The current Batman?

[904VT]

Originally Posted by epc2

Well DavidSW removed all the BLNR's and LN's from the website , and he had a few last night, that might give you an idea.

Tells me he's figuring out the best way to jack up prices. Problem is at times like this a secondary seller can just slap whatever price on they want and the market assumes it's valued correctly. Wish i could do that in my business

[blada4life]

Originally Posted by peterpl

LOL Of course they are going to do that. All gray dealers are experts at twisting every single thing to make the most money off people.

To me its stupid to pick the old one. Its like choosing a car with a old dated engine rather than having one with the latest and greatest with bigger power output. The physical car is the same, and the wheels are different (in this case the bracelet). LOL

not exactly the same comparison. its more like a new ferrari coming out, and the existing one was a limited production, but has a worse gas mileage. Both look the same except for the rims and the new model is selling for double its price. Wonder what happens with the current one.

[Mr_Rolex]

Originally Posted by peterpl

LOL Of course they are going to do that. All gray dealers are experts at twisting every single thing to make the most money off people.



To me its stupid to pick the old one. Its like choosing a car with a old dated engine rather than having one with the latest and greatest with bigger power output. The physical car is the same, and the wheels are different (in this case the bracelet). LOL

I think I will have to disagree. To you it may be stupid but everyone has there own preference. I much prefer the oyster strap. I’ve never been a fan of the jubilee and I will definently not buy a watch just because it has a newer movement. I go for what I like the look of. And why are you comparing time peices with cars?? Never understood that concept lol


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[danny1305]

Originally Posted by peterpl

IMHO you'd be a fool to pay more money for the same watch aesthetically and not get the new Jubilee and new updated movement.

The movement alone is worth ALOT. And I honestly prefer the Jubilee its 100x more comfy since the BLNR doesnt have micro adjuster anyway.

You are in every single one of these threads calling people fools for not having the same opinion as you lol. Almost as if you are trying to convince yourself of something...

[strettyend]

Originally Posted by mistercoach32

I’m as laid back as they come and a “to each his own” guy, but I just don’t understand why Rolex puts a jubilee on a sport watch. The jubilee is the quintessential dress bracelet, if there is such a thing, and slapped it on another sports model. To me, it’s like wearing sneakers with a suit. It might be trendy right now but in 10 years people are going to look back and think, “What were they thinking? That looks ridiculous.”

Agree here its very odd to me.

[Banks]

Local grey just bumped prices up to 14.5k pound sterling!

[904VT]

Originally Posted by Mr_Rolex

I think I will have to disagree. To you it may be stupid but everyone has there own preference. I much prefer the oyster strap. I’ve never been a fan of the jubilee and I will definently not buy a watch just because it has a newer movement. I go for what I like the look of. And why are you comparing time peices with cars?? Never understood that concept lol


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Maybe the Oyster LN will come next year. Would be smart by Rolex because demand imo would be equal to the BLRO and BLNR Jubilees if the LN is Oyster

[Mr_Rolex]

Originally Posted by 904VT

Maybe the Oyster LN will come next year. Would be smart by Rolex because demand imo would be equal to the BLRO and BLNR Jubilees if the LN is Oyster

True. If they do then I will be making sure I get my hands on that lol


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[Andrejb]

Definitely down. Not discontinued, just comes with better movement and different bracelet, could also just find an oyster and have the exact same watch


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[Chaching]

Values will drop from here. End the madness!

[Ropa131]

I can still buy a 2017 Batman full set for $11,500...decisions decisions


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[Steel28]

Originally Posted by dmitrii_

Up for sure.

Ppl like sports watches on oyster.

Og Batman is now a short run classic.

That’s exactly right.

[arcentaur]

[Dr Watches]

Originally Posted by Juan Luis

The "Batman" will probably (IMO), stay at current prices while the 2019 "Dark Knight" will pull a 2018 "Pepsi"! LOL...
Won't take credit "Dark Knight" name, cause I read it HERE awhile ago. But I sure hope that nickname sticks!

Dork Knight

[feb29]

The "old" BLNR become classic and always be the first/original model with the first produced bi-color ceramic bezel. That said, the "old" BLNR is a collectible piece and will only go up in value.

[Jojoshop]

Originally Posted by mistercoach32

i’m as laid back as they come and a “to each his own” guy, but i just don’t understand why rolex puts a jubilee on a sport watch. The jubilee is the quintessential dress bracelet, if there is such a thing, and slapped it on another sports model. To me, it’s like wearing sneakers with a suit. It might be trendy right now but in 10 years people are going to look back and think, “what were they thinking? That looks ridiculous.”

