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Old 13 July 2019, 01:30 AM   #1
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Considering "Vintage", When did you make the Move?

I have been looking into a "168000" for sometime . . . (Few years)
I have had an opportunity to buy one or 2, but the price seemed to be Exorbitant or there was not enough "Gurantee" behind it.

What decision point . . .or where were you in your collection when you decided it was time to get a "Classic" or "Vintage" watch?

I have a 216570, 214270, and a couple other non-rolex . . . so it wont be a "SOLO" or "1-Watch" type of deal.
The Primary thought in my head has been this . . . ."Why Spend $#### on an older watch when i can generally get a NEW watch for the same Price"

Just looking for some stories . . Opinions . .. thoughts . . . and Maybe Encouragement to go after a "000" as it has a bit of significance to me.
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Old 13 July 2019, 01:40 AM   #2
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Make it happen! Just be patient and find a watch that presents well. These pieces will only appreciate.
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Old 13 July 2019, 02:00 AM   #3
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Most collectors get into the vintage arena looking for something nostalgic, good-looking and able to retain its value over time.

Vintage Rolex from the 1960s through the mid 1980s is where you will find most of the vintage models that collectors enjoy and collect. Most of these models have matte dials and transition to the glossy dials during the first half of the 1980s. (Many of the models on my list here came with both matte and glossy dials.)

Some of the models you could look at are:

Submariners - 5513, 1680, 5512, 16800
GMTs- 1675, 16750
Explorer - 1016 and Explorer II 1655
Sea Dwellers - 1665, 16660
Datejusts - several models/variations
Daytonas - several models

The Submariner 168000 is noticeably missing from my list! It really isn't considered vintage by most collectors and the prices have been rather stagnant for that model. It is similar to the Submariner 16610 except for the type of stainless steel used in the manufacturing process.
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Old 13 July 2019, 02:43 AM   #4
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Most collectors get into the vintage arena looking for something nostalgic, good-looking and able to retain its value over time.

Vintage Rolex from the 1960s through the mid 1980s is where you will find most of the vintage models that collectors enjoy and collect. Most of these models have matte dials and transition to the glossy dials during the first half of the 1980s. (Many of the models on my list here came with both matte and glossy dials.)

Some of the models you could look at are:

Submariners - 5513, 1680, 5512, 16800
GMTs- 1675, 16750
Explorer - 1016 and Explorer II 1655
Sea Dwellers - 1665, 16660
Datejusts - several models/variations
Daytonas - several models

The Submariner 168000 is noticeably missing from my list! It really isn't considered vintage by most collectors and the prices have been rather stagnant for that model. It is similar to the Submariner 16610 except for the type of stainless steel used in the manufacturing process.

Im hoping to get into something that is "Special" to me . .. Birth year. Thats why i ask about a "000" sub. Im not after a vintage just for the name or the clout . . . or EVEN value. More after something that is significant to me.

I do appreciate the list you have provided . . . You have given me some Homework, such an oddity that i will enjoy this homework! , and i will be looking through these models to see if i change my mind on the "000".

THanks a bunch!!
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Old 13 July 2019, 04:09 AM   #5
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Realise everyone different but I don’t get the birth year watch. Condition should be the No 1 priority.

After purchasing my SD in 2005 - started planning for the next purchase & started to appreciate the beauty of vintage pieces through forums such as this one & VRF. Being a novice & the vintage market being a mine field- decided to purchase my 1680 & 1665 from a dealer with a stellar reputation. For me the premium was worth the piece of mind
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Old 13 July 2019, 04:21 AM   #6
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Realise everyone different but I don’t get the birth year watch. Condition should be the No 1 priority.

