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14 December 2017, 03:59 AM | #91 | |
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Strategic Buyers: Beverage Companies (soft drink and alcohol), pharmaceutical cos., food companies, Financial Buyers: Private Equity The industry will massively consolidate with great scale faster than it will become further fragmented, due to access to capital. It is easier for the big guys to obtain it (organically and via bought deals/secondary offerings). Aphria just did that again today. It is critical to raise as much cash for expansion now, as it will never be any cheaper to expand capacity to buy market share than now. |
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14 December 2017, 04:03 AM | #92 |
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yes, oxford is quite a place, some legends have gone through those colleges and some not so legendary, someone that you know very well,
they can also be very wrong, beware the intellectual. you admitted you love dope because it made you half a million bucks since nov 1st I could easily change my view for that type of money, as I wouldn't be the one smoking it nothing like a nice bit of profit driven hypocrisy. |
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I only invested in the Cannabis industry because I think it solves many issues for mankind. I did my own detailed analytical research first (flew across the country meeting with medical experts, policy makers, policy enforcers, leading industry participants, and patients). It’s called due diligence. It is not hypocritical to do your homework, develop an investment thesis, then put 65% of your wealth where your mouth is. |
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14 December 2017, 04:22 AM | #96 |
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No. I got nervous at one point and dumped all of my individual stocks. Clearly I wish I did not do that. But I did make a nice few bucks from that. Thank you!!
I learned my lesson. At this point, I am all about buy and hold long term.
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14 December 2017, 04:25 AM | #98 | |
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FWIW, please stop responding. Your posts are super well thought out and present valid reasons for why you are suggesting these stocks. You have been polite, patient and thorough in your explanations. Your thoughts have been so compelling it looks like about 5 of us have bought stock in this company. Thank you. But you are never going to win this argument. It is not worth having and it actually detracts from your great message. Just my $.02
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I understand. I think at your age your better to hold. I think your under 40 ? Anyways, best of luck on whatever you do
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I think you've made some interesting points and I tend to generally agree with much of what you've said. You do seem to be rather outnumbered here though, so rather than remain silent on the sideline I'd thought I'd offer some support. Full disclosure, I have never used marijuana, but I presume that unlike alcohol that is usually consumed in quantities that don't necessarily result in intoxication, recreational marijuana is only consumed to induce altered consciousness. If I'm wrong in that assumption I'm sure someone will correct me. Also, I'm sure that there are many teenagers and young adults who choose to abide by the law, and legalization of recreational pot will remove any prohibition for these individuals, thereby increasing exposure to an already vulnerable group. (I presume that there will be some age restrictions similar to alcohol and tobacco, but it will still be destigmatized regardless) I think the topic of this thread though was to address the investment potential of the cannabis industry, and while we can have differeing opinions on drug use, I think many would rather leave the moral issue aside and consider the profit potential. As I type this I realize how mercenary it must sound. I guess I'm driven more by capitalist ideals than moral integrity. Clearly I'm weak. I'm not going to actively promote recreational pot use, but I'm not about to miss out on a good business opportunity. Now I've probably pissed off all sides of the debate. Oh well... |
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no, I mean it would be hypocrisy on my part, but I admit I would take the money, and to hell with my view, lifes too short to turn down life changing bread, no laws are being broken. One thing I am, is a capitalist believer. its not hypocrisy on your part, you are a believer anyway, and you are cashing in, and why not. |
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I am 43. The vast majority of my money is with a wealth management guy from ML. I have a very small amount in individual stocks for the fun of it. At one point I thought I was going to trade back and forth and try and become wealthy. LMAO. So much for that. I just pick up a few shares of stuff here and there as I like to watch how the market works and it keeps me interested when I have skin in the game.
