 22 cm (or 8.6 inches)

That's a 30 mm increase in bracelet length.

You'd need to be using a 3mm or less wetsuit to get the increase below 20mm (and that's assuming the whole 20mm was available)

If course the material will compress, but even so, no 20mm isn't necessarily enough
FWIW:

My wrist is a bit larger than 7,25" at 18,5+ cm. I've worn my 126610LN over 3.5 mm and 5.0 mm neoprene wetsuits which I use for spearfishing, that is freediving, not scuba.
Over the 3,5mm one, I don't even have to fully extend the glidelock. It's 2 notches from being fully extended and doesn't feel too snug; Perhaps I could squeeze it a notch further.
Over the 5.0mm I can keep it at one notch from full and it will soon begin to flop around after some extended time in the water..
And all this at the sea surface, so no compression at play.
I can see how the lack of a fliplock dive extension can be a problem with thicker / dry suits but should probably be a non-issue for recreational diving...
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Old 30 November 2022, 04:48 AM   #52
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Old 30 November 2022, 08:24 AM   #53
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[QUOTE=Devildog;12489823]Unfortunately, the fliplock extension has been removed from current Seadwellers and Deepseas.

You'd need an older reference to get the dive extension as part of the bracelet.

You could source the extension link from a 116600 which would fit your Sub.

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Old 30 November 2022, 07:33 PM   #54
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Unfortunately, the fliplock extension has been removed from current Seadwellers and Deepseas.

You'd need an older reference to get the dive extension as part of the bracelet.

You could source the extension link from a 116600 which would fit your Sub.

Thank you for the super helpful reply I appreciate it!


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Old 2 December 2022, 05:53 AM   #55
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Maybe purchasing an extra link could solve the problem?
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