so sick of the shortage!!

[Polarexplorerii]

Guys i am so pissed and sick of the bull!! I have been trying to get a Sub date from a AD since last Nov and I can’t even get on a "waitlist”!! I don’t wanna buy a pre owned or pay over retail.. Hell i even tried to buy a Tudor BB58 and i can’t even do that!! so tired

[YYR]

There are a lot of nice watches that there is no waitlist for

[N2theCAPE]

I feel you brother, you're not the only one in that boat.

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[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Polarexplorerii

Guys i am so pissed and sick of the bullshit!! I have been trying to get a Sub date from a AD since last Nov and I can’t even get on a "waitlist”!! I don’t wanna buy a pre owned or pay over retail.. Hell i even tried to buy a Tudor BB58 and i can’t even do that!! so tired

How much is the premium? It may be worth considering.

[peterpl]

A sub date is not much above MSRP from a gray dealer or classifieds on here.

If you buy individual you could prob get it at MSRP or below for mint.

Just pay the tiny premium if any if you want brand new

[donas]

To me, time is worth something. I'll pay more for something I want if I get it now versus waiting, especially months or years. Not trying to start a tax debate, but most sellers on TRF are not charging tax. Where I live, that is about $1000 for a sub, so pay over retail and still essentially break even.

[YYR]

I’m just curious why a sub date is the watch that you picked?

[DG123]

Originally Posted by Polarexplorerii

Guys i am so pissed and sick of the bull!! I have been trying to get a Sub date from a AD since last Nov and I can’t even get on a "waitlist”!! I don’t wanna buy a pre owned or pay over retail.. Hell i even tried to buy a Tudor BB58 and i can’t even do that!! so tired

Buy a Rolex that your AD has in stock and enjoy

[Triad900]

I was in a similar scenario, and I couldn’t justify paying more than retail. It took trips to 5 AD’s within 100 mile range but one did eventually come through. Ironically he had one in the safe and then got another one in so he didn’t want to sit on both and offered it up with no purchase history. Good luck and hoping you get the call.

[42itus]

To be real about it November is not long at all. You had the holidays, so you’re not getting any SS sport model around the holidays unless you’re really lucky or a VIP. And depending on where you live you probably lost some of March and all of April and May. And given the current situation I would say it’s still going to be dry for a while.
As others have said if you get one Grey and don’t pay tax then your not too far off of retail.
Keep waiting, buy grey, or look at a different brand. It might not be what you want to hear but that’s how it is.


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[Polarexplorerii]

Originally Posted by YYR

I’m just curious why a sub date is the watch that you picked?

we all have our grail watch.. this is one is mine as i am not a rich man

[Marcjvr]

Originally Posted by Polarexplorerii

Guys i am so pissed and sick of the bull!! I have been trying to get a Sub date from a AD since last Nov and I can’t even get on a "waitlist”!! I don’t wanna buy a pre owned or pay over retail.. Hell i even tried to buy a Tudor BB58 and i can’t even do that!! so tired

Why not just go Grey/preowned? Less than MSRP + tax

Life’s too short to keep banging your head against the wall




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[garyk]

I’m thinking about it too. I’ve never paid more than retail but I guess there’s always a first time for everything.

[aw9nineteen]

Originally Posted by DG123

Buy a Rolex that your AD has in stock and enjoy

Oh.. is that how it works lol?


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[Turb0wned]

Stop using the word shortage, there is no shortage. Unfortunately I’m sick of this game to. I’m sick of these ADs selling to the grey. I bought an OP for my (now ex) in Jan of last year, and just like that by some miracle, the AD was able to get me a Sub date a week later. It’s all a game that I wish would end.

[aw9nineteen]

Originally Posted by Turb0wned

Stop using the word shortage, there is no shortage. Unfortunately I’m sick of this game to. I’m sick of these ADs selling to the grey. I bought an OP for my (now ex) in Jan of last year, and just like that by some miracle, the AD was able to get me a Sub date a week later. It’s all a game that I wish would end.

Ut oh. Sounding like we may need an uprising. Seems to be what’s happening here anyways.


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[Mick006]

Originally Posted by donas

To me, time is worth something. I'll pay more for something I want if I get it now versus waiting, especially months or years. Not trying to start a tax debate, but most sellers on TRF are not charging tax. Where I live, that is about $1000 for a sub, so pay over retail and still essentially break even.