+1

[Dr Watches]

Originally Posted by blada4life

i got lucky, i bought my 116520 right at this time for $11,500.... i've seen prices $15,000 to $17,000 and with mine having the "APH error", even higher. The grey i bought it from told me it was a mistake all resellers regret.

I got my 116520 in NOS condition for $9,000 when the new one was released. Super buy

[pkrussel]

I personally like the option of the oyster and the super jubilee not just the super jubilee, if indeed the new Batman is like the Pepsi.

[Juan Luis]

The "Pepsi" is here to stay. So that's the one that just might show the greatest grey market price difference in the coming months. Down.

[Likestheshiny]

Notice the all white text lettering on the dial on the new one?
Previous “GMT Master” was in blue.

No it wasn't.

I do prefer the jubilee to the oyster for the BLNR, but I wear mine on a leather strap regardless. I'm curious if I'll be able to casually "trade up" in a year or two if this thing hits market saturation.

That actually is the more interesting question. With the "base" LN model gone for the moment, will we see a lot more BLROs and BLNRs hit retail this year, or will the steel GMT just be completely invisible for a year until the updated LN arrives?

[Juan Luis]

Originally Posted by arcentaur

Ha!

[feb29]

Originally Posted by mistercoach32

I’m as laid back as they come and a “to each his own” guy, but I just don’t understand why Rolex puts a jubilee on a sport watch. The jubilee is the quintessential dress bracelet, if there is such a thing, and slapped it on another sports model. To me, it’s like wearing sneakers with a suit. It might be trendy right now but in 10 years people are going to look back and think, “What were they thinking? That looks ridiculous.”

I have to agree. Well said and good analogy

[avega357]

Originally Posted by mistercoach32

I’m as laid back as they come and a “to each his own” guy, but I just don’t understand why Rolex puts a jubilee on a sport watch. The jubilee is the quintessential dress bracelet, if there is such a thing, and slapped it on another sports model. To me, it’s like wearing sneakers with a suit. It might be trendy right now but in 10 years people are going to look back and think, “What were they thinking? That looks ridiculous.”

Product differentiation strategy. So that submariner is different with the oyster links.


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[Likestheshiny]

Product differentiation strategy. So that submariner is different with the oyster links.

Yep, and I'm surprised something like this didn't happen sooner. However, I always expected the change to be in the case -- thinner lugs for the GMT, or maybe even the crown guard going away. Just something to make the sub a little more "rugged" looking in comparison. Simply moving the springbar holes and throwing a new bracelet on feels like taking the easy way out.

[GSBC]

Originally Posted by feb29

The "old" BLNR become classic and always be the first/original model with the first produced bi-color ceramic bezel. That said, the "old" BLNR is a collectible piece and will only go up in value.

Wishful thinking, sorry...and I have an "old" BLNR.
The oyster might be preferable for some, but it has polished center links. The old movement, frankly is just sub par. Tudor at less than 50% of the price has 70-hour power reserve.
I'll be selling my mint BLNR from 2017. The first person to pay $12K gets it. PM me...

[lecorsaire]

Originally Posted by key

Down. The new BLNR has the newer/better movement and even before it was updated with a jubilee bracelet, people paid premium to source jubilee bracelets for their BLNRs.

Yes they did because it was a different look just like people put them on rubber. It’s nice to change things up but make no mistake for sports Rolex Oyster > jubilee.

[lecorsaire]

Originally Posted by GSBC

Wishful thinking, sorry...and I have an "old" BLNR.
The oyster might be preferable for some, but it has polished center links. The old movement, frankly is just sub par. Tudor at less than 50% of the price has 70-hour power reserve.
I'll be selling my mint BLNR from 2017. The first person to pay $12K gets it. PM me...

Then some 90% of Rolex are all “subpar” since the 70hr movements started in 2015. The Daytona has had a 70 hr movement since 2000 but that’s a different story.

[Switch]

Everyone bashing the previous movement, wasn't there a post not too long ago comparing the old to new movement in terms of maintenance, and it was found the previous movement was easier for maintenance, and that the established movement was just as good as the new untested one sans the power reserve in technical performance?

[GSBC]

Originally Posted by lecorsaire

Yes they did because it was a different look just like people put them on rubber. It’s nice to change things up but make no mistake for sports Rolex Oyster > jubilee.

I would agree but for the fact that it has polished center links. I much prefer the polished centers oyster on my Daytona.
I've always thought that element was incongruous to the overall GMT design and have seriously thought about brushing the centers.

[rtalk]

Why buy a 4 digit, 5 digit Pepsi when you can get a new six digit one? The details. I think over time people who want this reference will want the maxi case. Effectively this case is on its way out.