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Old 16 July 2018, 11:13 AM   #1
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Date won’t change brand new subC

So I purchased a brand BNIB SubC date yesterday at my AD. Today at around 9:03 I realized the date was a day ahead. When I pulled the crown to second position I would just wind and the date would stick. It would get almost half way and not advance. I then brought the hour hand backward a few hours and it ended up working. This has never been an issue for any of my other subs, unless I didn’t notice? Any insight?

Kinda losing it lol


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Old 16 July 2018, 11:18 AM   #2
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you have to play with it sometimes in the 1 and 2 crown position so it catches.

every movement has its own characteristics.

you've got 5 years to let it break.
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Old 16 July 2018, 11:19 AM   #3
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you have to play with it sometimes in the 1 and 2 crown position so it catches.



every movement has its own characteristics.



you've got 5 years to let it break.


The date wheel had movement. But wouldn’t turn over.


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Old 16 July 2018, 11:23 AM   #4
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The date wheel had movement. But wouldn’t turn over.


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something between the crown and movement wasn't catching.

it happens.

monitor it and use your warranty if it doesn't settle.

also, only go clockwise for date chages. i know many will say it doesn't matter anymore but its designed to go forwards, so, i go forwards.
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Old 16 July 2018, 11:26 AM   #5
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With most auto watches the date has to be seat at particular time of the day to limit damage to the movement. Also with every watch I’ve had it’s generally recommended to set the time to 6 o’clock first when adjusting the date. Have you done that correctly i.e. set to 6 then advance the hands through the 24hr cycle to see if the date changes?
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Old 16 July 2018, 11:28 AM   #6
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With most auto watches the date has to be seat at particular time of the day to limit damage to the movement. Also with every watch I’ve had it’s generally recommended to set the time to 6 o’clock first when adjusting the date. Have you done that correctly i.e. set to 6 then advance the hands through the 24hr cycle to see if the date changes?


I’ve read to set it to 7 and change to previous date. And turn hands counter clockwise to see if the date changes. It does change over when hitting 12:00 I believe. I’m a little worried to try it again


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Old 16 July 2018, 11:30 AM   #7
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You've got a warranty - keep trying
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Old 16 July 2018, 11:34 AM   #8
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With most auto watches the date has to be seat at particular time of the day to limit damage to the movement. Also with every watch I’ve had it’s generally recommended to set the time to 6 o’clock first when adjusting the date. Have you done that correctly i.e. set to 6 then advance the hands through the 24hr cycle to see if the date changes?
This isn't true of (modern) Rolex movements, which have an instant date roll-over.
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Old 16 July 2018, 11:37 AM   #9
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Wind the minute hand around clockwise a few days worth of rotations and let it flip the date over that way. Stop at tonight's time (say, 9:45PM) and see if it flips over on its own around midnight.

If it does flip on its own, leave it overnight and set the correct date the next morning using the date position on the crown. If the crown sets the date as expected then it should be fine. If not then take it back to your AD and show them.
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Old 16 July 2018, 12:04 PM   #10
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Classic rookie mistake.

Do not set your date between 10pm and 2am.

6 is the safe zone.

I have seen many new customers including family members damaging their Rolex because of improper date changes.
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Old 16 July 2018, 12:05 PM   #11
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Classic rookie mistake.

Do not set your date between 10pm and 2am.

6 is the safe zone.

I have seen many new customers including family members damaging their Rolex because of improper date changes.


But it wasn’t between 10pm and 2am

And with the modern rolexes this no longer applies


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Old 16 July 2018, 12:07 PM   #12
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I though the modern Rolex watches were immune from that issue. I know that the Sky D in particular is immune. I did believe that all the line was at the current time. I'm also going to add snidely that no Sub C ever keeps the date accurately; one needs a Sub C Date for that.
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Old 16 July 2018, 12:12 PM   #13
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I though the modern Rolex watches were immune from that issue. I know that the Sky D in particular is immune. I did believe that all the line was at the current time. I'm also going to add snidely that no Sub C ever keeps the date accurately; one needs a Sub C Date for that.


Sorry I should have said my SubC date lol. 116610


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Old 16 July 2018, 02:20 PM   #14
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First off, congrats on the 116610...nice watch.
Second, newer Rolex movements with instantaneous date change mechanism are not effected by manual date change at any time.
Lastly, your case sounds like an oiling issue. My Explorer II had this problem when I got it new a couple years back. The date would flip half way only regardless whether the date was advanced by manually advancing the GMT hand, or time advancing through midnight. Sent it in to RSC and it was taken care of and it never reoccurred.