After purchasing my SD in 2005 - started planning for the next purchase & started to appreciate the beauty of vintage pieces through forums such as this one & VRF. Being a novice & the vintage market being a mine field- decided to purchase my 1680 & 1665 from a dealer with a stellar reputation. For me the premium was worth the piece of mind
I agree. The "birth year" hype is a dealer marketing tool that has gone mainstream. I don't get it either. As mentioned - condition should be the priority when buying any watch, let alone a vintage watch.
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Old 13 July 2019, 06:24 AM   #7
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I was after a birth year 1977 at first just because of the hype, then realized i was only limiting myself and would have to wait and wait for the rite one..when i want something, i want it NOW pretty much - So i ended up with a beautiful 16800 from early 80s with matte dial and i couldn't be happier
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Old 13 July 2019, 06:51 AM   #8
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I agree. The "birth year" hype is a dealer marketing tool that has gone mainstream. I don't get it either. As mentioned - condition should be the priority when buying any watch, let alone a vintage watch.
Agree completely! You can’t create sentimentality. Why does a way he made the year you were born mean anything more? Buy the watch you want, and don’t try to make it more “special”
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Old 13 July 2019, 07:42 AM   #9
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I got into vintage because back in the day anybody could walk in a store and buy a new one. Vintage and matte dials had exclusivity and classic charm and appeal...one of the same reasons I and other people like old cars....
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Old 13 July 2019, 10:28 AM   #10
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Triple 0 i thought was a “rarity” with a short production run?
Does that not add to the exclusivity, and therefore a cool factor in tracking down a good one?


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Old 13 July 2019, 11:16 AM   #11
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I got into vintage after buying my only new Rolex (Explorer) and after a while being left feeling very underwhelmed by the case shape. The slab like “maxi” case just isn’t as graceful as the older 4 and 5 digit designs.
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Old 13 July 2019, 11:29 AM   #12
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Primary thought in my head has been this . . . ."Why Spend $#### on an older watch when i can generally get a NEW watch for the same Price"
Problem is you can’t at the moment. Want a ceramic Pepsi? Expect to pay $18k+ at your local Grey Dealer.
Want a mint 16710? $10k all day long.
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Old 13 July 2019, 11:50 AM   #13
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I got into vintage after buying my only new Rolex (Explorer) and after a while being left feeling very underwhelmed by the case shape. The slab like “maxi” case just isn’t as graceful as the older 4 and 5 digit designs.
Can't agree more. You should get into vintage if/because you like the watches more than modern. The modern watches are better built, have better movements, etc but the vintage look worlds better, in my opinion. I have a modern Datejust and like it, but my next will be vintage.
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Old 13 July 2019, 10:45 PM   #14
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Vintage is fantastic and not your everyday Rolex that you see out there. For a newbie, buy from a trusted seller or spend some considerable time doing some research.
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Old 14 July 2019, 02:54 PM   #15
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I can't imagine limiting myself to this year's line of products, whether watches or any other consumer good. I get to choose from every watch available ever made! Vintage, yeah. Oh yes. Why wouldn't you want to live the limitless life?
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Old 15 July 2019, 04:50 AM   #16
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I got ito vintage by buying a new 1016 Explorer in 1981, and wearing it for 30+ years.
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Old 15 July 2019, 10:54 AM   #17
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I got into vintage by buying a new 1016 Explorer in 1981, and wearing it for 30+ years.
I got into vintage by buying a new 5513 Submariner in 1970 for $130, and wearing it for 49+ years.
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Old 15 July 2019, 11:10 AM   #18
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I got into vintage by buying a new 1675 GMT Master in 1978 for $ 520,- and wearing it for 41 years.

I still have the 100% complete package (incl. purchase invoice) of my unpolished, fully original 1978 Rolex 1675 GMT Master.....





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Old 15 July 2019, 12:01 PM   #19
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Considering "Vintage", When did you make the Move?

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I got into vintage by buying a new 1675 GMT Master in 1978 for $ 520,- and wearing it for 41 years.



I still have the 100% complete package (incl. purchase invoice) of my unpolished, fully original 1978 Rolex 1675 GMT Master.....













This, and the last two previous posts, almost make me want to cry that at nearly 60 I didn’t appreciate watches back in my 20’s. The GMT is such a stellar piece to have from new. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 15 July 2019, 12:32 PM   #20
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Sweet 1675 and great story
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Old 15 July 2019, 10:33 PM   #21
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5 digits Rolex might not be vintage for now but 10 years down the road might be sought after too
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Old 15 July 2019, 10:36 PM   #22
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5 digits Rolex might not be vintage for now but 10 years down the road might be sought after too


They’re already rising in value so no need to wait for ten years!!
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Old 16 July 2019, 06:36 AM   #23
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I already had daily wears but prefer vintage. Thankfully things were MUCH better a decade ago
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Beautiful patina...
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