The California dream is dying

[DLRIDES]

Originally Posted by dtwer

This.

IMO the biggest problem is for those who voted in people that turn the state into a dumpster fire to move to another state and repeat the same thing.

Every time without fail.

[Al1969]

Originally Posted by dtwer

this.

Imo the biggest problem is for those who voted in people that turn the state into a dumpster fire to move to another state and repeat the same thing.

x2.

[Mifune]

Gavin Newsom invites world's homeless to California


California Gov. Gavin Newsom pledged to house and feed the world’s homeless population this week during a whirlwind “Comeback California” tour that is designed to stave off a September recall by angry voters.

[Duey]

Originally Posted by Mifune

Gavin Newsom invites world's homeless to California


California Gov. Gavin Newsom pledged to house and feed the world’s homeless population this week during a whirlwind “Comeback California” tour that is designed to stave off a September recall by angry voters.

Great read about "The California Dream" is for everyone. "Newsom pointed to an $80 billion budget surplus that he said is enough money to help all achieve the American dream " .....

[Blansky]

From the Washington Examiner??????

Opportunists from the other side......

Nothing to see here. If you'd like me to explain it to you PM me.

[Tri-Tip]

I was born in CA (Los Angeles) and lived my entire life in Southern California. I've visited quite a few other parts of the country and couldn't see myself living anywhere else at this point, 53 years old. Possibly in retirement, but there really isn't anywhere else that appeals to me, other than possibly Hawaii.

I can't deal with the humidity in Florida, wouldn't want to live anyplace that has a true winter season (snow), it's just hard to beat what we have here as far as weather, variety of things to do, etc.

Yes, we pay a premium for all of this. However, wages are nearly proportional to the costs of living of the rest of the country, there is some premium for housing. Other things are actually less expensive for us based on the higher wages...the price of a car doesn't vary by much from location to location around the country. Therefore, a car is less expensive for someone in a higher wage area as a percentage of annual income.

As others have said here, every locale has it's share of natural disasters...hurricanes, floods, earthquakes, etc. so there is no hiding from all of them.

Do we have issues, of course, just like everywhere else...crime, homelessness, etc. You might not find that in rural areas, but they are giving of some of the things that make living in the suburbs great...entertainment, restaurants, etc. There is a place for every lifestyle, and you can't fault someone for choosing where they choose.

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by Blansky

Thanks Don. When the big one hits, I'm coming in a hurry. And don't give away my room to that VTCGuy. He's seems to be covering all his bases.

DIBBS!!!!!

[pickettt]

Originally Posted by BNA/LION

I Love San Diego, CA! Things change and California is a leader in change. I'm not disillusioned with some of the negative things happening in the State but there are so many good things that outweigh them. IMHO No question it is expensive here and it's not for everyone but we're staying! The California Dream is Still Alive For Us!

Find better weather on Earth than San Diego, California,….. I’ll wait.

[M45]

Originally Posted by Mifune

Gavin Newsom invites world's homeless to California


California Gov. Gavin Newsom pledged to house and feed the world’s homeless population this week during a whirlwind “Comeback California” tour that is designed to stave off a September recall by angry voters.

Where is he “housing” them?

Last time I checked most of them are living in parks and green spaces, starting wildfires.

[epicurus]

Originally Posted by Al1969

x2.

x3

[austinp]

Originally Posted by pickettt

Find better weather on Earth than San Diego, California,….. I’ll wait.

Facts. That ocean water is too cold tho.


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[SDGT3]

Originally Posted by M45

Where is he “housing” them?

Last time I checked most of them are living in parks and green spaces, starting wildfires.

CA bought motels and hotels at X3 what they were really worth and have been housing them there. The state is also going straight through Marriott and paying them to house the homeless.

[TNT009]

Originally Posted by pickettt

Find better weather on Earth than San Diego, California,….. I’ll wait.

You'll be waiting a long time!!! Ill take the occasional earthquake and we got best fire fighters to battle wildfires!

[pickettt]

Originally Posted by DLRIDES

Ill take this a step further (quite confidently):

IMO, 70-80% of US citizens lacks the civics knowledge to vote.

A recent study found that only 26% of registered voters could name the three branches of the federal government, and far less knew their functions. Knowledge of resident state governments were more dismal !

There is no good ending to this cycle …………………………….

Originally Posted by SDGT3

CA bought motels and hotels at X3 what they were really worth and have been housing them there. The state is also going straight through Marriott and paying them to house the homeless.

