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toxicavenger · 26 March 2019, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Juantxo

I did ask for the 16570 in best condition available, for which I paid $1000 more than the cost of the other two 16570 Polar available at the moment.

So they sent you the best watch they had and you are complaining about it?

Can you post regular pictures of the watch and not magnifications of it?

007timer · 26 March 2019, 03:03 PM

This watch has been around the block and a few buffing wheels one too many times.

Return policy?

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68Sub5512 · 26 March 2019, 03:39 PM

Instead of writing to an Internet forum, why not contact the seller, and see how he handles your complaint?
That speaks volumes more than posting here, where the seller isn’t addressed.
Good luck either way.

And let us know how the transaction gets resolved. That’s only fair after posting your side of a two way transaction.

toxicavenger · 26 March 2019, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 007timer

This watch has been around the block and a few buffing wheels one too many times.

Return policy?

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You can tell that by a partial pic of a bezel?

Juantxo · 27 March 2019, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by toxicavenger

You can tell that by a partial pic of a bezel?

Wouldn't it be worse to have a partially polished bezel than a totally polished bezel...? In any case, the watch being discussed here, for better or worse, had the whole bezel polished as smoothly as the bracelet.

mgsooner · 27 March 2019, 04:06 AM

Trusted seller with many, many transactions on TRF
DavidSW
HQ Milton

That about it?

Juantxo · 27 March 2019, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgsooner

Trusted seller with many, many transactions on TRF
DavidSW
HQ Milton

That about it?

Just ad for me, brother.

Humble michael · 27 March 2019, 04:35 AM

Just call the credit card company and dispute the charge. Also claim w pay pal .

toxicavenger · 27 March 2019, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juantxo

Wouldn't it be worse to have a partially polished bezel than a totally polished bezel...? In any case, the watch being discussed here, for better or worse, had the whole bezel polished as smoothly as the bracelet.

Like I asked before why don't you post regular pics of the watch?

You can still see the lines in the bezel some. Like I mentioned before you seemed like you had pretty wild expectations on such a older watch that was used.

Post like this gives the freedom for someone to trash a company without any info. If BOB gave you pictures like you posted you would have been furious.

toxicavenger · 27 March 2019, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgsooner

Trusted seller with many, many transactions on TRF
DavidSW
HQ Milton

That about it?

How do these trusted sellers refinish their watches? I am sure they do not go back to Rolex before they are listed for sale. Then who does the work?

toxicavenger · 27 March 2019, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by james272

Just call the credit card company and dispute the charge. Also claim w pay pal .

What is he going to dispute? I can see the call now "Oh I think my bezel might have been slightly polished, can I get a refund?"

Juantxo · 28 March 2019, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by toxicavenger

What is he going to dispute? I can see the call now "Oh I think my bezel might have been slightly polished, can I get a refund?"

You seem to be an employee, or similar, for the vendor. Otherwise, please help yourself and buy from them.

Why the need to stalk my post...?

By the way, I bought the watch for my sister, thus I don’t have it available for pictures. In any case, I have nothing to prove to you. Think, do, say whatever you wish.

In case you suffer an experience similar to mine, we are lucky to have this section to alert others. Or you can stay with Seiko.

toxicavenger · 28 March 2019, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juantxo

You seem to be an employee, or similar, for the vendor. Otherwise, please help yourself and buy from them.

Why the need to stalk my post...?

By the way, I bought the watch for my sister, thus I don’t have it available for pictures. In any case, I have nothing to prove to you. Think, do, say whatever you wish.

In case you suffer an experience similar to mine, we are lucky to have this section to alert others. Or you can stay with Seiko.

I am not an employee and I do not know who they are. But when you are bashing a company you should prove some info. You would expect the same treatment if you were in their shoes. Right?

What would you mention Seiko? Is that a comment trying to devalue my questions? If so then you are thick.

ThatExplorer · 28 March 2019, 02:15 AM

I’d buy it! Lol depending on price of course.

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Knappo 1307 · 28 March 2019, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juantxo

You seem to be an employee, or similar, for the vendor. Otherwise, please help yourself and buy from them.

Why the need to stalk my post...?

By the way, I bought the watch for my sister, thus I don’t have it available for pictures. In any case, I have nothing to prove to you. Think, do, say whatever you wish.