This^

[checkit44]

Agreed. This "waitlist" thing is a clown show.

[msdtra]

I paid 8-9% over (MSRP inc taxes in California) for NIB Unworn about 6 months ago.

These seems to be lowest differential for harder to find watch is sub c and ADs seem to be getting few in stock from post I have seen over last few days.

I just picked up my 2nd watch 121670 BLNR pre owned and love that watch too.

[ToyotaMoe]

Originally Posted by Polarexplorerii

Guys i am so pissed and sick of the bull!! I have been trying to get a Sub date from a AD since last Nov and I can’t even get on a "waitlist”!! I don’t wanna buy a pre owned or pay over retail.. Hell i even tried to buy a Tudor BB58 and i can’t even do that!! so tired

Do you have any purchase history with this particular AD? With the SS models, they are always going to sell to a previous client who wants that piece before some random person just walking in.

[az2598]

I think if you call around there's a decent chance you are able to source a sub date in a relatively reasonable timeframe - I was offered one within 3 months of putting my name down (albeit I had a little bit of purchase history)

Also grey is not a bad route, you are really not paying that much premium (if at all) after taxes

[iTreelex]

Go grey with a sub. It's worth the little bit over MSRP (I'm eating my own words here) cuz it's not worth brown nosing AD's. It'll be at your door tomorrow and you can enjoy it.

[aczaja10]

Originally Posted by iTreelex

Go grey with a sub. It's worth the little bit over MSRP (I'm eating my own words here) cuz it's not worth brown nosing AD's. It'll be at your door tomorrow and you can enjoy it.

I feel the same way. I tried to kiss some butt and offered to bring 2 friends with, one wanted a BLNR and another a day date. All of us ready to buy. Didn't work. I got the cold shoulder and I've purchased three from this AD. Ever since my prior sales guy left, it's been the same old game. I'm going grey on my next purchase without a doubt.

[ToyotaMoe]

Originally Posted by iTreelex

Go grey with a sub. It's worth the little bit over MSRP (I'm eating my own words here) cuz it's not worth brown nosing AD's. It'll be at your door tomorrow and you can enjoy it.

I agree. If it’s the watch you can’t stop thinking about just go grey. Your not even on the waitlist, so your not getting this watch anytime soon. Prices are extremely reasonable right now on the grey market.

[Ensign]

MSRP is so arbitrary.

If you want it that bad, what’s another few thousand?

[iTreelex]

Originally Posted by aczaja10

I feel the same way. I tried to kiss some butt and offered to bring 2 friends with, one wanted a BLNR and another a day date. All of us ready to buy. Didn't work. I got the cold shoulder and I've purchased three from this AD. Ever since my prior sales guy left, it's been the same old game. I'm going grey on my next purchase without a doubt.

Yea, I thought I'd play that game and it lasted a day haha.

Originally Posted by ToyotaMoe

I agree. If it’s the watch you can’t stop thinking about just go grey. Your not even on the waitlist, so your not getting this watch anytime soon. Prices are extremely reasonable right now on the grey market.

The sub prices are definitely reasonable. Pepsis, daytonas, and hulks are all shams on the grey

[Johnpierpontmorgan]

I go grey for all my sports models.



What’s wrong.


Just Couple thousands, if not wait



Rolex is a luxury brand, it maintains its supply constant and steady



It wouldn’t ramp up production because of few years anomaly for you

[horseShu]

People who really love the watch would've bought it already, with premium if they have to.

People who stick to this MSRP mantra sounds more like they are trying to cash in.

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[Johnpierpontmorgan]

Originally Posted by horseShu

People who really love the watch would've bought it already, with premium if they have to.

People who stick to this MSRP mantra sounds more like they are trying to cash in.

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Hard truths... I paid the premium for all my sports models.

Living in a city state, I have zero chance of hoping for AD unless I’m a big spender

[Binky1]

Originally Posted by Polarexplorerii

we all have our grail watch.. this is one is mine as i am not a rich man

Good for you. I bought my Sub Date, which I’m wearing at the mo, 30 years ago. It was supposed to be my one and only grail, I’m not rich either...this is just the start, my friend! As long as you keep it for the rest of your life and hand it down. 1000 quid extra really makes no difference to anything. Think about how much you have spent and lost on cars, holidays etc. This life is a one time event. Go on...treat yourself!