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Frakis · 8 April 2018, 10:02 PM

Hi all,
I'm proud to be an owner of a 16710 - 3186. Some argue they would prefer the more reliable 3185 movement. Others say they wouldnt pay a premium. Nobody really knows how many 16710's were fitted with the 3186 caliber as Rolex doesn't release production numbers. I'm not an expert, but my advice would be to hold on to these if you have one. The last 10 years have proven this is a collectible timepiece, and only going to raise in value!

I've read that this combo was introduced as early as serial numbers starting with Z6xx. Let's compose our own database.

I'm curious to know:
- The letter and as much of the serial number you feel comfortable sharing.
- Is the 2 in GMT-Master a Roman numeral/stick/rectangular?
- Country of origin.
- Is your original warranty a credit card?

So to all owner's of the 16710 - 3186, past and present, post your pictures!

Here is my M3xx/rectangular/US/Credit card on my newly acquired jubilee. Cheers!

Frakis · 13 April 2018, 02:04 AM

M350465 Coke/stick/UK/credit card dated in 2013.

LLmrol · 13 April 2018, 02:18 AM

Instant subscription on this thread!

Frakis · 13 April 2018, 02:18 AM

Z798xxx/stick/credit card

Frakis · 13 April 2018, 02:37 AM

Z96xx/rectangular/credit card

Frakis · 13 April 2018, 02:59 AM

Zxxx/stick/Italy/credit card

Recaro18 · 13 April 2018, 04:23 AM

M3/rectagular and no card, but can’t be picky with these rare breeds! Condition is a must for me..
Dark blue (almost black on different lighting) and faded red (salmon color) insert!!

JCC296 · 13 April 2018, 04:50 PM

Owner of two Z96 and one M23 3186s

Andad · 13 April 2018, 05:22 PM

M3/stick/US/card.

fskywalker · 13 April 2018, 07:27 PM

Nice! Where they also available with rehaut like on the 3186's Explorer II's ?

BLNR Nairobi · 13 April 2018, 07:43 PM

Beautiful watches.

HL65 · 13 April 2018, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fskywalker

Nice! Where they also available with rehaut like on the 3186's Explorer II's ?

No.

Bagman · 13 April 2018, 08:28 PM

Love my Pepsi. Looking for a Coke with jubilee band

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mineral · 14 April 2018, 12:31 AM

Can my NOS coke gmt stick error dial join? Unfortunately it does not have 3186 movement. Wanted the 3186 movement GMT too but price seems very high nowadays. Happy for those who are owning it. Cheers

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JCC296 · 14 April 2018, 01:57 AM

my four NOS Pepsi (Z 3185 x2, Z9 3186, M2 3186)

TacticaLCawacoL · 14 April 2018, 02:17 AM

Nice thread guys and really nice watches. After 13 years of Rolex passion, i just start being interested in the GMT... I know i am late. But i am going to catch up thanks to all of you.

sond86 · 14 April 2018, 07:10 PM

Was this 3186 gmt ever made with an all black insert?

And is the red blue bezel more common than red black?

Mine is M3xxxxx

Andad · 14 April 2018, 08:00 PM

Interesting question onthe 3186 with black bezel.
I would think so but I can't remember ever seeing one?

This thread might turn one up.

Nice pix btw.

mineral · 14 April 2018, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCC296

my four NOS Pepsi (Z 3185 x2, Z9 3186, M2 3186)

Speechless and thanks for sharing

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Fabrice M · 9 May 2018, 12:58 AM

Here is mine, an M3 Serial (w card) next to her sister Coke a P serial and the first Rolex I bought... And soon to be joined by a 126710BLRO... ; )

cdubs · 21 November 2018, 03:49 PM

- z968***
- Stick
- USA
- No, have RSC service papers though

Swaye · 18 April 2019, 09:12 PM

Perfect time to see this thread! I have a Z8/Stick/US/CreditCard&RSCCard incoming!

hammywatch · 19 June 2019, 04:57 PM

Dear RF members!

Recently saw a Z489XXX for sale claiming it has 3186 movement in it.

Dial is a normal Roman dial.