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Old 16 July 2018, 03:42 PM   #15
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Monitor the date change, and if the problem persists, take it back.

Some time ago, there was a thread about the date not displaying completely. The owner said that he played with the date, for every day of the month, back and forth, until it was displaying completely with every change. Once the date changed completely, he was moving to the next date. Don't know how much it would help in this case, but since you've said that going backwards made the date unstuck, who knows.

Best of luck
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Old 16 July 2018, 03:59 PM   #16
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Classic rookie mistake.

Do not set your date between 10pm and 2am.

6 is the safe zone.

I have seen many new customers including family members damaging their Rolex because of improper date changes.
Classic "Pro" mistake - - calling others on TRF "rookies" IMO - we are all learning here.
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Old 16 July 2018, 04:05 PM   #17
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Classic "Pro" mistake - - calling others on TRF "rookies" IMO - we are all learning here.
Especially when the information you are giving is wrong.

Perhaps zion_rasta will educate himself before posting misinformation.
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Old 16 July 2018, 04:08 PM   #18
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I though the modern Rolex watches were immune from that issue. I know that the Sky D in particular is immune. I did believe that all the line was at the current time. I'm also going to add snidely that no Sub C ever keeps the date accurately; one needs a Sub C Date for that.
They are immune, you can't break it by quick-setting it close to 00:00.
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Classic "Pro" mistake - - calling others on TRF "rookies" IMO - we are all learning here.
Don't bite. He was wrong anyway.

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Old 17 July 2018, 12:00 AM   #20
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With most auto watches the date has to be seat at particular time of the day to limit damage to the movement. Also with every watch I’ve had it’s generally recommended to set the time to 6 o’clock first when adjusting the date. Have you done that correctly i.e. set to 6 then advance the hands through the 24hr cycle to see if the date changes?
These things do not apply to Rolex.
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Old 17 July 2018, 01:00 AM   #21
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Classic "Pro" mistake - - calling others on TRF "rookies" IMO - we are all learning here.
+1 Very true we are all just learning well said!
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Old 17 July 2018, 01:11 AM   #22
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I've only been on this forum for a short time, and only bought my first Rolex (SubC) about a month ago, but I've read a lot of technical posts here, and I have found that when Bas eventually posts in response, that might as well be the end of the thread
Besides, if there was a particular "way" to set the date on a new Rolex, wouldn't it state as such in the little manual that comes with the watch?
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Old 17 July 2018, 01:23 AM   #23
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Its not wrong.
Dont change date between 20:00 hours and 02:00 hours otherwise you would potentialy break the movement. Its a common 31xx issue.

Return it to Rolex they will get it fixed. It usually only a tiny shim washer under the date gear teeth.

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Old 17 July 2018, 01:36 AM   #24
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Regarding 31xx movements, I'm not so sure about the change date system time so just in case, I never do it between 20h to 2h. Even if it's ok, I have nothing to lose waiting to be out of this gap.

Even my Navitimer 01 which is specifically advertised having a new system totally imune to the date change, I don't do it between 20h - 2h.

I believe the older we get, more annoying non logical habits we develop. Maybe too cautious....
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Old 17 July 2018, 02:45 AM   #25
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Old 17 July 2018, 03:03 AM   #26
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As stated several times already:

There is no restriction on when you can set the date of your Rolex, those stating certain times to do so are wrong.


Sometimes it is finicky to click into the date change mode, but if you know that you are in the quick-set detent and have issues, have it looked at.
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Old 17 July 2018, 05:18 AM   #27
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There are 2 ways you might damage the movement. Changing date between the desribed hours and rotating the hands anticlockwise after date change at 12am.

Again this just an advise based on watchmakers review not from Rolex. It wouldnt admit it anyways.

Ofcourse Rolex can fix it and any good watchmaker can do. It is not a hard fix. But it will need time to send the watch which is annoying.

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I am not sure the anti-clockwise thing applies to Rolex either. Done it may times on my 1680 and 1675 and all was fine


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There are 2 ways you might damage the movement. Changing date between the desribed hours and rotating the hands anticlockwise after date change at 12am.

Again this just an advise based on watchmakers review not from Rolex. It wouldnt admit it anyways.

Ofcourse Rolex can fix it and any good watchmaker can do. It is not a hard fix. But it will need time to send the watch which is annoying.

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