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Old 14 November 2018, 12:10 PM   #61
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From what I have seen, stickers on a new LVc is worth $500. DavidSW has a perfect example of what meaningless factory items are worth between two identical new watches.


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Old 14 November 2018, 12:45 PM   #62
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From what I have seen, stickers on a new LVc is worth $500. DavidSW has a perfect example of what meaningless factory items are worth between two identical new watches.


https://davidsw.com/product-category/rolex/submariner/
But I don’t believe the OP planned on leaving the stickers on. He’s gonna wear the watch. A watch with stickers is unworn. Thus the value is higher. A hang tag is a whole different story.
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Old 14 November 2018, 12:50 PM   #63
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It’s odd that this is not consistent with all AD’s, I have dealt with many and some keep them as part of their policy, others give them out and don’t seem to care or make a big deal about it

Doesn’t turn me off from a purchase at all but does affect resale (slightly)
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Old 14 November 2018, 12:58 PM   #64
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You must have the hang tag!
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Old 14 November 2018, 12:59 PM   #65
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But I don’t believe the OP planned on leaving the stickers on. He’s gonna wear the watch. A watch with stickers is unworn. Thus the value is higher. A hang tag is a whole different story.
Both LVc watches sold by DavidSW are brand new with one having the stickers removed by the dealer and one was not. It was a $500 value even though both are new and both were never sized. Crazy.
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Old 14 November 2018, 01:07 PM   #66
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It’s odd that this is not consistent with all AD’s, I have dealt with many and some keep them as part of their policy, others give them out and don’t seem to care or make a big deal about it

Doesn’t turn me off from a purchase at all but does affect resale (slightly)
If you complain to Rolex they will tell the dealer to pass you the hang tag. It's part of the package. It's the same as not giving you the booklets.

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It is no good. The original white hangtag has the watch´s serial number. My AD normally keeps them stamped to the invoice for his records and I had to fight like hell to get mine.
I second this...Heard about it as well.
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Old 14 November 2018, 05:25 PM   #67
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If you complain to Rolex they will tell the dealer to pass you the hang tag. It's part of the package. It's the same as not giving you the booklets.



No it's not the same as not giving you the booklets lol, it's a piece of cheap plastic that has a sticker on it with a barcode, many dealers and customers toss them. I hope folks are not getting hangtags confused with the COSC Hologram Chronometer Hang Tag (burgundy or green) which is part of the set. I'm gonna find a hangtag and burn it just for this thread.
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Old 14 November 2018, 10:52 PM   #68
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about to buy an Explorer II from a trusted seller. it's a complete set except for the hang tag with the serial number. How big of deal is not having the one tag.


Did you get the Expl. II from that seller or pass?

The tag, or lack of that tag, wouldn’t play a role for me. Unless you’re concerned about the future flipping price...


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Old 14 November 2018, 11:01 PM   #69
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Old 15 November 2018, 12:24 AM   #70
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about to buy an Explorer II from a trusted seller. it's a complete set except for the hang tag with the serial number. How big of deal is not having the one tag.
Did you end up buying the watch? Or were you looking for a new white hangtag to wear!?
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Old 15 November 2018, 02:59 AM   #71
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It is no good. The original white hangtag has the watch´s serial number. My AD normally keeps them stamped to the invoice for his records and I had to fight like hell to get mine.
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Yes I know.

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Old 15 November 2018, 03:37 AM   #72
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No big deal. I've bought watches from ADs that have been missing little things like this in the past. One was missing a bezel protector, the other was missing one of the booklets. It really isn't a big deal. Only us fanatics fret over this stuff.
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Old 15 November 2018, 05:46 AM   #73
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Both LVc watches sold by DavidSW are brand new with one having the stickers removed by the dealer and one was not. It was a $500 value even though both are new and both were never sized. Crazy.
Perhaps in your eyes, not in mine. I insist on a new watch being stickered, without I would not buy. Whats 500 on a new watch anyway ?
Not to resell but I just want to peel them off in the comfort of my home, resize the bracelet, set the time and ready to wear.
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Not a big deal ! Wouldn’t loose any sleep over it
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Hang tag with the serial number is withheld by certain ADs. I was refused to keep mine because "if Rolex were to find out they could be in serious trouble".
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Old 15 November 2018, 10:10 AM   #76
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It wouldn't deter me from buying but that's a good reason to negotiate because technically it's not a complete set. You can't replace it being it has the serial number on it.

