Buying Pre Owned With Box & papers - No Hang tag

[kruplyn143]

Am planning to buy a Patek Pre owned with box, papers, stylus and NO hang tag. Will No hang tag matter when I decide to sell in the future? Thanks.

[soundserious]

No won’t make a significant difference imo.

[turborolex]

Doesn’t make a difference


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[kruplyn143]

Thank you for your inputs.

[kruplyn143]

The watch has no cardboard outer box also . The box comes with the Patek cloth. Will it make a difference with no outer cardboard box aside from no hang tag?

[watchtabs]

Originally Posted by engpa

The watch has no cardboard outer box also . The box comes with the Patek cloth. Will it make a difference with no outer cardboard box aside from no hang tag?

Nope.

[turborolex]

If you want, you can buy the outer cardboard box from eBay. I wouldn’t bother really.


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[kruplyn143]

Thank you very much.

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by engpa

Am planning to buy a Patek Pre owned with box, papers, stylus and NO hang tag. Will No hang tag matter when I decide to sell in the future? Thanks.

What’s a PP hang tag, never had one on any of my PP’s.

[HL65]

Originally Posted by engpa

The watch has no cardboard outer box also . The box comes with the Patek cloth. Will it make a difference with no outer cardboard box aside from no hang tag?

No for either.

[SW1]

You buying a lot of watches preowned with papers a box and no hangtags...a Patek here and i am sure a thread in Rolex section
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=610703

[soundserious]

Originally Posted by Russell996

What’s a PP hang tag, never had one on any of my PP’s.

Really?

[jon_jon]

The Patek hang tag has the watch reference and movement numbers printed on it. However similar to a Rolex hang tag, most ADs don't always pass it on to the watch purchaser.

[tyler1980]

is it really a hang tag if it never actually hung on anything? All mine are still wrapped in plastic

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by SW1

You buying a lot of watches preowned with papers a box and no hangtags...a Patek here and i am sure a thread in Rolex section
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=610703

weird

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by soundserious

Really?

No, pieces have always been ordered in for me, I/my wife have opened all of them (5 pieces) with the AD (one at the Geneva Salon after being taken by the AD) and never even seen a tag with my pieces! I have the brown boxes for 5 pieces and had to slit the brown box sticker to open them.
I’ve seen them in the AD window where the dealer takes the sticker off the brown box and puts it on a dealer Patek tag but I didn’t think these don’t came with the piece, they are dealer tags for window displayed pieces - is this what everyone is talking about?

[SW1]

All mine came with hangtags and its sealed along with the pusher and watch

[soundserious]

Originally Posted by Russell996

No, pieces have always been ordered in for me, I/my wife have opened all of them (5 pieces) with the AD (one at the Geneva Salon after being taken by the AD) and never even seen a tag with my pieces! I have the brown boxes for 5 pieces and had to slit the brown box sticker to open them.
I’ve seen them in the AD window where the dealer takes the sticker off the brown box and puts it on a dealer Patek tag but I didn’t think these don’t came with the piece, they are dealer tags for window displayed pieces - is this what everyone is talking about?

Not really sure but all my watches have had small brown or maroon plastic “hangtags” with the model number and I believe the serial number. Similar to Rolex.

[Oryx]

Originally Posted by Russell996

No, pieces have always been ordered in for me, I/my wife have opened all of them (5 pieces) with the AD (one at the Geneva Salon after being taken by the AD) and never even seen a tag with my pieces! I have the brown boxes for 5 pieces and had to slit the brown box sticker to open them.
I’ve seen them in the AD window where the dealer takes the sticker off the brown box and puts it on a dealer Patek tag but I didn’t think these don’t came with the piece, they are dealer tags for window displayed pieces - is this what everyone is talking about?

The swing tags are in the sealed transport box along with the box. Either as a separate part of the packaging (for watches with a leather strap) that the watch is in (small extension to the packaging) or in a separate compartment in the white foam packaging for Nautilus models.

PP boutiques do not met customers take these away however I think ADs generally do leave them with the watch

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by Oryx

The swing tags are in the sealed transport box along with the box. Either as a separate part of the packaging (for watches with a leather strap) that the watch is in (small extension to the packaging) or in a separate compartment in the white foam packaging for Nautilus models.

PP boutiques do not met customers take these away however I think ADs generally do leave them with the watch

I will have to look in my brown boxes again - as I say I have personally sliced open a number of boxes (5131R and 5711P) with a scalpel (to preserve) the box and not aware I had hang tags included.