Case in point; I don’t recall voting on that.

[enjoythemusic]

We need to start a GoFundMe for Paul...

...ya know, so he can move to somewhere nice.

Help a brother out.

[shredder]

All I know is when I move from CA to your state, you can rest assured I wont be bringing California politics with me.

I agree with the OP, CA has transformed for the worst in the last 20 years.

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

We need to start a GoFundMe for Paul...

...ya know, so he can move to somewhere nice.

Help a brother out.

[dba]

Originally Posted by jpeezy14@hotmail.com

Edit: Also, it isn't all blue skies and apple pie everywhere else...people will always have something to complain about; at least we'll be complaining about it in paradise.

This exactly. The grass may be greener on the other side, but it still needs mowing.

[Moondoggy]

Ok so I do not quite understand.

Let us accept CA is expensive, dangerous, filthy, poor infrastructure....etc etc and people are migrating elsewhere.
However real estate values are crazy because of demand, surely for every person/party leaving there are more wanting to live there (demand>supply), otherwise values decline, homes stay vacant etc etc. That appears not to be happening

[Goin2drt]

Originally Posted by Moondoggy

Ok so I do not quite understand.

Let us accept CA is expensive, dangerous, filthy, poor infrastructure....etc etc and people are migrating elsewhere.
However real estate values are crazy because of demand, surely for every person/party leaving there are more wanting to live there (demand>supply), otherwise values decline, homes stay vacant etc etc. That appears not to be happening

Or you could do some research and realize many of these properties are being bought up by the Chinese who never step a foot in them. Our house in Yorba Linda was one of them. Paid over a million in cash and the house looked like a $150k crack house in Fontana after one year. Sure they may rent them out to those folks that want to live there.

I find the arrogance and ignorance of the “California lifers” to be so funny. They have to sell themselves through all the negatives for the one positive to live there and that is the weather. Get out and explore folks. Luckily for work I got to travel all over the country and see, meet and talk to other folks that actually live outside of California. They are happy, stress free and live a great life. Having seasons is not a bad thing. Ca isn’t the only place that pays well and has plenty of jobs. You all keep telling yourselves it is the only place to live and work. We actually like it that way so the crazy ass people that created that disaster stay right there and don’t come voting and messing up the rest of the country.

By the way anywhere in the Carribean is better weather than San Diego. San Diego isn’t that nice in the winter.

[Uggi]

I've never been to California but whenever I see it referred to I can't help but think of Los Santos from Grand Theft Auto V. I imagine it's just like that.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Moondoggy

Ok so I do not quite understand.

Let us accept CA is expensive, dangerous, filthy, poor infrastructure....etc etc and people are migrating elsewhere.
However real estate values are crazy because of demand, surely for every person/party leaving there are more wanting to live there (demand>supply), otherwise values decline, homes stay vacant etc etc. That appears not to be happening

Where there is a seller there is a buyer

[Speedbird-1]

Originally Posted by dba

This exactly. The grass may be greener on the other side, but it still needs mowing.

Originally Posted by pickettt

Find better weather on Earth than San Diego, California,….. I’ll wait.

Canary Islands.

[Brew]

Newsflash!

It was always a "dream." Instead of lamenting the loss of a fictitious dream, just keep rowing, gently . . . .

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Speedbird-1

Canary Islands.

I’ve often wondered if I could actually live on an island. Sounds idyllic, but I think I’d become bored

[Chester01]

I read that article and that’s not to mention the other problems….massive fires, intense heat, etc… times they are a changing.

[AzPaul]

Originally Posted by brandrea

I’ve often wondered if I could actually live on an island. Sounds idyllic, but I think I’d become bored

The key is bringing Ginger and Mary Ann with you.

[gnuyork]

Originally Posted by Brew

If I get stuck behind the same traffic light for two cycles, I'm in intolerable traffic. You folks can have your various cities and whatnot. I'll stay here in god's country, with an occasional visit to the Adirondacks.

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by Goin2drt

I find the arrogance and ignorance of the “California lifers” to be so funny. They have to sell themselves through all the negatives for the one positive to live there and that is the weather. .

I wonder why people even care so much where and why we love it here.

Seems to be a lot of emotion or an agenda going on here.

Like I said, people that leave here always seem to act like jilted lovers.

Live where you like and are happy.

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by Chester01

I read that article and that’s not to mention the other problems….massive fires, intense heat, etc… times they are a changing.

Everywhere.