I’m thinking of getting it but is there anything fishy I need to look out for?

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Andad · 19 June 2019, 05:31 PM

A Z4 Pepsi seems early for a 3186.

Pull the crown and give it exactly one turn.

How many hours did it advance?

charger_vital · 23 October 2019, 07:57 AM

Incoming! Found a rare deal on this. Happy to finally have a Pepsi back in the mix. And a Stick 3186 no less

Z87xxxx
Stick
USA
No Card

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Frakis · 23 October 2019, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charger_vital

Incoming! Found a rare deal on this. Happy to finally have a Pepsi back in the mix. And a Stick 3186 no less

Z87xxxx
Stick
USA
No Card

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Looks great! Wear that beauty in good health.

blue lion · 23 October 2019, 11:31 AM

I have a Z2xxxxxx which is confirmed the 3185. Not sure where between Z2 and maybe Z6 the 3186 starts...

Chadridv · 23 October 2019, 11:45 AM

Don't have a 3186, but for the data I have a Z8XXXXX, stick dial, credit card style warranty.

dcash0615 · 23 October 2019, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCC296

my four NOS Pepsi (Z 3185 x2, Z9 3186, M2 3186)

DGB · 23 October 2019, 10:38 PM

They aren’t that rare, I suspect 5 to 10% of the 16710 would be with the later 3186 movement.
Still I see it as a nice watch to have in your collection.
Mine is a Z9, from US,
Always on my wrist when I travel.

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8 April 2018, 10:02 PM	#1
Frakis 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: USA Posts: 2,819	The OFFICIAL GMT-Master II 16710 - 3186 Owners Club! Hi all, I'm proud to be an owner of a 16710 - 3186. Some argue they would prefer the more reliable 3185 movement. Others say they wouldnt pay a premium. Nobody really knows how many 16710's were fitted with the 3186 caliber as Rolex doesn't release production numbers. I'm not an expert, but my advice would be to hold on to these if you have one. The last 10 years have proven this is a collectible timepiece, and only going to raise in value! I've read that this combo was introduced as early as serial numbers starting with Z6xx. Let's compose our own database. I'm curious to know: - The letter and as much of the serial number you feel comfortable sharing. - Is the 2 in GMT-Master a Roman numeral/stick/rectangular? - Country of origin. - Is your original warranty a credit card? So to all owner's of the 16710 - 3186, past and present, post your pictures! Here is my M3xx/rectangular/US/Credit card on my newly acquired jubilee. Cheers! __________________ Two Factor Authentication Enabled On My Account.

13 April 2018, 02:04 AM	#2
Frakis 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: USA Posts: 2,819	M350465 Coke/stick/UK/credit card dated in 2013. __________________ Two Factor Authentication Enabled On My Account.

13 April 2018, 02:18 AM	#4
Frakis 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: USA Posts: 2,819	Z798xxx/stick/credit card __________________ Two Factor Authentication Enabled On My Account.

13 April 2018, 02:37 AM	#5
Frakis 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: USA Posts: 2,819	Z96xx/rectangular/credit card __________________ Two Factor Authentication Enabled On My Account.

13 April 2018, 02:59 AM	#6
Frakis 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: USA Posts: 2,819	Zxxx/stick/Italy/credit card __________________ Two Factor Authentication Enabled On My Account.

13 April 2018, 02:18 AM	#3
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13 April 2018, 04:23 AM	#7
Recaro18 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: RiCkY Location: WESTSIDE Watch: 16520 Posts: 11,038	M3/rectagular and no card, but can’t be picky with these rare breeds! Condition is a must for me.. Dark blue (almost black on different lighting) and faded red (salmon color) insert!! __________________ Passion for Mechanical Timepieces! IG: @crown_in_oyster_case ~Connecting people through my passion, one timepiece at a time~

13 April 2018, 04:50 PM	#8
JCC296 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: California Posts: 839	Owner of two Z96 and one M23 3186s

13 April 2018, 07:27 PM	#10
fskywalker 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Francisco Location: San Juan, PR Watch: Is Ticking ! Posts: 24,602	Nice! Where they also available with rehaut like on the 3186's Explorer II's ? __________________ Francisco ♛ 16610 / 116264 Ω 168.022 / 2535.80.00 / 2230.50.00 Zenith 02.470.405 Henry Archer Eclipse 2FA security enabled

13 April 2018, 07:43 PM	#11
BLNR Nairobi "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Real Name: Tony Location: Global Watch: All of them. Posts: 1,104	Beautiful watches.