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We're not going to reach a moral consensus, but we can still benefit from this information. I believe that's what the OP intended. |
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CBD ( cannabidiol ) is the main non-psychoactive chemical compound in cannabis which is reported and confirmed to alleviate the symptoms of many medical and psychological ailments. It's exciting to watch this unfold, can you imagine instead of nasty pain medication you instead use something natural that has just about the same effect and no addiction. Personally I don't like smoking anything and never really did much, just the college stuff, but this is getting interesting with oils and edibles and not having to worry about your liver or even driving. Although I won't drive after taking the oil just to be safe until I'm sure it's ok. |
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This thread is an off-chute of a comment I made on a BitCoin thread about preferring to invest in Cannabis Stocks. My PM was burning up with people asking me to make the comment a separate discussion thread, so here we are. I’m not promoting anything, only answering questions with very detailed and accurate information from public sources, and my own private due diligence meetings, when I was looking to make Private Equity investments in several U.S. Medical Marijuana Dispensaries and Recreational Cannabis product manufacturer. Instead of tying money up with those companies for an unknown period of time, I have instead invested in 3 of the largest Canadian Cannabis companies, and am now just in Aphria based on current valuation. BTW...most foreign companies trade OTC in the U.S., unless they list on an exchange. NO Cannabis companies are allowed to list on a U.S. exchange since it is still federally illegal. However, Aphria, Canopy, Aurora, MedReleaf are all Canadian companies, where Medical Marijuana IS legal, are publicly-listed on the Toronto Stock Exchange. Hence, trading OTC in the U.S. These 4 companies are NOT pink sheet penny stocks. They each have market caps between $1.5-3.0 billion. There may be some scammy pink sheet Cannabis Cos out there, but these sure as heck aren’t them. If they were, Constellation Brands, the U.S. publicly-traded, maker of Corona, Modelo, Svedka Vodka, Kim Crawford Wines, etc. wouldn’t have invested $200MM into Canopy with warrants for another $200MM. To the OP (financial advisor) who talks of me promoting stocks. He and I could have one hell of a debate about the inherent conflicts of interest within the investment industry, so he may not really want to go there. 26 years on Wall Street, and also grew up around it my whole life, so I’d be me more than happy to lift the veil on that racket if he’d like. |
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For the record, I am 100% in favor of legalized medical marijuana. My only issue is with its recreational use. If I can profit substantially off its legal sale however (recreational or medical), I'm pretty sure a fat portfolio will assuage my moral confliction. |
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14 December 2017, 05:23 AM | #107 |
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U.S. Patent on Use of Cannabinoids
Clearly, there is some potential medicinal value in Cannabis and Hemp...
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Agreed, but now the U.S. Government needs to re-schedule Cannabis and Hemp to allow wide-scale scientific research. Objectively, does anybody else smell a rat in that marijuana is viewed by the DEA in the same way as Heroin and Cocaine? Kind seems like a conspiracy funded by the alcohol and pharmaceutical industries to block the advancement of a potential replacement for their own offerings. Really feels that way.
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Understand. Didn’t mean same exact schedule level so much as the reasons for the various schedules. DEA has Cannabis listed as having no medicinal value. That was my point, especially when the government holds a Patent that states otherwise.
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What is the prognosis for products made from hemp, like clothing etc.
I've read that its a better product than cotton. Is this also a viable industry waiting to bloom? |
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I always felt George Michael destroyed himself on dope,
in relative terms, he hardly performed and his output in the last 20 years was sporadic at best. he ended up as a recluse at his mansion in Oxfordshire, dead at 53 alone and unhappy. Maybe the dope helped him, and things would have been worse without.....you decide. |
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You gave me some good advice before about not debating that line of irrational reasoning. Hard to ignore such non-sense, especially when you’re just trying to be helpful and informative, but you were right. I suggest you do the same. Don’t take the bait. It’s like this anyway...
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It’s beneath you. But it’s where I dwell. However, I am trying to rise above. I really am. I just couldn’t help myself on this one.
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Absolutely! Hemp can be bred to be very rich in CBD oil, the non-psychotropic compound believed to have some the most effective therapeutic/medical potential, AND industrial hemp fiber, which is a renewable resource in the same fashion as say bamboo. It is already used in SO many products...including car door panels as insulation, amongs tons of other uses. These companies also produce hemp, and are pushing for increased cultivation.
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I’m in. Bought 600 shares of Aphria APHQE on the dip ( not on purpose just got lucky ) last night. We will see how this turns out. I have been a long term proponent against prohibition when it wasn’t particularly good for your career to be. Time to put a bit of money where my mouth is on this.
and I am one of the members that PMed the OP about this. He was nice enough to give me some thoughtful advice. Thank you. |
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