In case you suffer an experience similar to mine, we are lucky to have this section to alert others. Or you can stay with Seiko.

If you think Seiko is a slight, I feel sorry for you. Probably one of the best makes for the money out there...

freefly · 28 March 2019, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

If you think Seiko is a slight, I feel sorry for you. Probably one of the best makes for the money out there...

Not to mention the fact that there are several Seiko models that you couldn't even come close to purchasing/affording if you only had "16570" money.

Juantxo · 29 March 2019, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by freefly

Not to mention the fact that there are several Seiko models that you couldn't even come close to purchasing/affording if you only had "16570" money.

Is this about employees or people related to dubious vendors going against someone who has posted a legitimate issue...? Or maybe just people with nothing better to do than doing things they only dare doing from the safety of their computers...? Either way what you guys are doing is pretty lowly.

And if someone takes my comment about Seiko as a slight it is because they are projection their own prejudice.

michael067 · 1 April 2019, 07:49 AM

Wow I would get my money back ASAP. Watch looks way old and worn.

bonatto · 1 April 2019, 07:24 PM

It's a 20 years old steel Rolex. It's probably been serviced and definitely has been polished. Good luck finding an unpolished mint 20 year old five digit, they exist. It's all relative, but tired and old may be overstating it a bit. It's been used, but certainly does not look abused.

Do you have photos of the watch before you bought it?

timedate · 3 April 2019, 04:23 PM

i just dont understand this desire of people to pay for something without seeing it first, or the idea of sending vast sums to some stranger in the risky hope that the item is as described or actually arrives,

nothing is worth the risk, i am strictly old school and will be staying this way.

In all frankness, its a modern nonsense.

aiber · 8 April 2019, 02:43 AM

This is why I would not pay via wire transfer. If I were you I would file a dispute with my credit card company.

aiber · 8 April 2019, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timedate

i just dont understand this desire of people to pay for something without seeing it first, or the idea of sending vast sums to some stranger in the risky hope that the item is as described or actually arrives,

nothing is worth the risk, i am strictly old school and will be staying this way.

In all frankness, its a modern nonsense.

Simple. To save money.

28 March 2019, 02:15 AM	#104
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26 March 2019, 03:03 PM	#92
007timer "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: US Watch: BLNR Posts: 1,383	This watch has been around the block and a few buffing wheels one too many times. Return policy? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

26 March 2019, 03:39 PM	#93
68Sub5512 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Northern CA, USA Posts: 30	Instead of writing to an Internet forum, why not contact the seller, and see how he handles your complaint? That speaks volumes more than posting here, where the seller isn’t addressed. Good luck either way. And let us know how the transaction gets resolved. That’s only fair after posting your side of a two way transaction.

27 March 2019, 04:06 AM	#96
mgsooner "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Real Name: Matthew Location: Tulsa, OK, USA Posts: 1,906	Trusted seller with many, many transactions on TRF DavidSW HQ Milton That about it?

27 March 2019, 04:35 AM	#98
Humble michael "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: James Cline Location: san antonio Watch: 5711 white , 5990, Posts: 1,218	Just call the credit card company and dispute the charge. Also claim w pay pal .

1 April 2019, 07:49 AM	#108
michael067 Banned Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: Mike Location: Las Vegas Watch: TT DJ 16233 Posts: 1,002	Wow I would get my money back ASAP. Watch looks way old and worn.

1 April 2019, 07:24 PM	#109
bonatto "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: UK/EU Posts: 222	It's a 20 years old steel Rolex. It's probably been serviced and definitely has been polished. Good luck finding an unpolished mint 20 year old five digit, they exist. It's all relative, but tired and old may be overstating it a bit. It's been used, but certainly does not look abused. Do you have photos of the watch before you bought it?

3 April 2019, 04:23 PM	#110
timedate - Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: uk Posts: 1,001	i just dont understand this desire of people to pay for something without seeing it first, or the idea of sending vast sums to some stranger in the risky hope that the item is as described or actually arrives, nothing is worth the risk, i am strictly old school and will be staying this way. In all frankness, its a modern nonsense.

8 April 2019, 02:43 AM	#111
aiber "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Miami Posts: 29	This is why I would not pay via wire transfer. If I were you I would file a dispute with my credit card company.

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