13 April 2018, 08:28 PM	#13
Bagman Banned Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Louisiana Watch: Rolex Pepsi Posts: 543	Love my Pepsi. Looking for a Coke with jubilee band Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

14 April 2018, 12:31 AM	#14
mineral "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,670	The OFFICIAL GMT-Master II 16710 - 3186 Owners Club! Can my NOS coke gmt stick error dial join? Unfortunately it does not have 3186 movement. Wanted the 3186 movement GMT too but price seems very high nowadays. Happy for those who are owning it. Cheers Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Watching date changes every midnight

14 April 2018, 01:57 AM	#15
JCC296 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: California Posts: 839	I'll play my four NOS Pepsi (Z 3185 x2, Z9 3186, M2 3186)

14 April 2018, 02:17 AM	#16
TacticaLCawacoL "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Milky Way Galaxy Watch: Sunray/Meteorite Posts: 311	Nice thread guys and really nice watches. After 13 years of Rolex passion, i just start being interested in the GMT... I know i am late. But i am going to catch up thanks to all of you. __________________ .__. I don’t mind the value of a Rolex, i just admire the technology and the beauty of it .__. 16600/2005, 116233/2008, 214270/2014, 116234/2016, 116618LB/2017, 116200/2017, 118239/2017, 116622/2018, 326.30.40.50.02.001/2018.

14 April 2018, 07:10 PM	#17
sond86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Real Name: Gym Rat Location: USA Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,325	The OFFICIAL GMT-Master II 16710 - 3186 Owners Club! Was this 3186 gmt ever made with an all black insert? And is the red blue bezel more common than red black? Mine is M3xxxxx

14 April 2018, 08:00 PM	#18
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,797	Interesting question onthe 3186 with black bezel. I would think so but I can't remember ever seeing one? This thread might turn one up. Nice pix btw. __________________ E

21 November 2018, 03:49 PM	#21
cdubs "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: California Watch: 16710 w/ 3186 Posts: 16	- z968*** - Stick - USA - No, have RSC service papers though

19 June 2019, 04:57 PM	#23
hammywatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Real Name: Calvin Location: Singapore Watch: 16750 Posts: 25	Dear RF members! Recently saw a Z489XXX for sale claiming it has 3186 movement in it. Dial is a normal Roman dial. I’m thinking of getting it but is there anything fishy I need to look out for? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

19 June 2019, 05:31 PM	#24
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,797	A Z4 Pepsi seems early for a 3186. Pull the crown and give it exactly one turn. How many hours did it advance? __________________ E

23 October 2019, 07:57 AM	#25
charger_vital "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Basel Watch: LF Sport & Pepsi Posts: 920	Incoming! Found a rare deal on this. Happy to finally have a Pepsi back in the mix. And a Stick 3186 no less Z87xxxx Stick USA No Card Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

23 October 2019, 11:31 AM	#27
blue lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Florida State! Watch: It's just a watch. Posts: 1,463	I have a Z2xxxxxx which is confirmed the 3185. Not sure where between Z2 and maybe Z6 the 3186 starts...

23 October 2019, 11:45 AM	#28
Chadridv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Chadri Location: LI, NY Watch: 116610LV Posts: 11,343	Don't have a 3186, but for the data I have a Z8XXXXX, stick dial, credit card style warranty. __________________ - i͞n͟s͞t͟a͞g͞r͟a͞m͞ @ⓒⓄⓁⒹⓒⒶⓈⒺⓦⒶⒶⓉⒸⒽⒺⓈ

23 October 2019, 10:38 PM	#30
DGB "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: uk Posts: 989	They aren’t that rare, I suspect 5 to 10% of the 16710 would be with the later 3186 movement. Still I see it as a nice watch to have in your collection. Mine is a Z9, from US, Always on my wrist when I travel. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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