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Old 15 November 2018, 10:13 AM   #77
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From what I have seen, stickers on a new LVc is worth $500. DavidSW has a perfect example of what meaningless factory items are worth between two identical new watches.


https://davidsw.com/product-category/rolex/submariner/
Well to me the hang tag is worth a lot more than stickers that will sooner rather than later be removed and thrown into the trash anyway. The hang tag belongs to the watch and is part of the full set. The stickers are not.

By the way, do none of the watches that davidsw is selling actually come with the hang tag?
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Old 15 November 2018, 10:16 AM   #78
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Hang tag with the serial number is withheld by certain ADs. I was refused to keep mine because "if Rolex were to find out they could be in serious trouble".
I think these certain ADs just use these hang tags for bookkeeping purposes and they are too lazy to change their procedures to accommodate customers who wish to receive the full set when they buy a Rolex watch. There is nothing about this hang tag in the memo from Rolex mentioned here:

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Old 15 November 2018, 10:23 AM   #79
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Well to me the hang tag is worth a lot more than stickers that will sooner rather than later be removed and thrown into the trash anyway. The hang tag belongs to the watch and is part of the full set. The stickers are not.

By the way, do none of the watches that davidsw is selling actually come with the hang tag?
All of the ones I just bought from him came with them. All mine were “new” so perhaps some preowned might not come with the white tags.
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All of the ones I just bought from him came with them. All mine were “new” so perhaps some preowned might not come with the white tags.
Well done, Sir!
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Old 15 November 2018, 10:59 AM   #81
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It wouldn't deter me from buying but that's a good reason to negotiate because technically it's not a complete set. You can't replace it being it has the serial number on it.

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Hey Nik, you seem to have the inside track here. So, the next time I buy a set that is missing the green hang tag, how much is that worth for me in negotiating a lower price? $10, $50, $100 etc...how much? Thanks.
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Hey Nik, you seem to have the inside track here. So, the next time I buy a set that is missing the green hang tag, how much is that worth for me in negotiating a lower price? $10, $50, $100 etc...how much? Thanks.
Probably $0 unless you find somebody that really wants that tag.
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Old 15 November 2018, 12:20 PM   #83
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Hey Nik, you seem to have the inside track here. So, the next time I buy a set that is missing the green hang tag, how much is that worth for me in negotiating a lower price? $10, $50, $100 etc...how much? Thanks.
Hey springer, l don't know about an inside track or to know any more than anyone and like l said it wouldn't deter me but at least it's a bargaining chip for a buyer. I know if l was buying the example as per David l would rather have 500. in my pocket than the tag.

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Hey springer, l don't know about an inside track or to know any more than anyone and like l said it wouldn't deter me but at least it's a bargaining chip for a buyer. I know if l was buying the example as per David l would rather have 500. in my pocket than the tag.
On modern watches, expect that bargaining chip to be worth $0. No one is going to budge $500 for the lack of a serial hang tag.
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Hang tag with the serial number is withheld by certain ADs. I was refused to keep mine because "if Rolex were to find out they could be in serious trouble".
That's what they say, but if you asked Rolex they would tell them to give that to them. The hang tag is used for their own purpose.
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That's what they say, but if you asked Rolex they would tell them to give that to them. The hang tag is used for their own purpose.
What purpose is that, and why do the sometimes seem to have to have it and sometimes not? I struggle to believe that Rolex needs that tag for anything.

Regarding negotiation, if the watch was new I suppose a discount of around $500 would be in order of it does not come with a full set. As the watch get's older and full sets become rarer, then that figure would go up. For a 30 year old watch the difference between a complete set and a set that is missing items will certainly be thousands of $.
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Huh?

Last time I looked at important auction results I didn’t see any big differences for a missing tag.




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no prob, you can buy "genuine" and "collectible" hang tags on ebay.
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[QUOTE=77T;9092796]Huh?

Last time I looked at important auction results I didn’t see any big differences for a missing tag.


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You didn't see a difference in price because there is no difference in pricing for a missing tag. Anyone that thinks there is a price difference for a missing green hang tag is speculating.
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no prob, you can buy "genuine" and "collectible" hang tags on ebay.
You can't buy the hang tag that comes with your watch and has the serial number of your watch on it on ebay.

Can someone knowledgeable chime in with information on when Rolex started issuing the hang tags with the watch serial number on them? We are not talking about the other generic hang tag. The serial numbered hag tags may be fairly recent, so auction results of watches that did not come with this hang tag in the first place are irrelevant.
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