[Oryx]

My AD kept the swing tag for my 5131R but I think I have it for my 5976G

For all “regular” refs I defo have them

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Russell996

I will have to look in my brown boxes again - as I say I have personally sliced open a number of boxes (5131R and 5711P) with a scalpel (to preserve) the box and not aware I had hang tags included.

The brown boxes are far more valuable than a hang tag


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[HL65]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

The brown boxes are far more valuable than a hang tag


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[MCMartiny]

Swing tag, brown shipping box etc? I am not sure why people have started obsessing about these things lately. Unless you plan to flip the watch at a later date as un-worn NOS, I don't think these things really matter for resale value (nor for enjoyment of the watch). Seems this focus on these small peripheral things have become the latest WIS OCD syndrome. What is the next thing? Trying to get the small pieces of clear plastic that is pealed off the watch / clasp when you buy it?

In my case even the very nicely done Patek wood boxes (and Patek pushers) just end up stored at the back of my cupboard. Now, I know that the wood box supposedly helps resale value as you can sell as a complete set together with the Certificate of Origin. However, if you buy watches to wear and enjoy them then the only thing that really has practical value is something like the Patek leather travel roll (my AD told me that this is now included with all new Pateks which if true is a great development)

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by MCMartiny

Swing tag, brown shipping box etc? I am not sure why people have started obsessing about these things lately. Unless you plan to flip the watch at a later date as un-worn NOS, I don't think these things really matter for resale value (nor for enjoyment of the watch). Seems this focus on these small peripheral things have become the latest WIS OCD syndrome. What is the next thing? Trying to get the small pieces of clear plastic that is pealed of the watch / clasp when you buy it?

In my case even the very nicely done Patek wood boxes (and Patek pushers) just end up stored at the back of my cupboard. Now, I know that the wood box supposedly helps resale value as you can sell as a complete set together with the Certificate of Origin. However, if you buy watches to wear and enjoy them then the only thing that really has practical value is something like the Patek leather travel roll (my AD told me that this is now included with all new Pateks which if true is a great development)

personally i just like to have all the stuff even though i dont need it. My AD accidentally gave me a DJ booklet with my BLRO. I went back to get the correct book. Why? I have no idea as im never going to even open it. So none of it makes sense, but it made me feel better knowing i had a correct full set.

[jrs146]

Originally Posted by MCMartiny

Swing tag, brown shipping box etc? I am not sure why people have started obsessing about these things lately. Unless you plan to flip the watch at a later date as un-worn NOS, I don't think these things really matter for resale value (nor for enjoyment of the watch). Seems this focus on these small peripheral things have become the latest WIS OCD syndrome. What is the next thing? Trying to get the small pieces of clear plastic that is pealed of the watch / clasp when you buy it?



In my case even the very nicely done Patek wood boxes (and Patek pushers) just end up stored at the back of my cupboard. Now, I know that the wood box supposedly helps resale value as you can sell as a complete set together with the Certificate of Origin. However, if you buy watches to wear and enjoy them then the only thing that really has practical value is something like the Patek leather travel roll (my AD told me that this is now included with all new Pateks which if true is a great development)

I agree it’s gotten a little out of hand. But it is clear that from a resale perspective people like complete sets. Personally, I wouldn’t consider the hang tag critical like I would the box/papers. But nonetheless others may feel differently. I do prefer to buy new and I’d expect everything that comes with the watch but I’m not obsessing over the fact that my AD won’t give out the brow boxes.

Now a travel roll would be nice though. I heard about this on the forum. Didn’t get one with my purchase last month, but again... I’m not stressing about it.


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[tng11]

I couldn't care less about the hangtag, it's simply a "nice to have".

When my 5990 arrived I noticed that the hangtag was missing - the AD had unsealed the watch and shipped it to me. But then I also noticed the stylus was missing, which I was not okay with. Turns out the AD had left both the hangtag and stylus in the plastic bag when they unsealed the watch, and thankfully it was still sitting at the AD in the brown box. I think I was lucky I caught it before garbage day...

[SW1]

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[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by SW1

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that is awesome. My tally remains normal full sets w/o cardboard shipping boxes and zero... yes Zero swag minus one PP loupe.

[tng11]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

that is awesome. My tally remains normal full sets w/o cardboard shipping boxes and zero... yes Zero swag minus one PP loupe.

Wow... Even a pleb like me has the loupe, three travel cases (one service, two Phase de Lune), gloves and a golf umbrella!